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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Hey Divya great post.

Thanks!

After a long time I like Jodha in yesterday. She was so eager to meet Jalal. Her restlessness her mind talks everything was portrayed beautifully. She accepted that she was being stubborn I think she will apologize to Jalal also.
I loved Jodha yesterday
The last scene was the best part. Their eyes, RT's smile , Pari's teary eyes. They didn't need any dialogues their expression said everything.
It was beautiful !

About Precap I m sure Jo will never beat him with that hunter. And I guess she will apologize to him. But I didn't like that he gave her a hunter to punish him.

Let's wait and watch on the precap

Come back soon Divya. Will miss u.

I think I will be back sooner then I would like! 😉

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony



Ha we debate so much but these tracks r needed more for jodha than jalal. People may argue tht jalal had done wrong or right but truth is benz agar nehi ati to jodha begum ko realize nehi hota ki jalal is more than friend nd agar MU nehi hota to bohut prem bhi nehi hota.


Very true but Jalal always has to pay the price 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sun29



am very late ...but nevertheless going to miss you and your post a lot ..even if i am not regular here ..but i do read your top 5 coz you tend to find positivism even in drag drab episodes...thank you so much and i hope even if not regularly, you do give us your top 5 whenever you can ...

may God bless you always...take care and see you around 🤗


Thanks so much! I will still be around- but just not with full-blown daily updates. And with each message I receive, my resolve is faltering,
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AbHer_neha


I know dear...it won't be ur last post. I m gonna comment on ur thread on today's episode also & I hope u do ur take 5 today also.😊

Awww so sweet

Yup...he wasn't Jalal the shehenshah...he was Jalal the lover/husband. I hope Jodha cries at his gesture & hugs him tight.😳

If he achieves that, then he used a smart tactic indeed! 😳


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: divyavm


Very true but Jalal always has to pay the price 😆


ya but wht to do. jalal is gr8.😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
My dear Divya,

I am not going to tell you to keep up this feel good routine if you cannot manage it. There are things in life more important than Jodha Akbar.

As for this episode, I am not going to gush about Jodha's awakening to her (designated as such now) prem for her husband. It was not convincing at all, the abrupt transition.

Remember that till the day before, at the Kali mandir, Jodha looked at peace with her world and completely settled in at Amer. There was no restlessness, no longing for Jalal, no looking back with despairing fondness to their good times together.

Some might object at this point, citing the tales of Badal's valour that Jodha recounts to her dadisaa. But that could have been about any brave warrior, say Kunwar Pratap, and Jodha would have displayed the same admiration for him as she does for Badal/Jalal. There is no tender emotion in that recital which is exclusive to Jalal. She does not reminisce about any of the gentle moments that Badal and Kajri shared, about Sheikh Salim Chisti's prophecy that she would be the Maryam-uz-Zamani, or about her feeding him with jowar rotis.

As for her longing for him, that is bahut door ki baat. When the unkempt Shehnaaz harangues her for the umpteenth time about her mohabbat, the Shahenshah, all that Jodha has to be say is that she does not know how one who is such a stranger to prem pardoned Shivani and Tejwant. (Of course when Bharmal flatly refuses to pardon Shivani, Jodha will not condemn him for not understanding Shivani's prem!)

Later, when she hears all the jayjaykaars for Jalal, there was nothing in her face that one would have expected from a woman who, despite being roothi huyi, is in love with her husband. There was no sudden surge of pride in the Shahenshah, whom she claims to love, for having taken such a generous and difficult decision, no fluttering of joy, nothing. She seemed totally ignorant about the difficulties he will face because of this brave move; there was not a word about that in her self talk.

All that she said : Shahenshah badalne lage hain... unka hriday jagne laga hai...( this about an emperor who has gone thru hell to find her and then pleaded with her to forgive him, whereas a true blue Rajvanshi husband would have left her where she was and barred her return!), did not hint at love of any kind.

For love is helpless and it cannot be denied, not even by the kind of guroor that stays in the satvaan aasmaan. It has a way of breaking thru all barriers, including those of pride and ahankaar, and finding its way towards the beloved. Love has no ego, and if there is an overweening ego, then there can be no love.

Nor does what Jodha's rooh says to Jalal in that dusty, leaf strewn maqbara, (presumably Jodha Begum's, for she was not buried with Akbar at Sikandra, something that tells its own tale).

When her rooh talks of her hriday having been touched (curiously enough, Jalal's rooh is silent, probably having nothing to say to this earth-shaking announcement after 450 years!), and her wanting to see him at once to give him badhai for his momentous decision, it sounds exactly like a schoolteacher patting her star student on the head for a brilliant score in an exam. Not like the desperate eagerness of a woman in love, though she will not acknowledge it, to be back with the man she loves.

So, till 2 days ago, it looked as if Jodha was now in a rush to get back to Agra and the Shahenshah because she feels her attempts to "reform" him have started succeeding, and she wants to be there to exult in what she sees as her success. It did NOT at all seem to be because she longed for him and has realized that she was adhoori without him. If that was what it was, we would have seen that day in and day out in Amer. We have not seen anything even remotely approaching it.

From this state of affairs to last night was an abrupt and inexplicable sea change . Now there was lajana, sharmana, aahein bharna, chaand ko niharna, neend udh jaana, in short the full works, as prescribed in our Sanskrit classics, for a virahotkhandita nayika, a heroine separated from her beloved.

Why this drastic change all of a sudden, when even the pardon for Shivani + the teerthkar abolition only produced, on Jodha's way back from the Kali Mandir, the grudging comment Unka hriday jaagne laga hai? ( I am not going take Jodha apart on this meaningless and condescending comment, for Anne has done it very much better than I could on your last thread).

Why, because it has been decided that it is to be so. I have often said that this was how the Great Romance would arrive from Jodha's side, by the fiat of the CVs, and the putting up of a placard reading Aaj se Jodha Begum ko Shahenshah se bahut/atyadhik/ apaar prem ho gaya hai. That is it.

So you will excuse me if I do not rejoice in the new Jodha who will,presumably, not avail of Jalal's demand that she use the whip or whatever it is, on him.

As for me, I wish I could have got my hands on that object. I would have used it liberally on Jalal!

Not for being so overwhelmingly in love with Jodha, for he cannot help that. But rather for making such a public spectacle of himself, completely forgetting what he owes to his rank and the dignity that should be part of an emperor's make up. My Lashykanna will probably offer her standard excuse that he is only 22. But that will not wash. He was emperor at 13, and restraint and dignity in public should, by now,have been bred into his bones. But clearly they were not!

Au revoir, my dear Divya, and do put the time saved by not doing these posts and then responding to overlong comments like this one, to better use. As for me, I am practically off this forum already, and now that you are departing too, I have one less reason to even look in here. I too will put the time I will thus save to good use!

Shyamala Aunty


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Posted: 11 years ago
well aunty, i think CVs should have given sum more scenes to jodha before her return. her part of the story should have been shown before she returns. i can understand she was hurt. but why??? just bcoz her self-respect was hurt?? no bcoz she loves tht guy & thts why she is more hurt. so a scene where jodha confesses & cries tht she is hurt bcoz she loves him, even if its in private would have made things appropriate. the term love was more imp. which the CVs missed out.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Well,Munni, this is but one of a long list of key things the CVs have left out. So we are forced to take the characters as they are, are we not?

Which is, in Jodha's case, worse than unbelievable. I am by now tired of this force-fed, switch on love affair. Last night, the discrepancy in the reactions of Jalal and Jodha to each other was glaring, except perhaps in the scene when she does his aarti and then takes his hand.

It is going to proceed on similar lines, I expect,and as for last night's precap, we have yet to see if this embrace is any more convincing that the one in Jalal's daydream when, as someone wrote, a plane could have passed between them!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: munnirony

well aunty, i think CVs should have given sum more scenes to jodha before her return. her part of the story should have been shown before she returns. i can understand she was hurt. but why??? just bcoz her self-respect was hurt?? no bcoz she loves tht guy & thts why she is more hurt. so a scene where jodha confesses & cries tht she is hurt bcoz she loves him, even if its in private would have made things appropriate. the term love was more imp. which the CVs missed out.

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Posted: 11 years ago
shyamala, their hug was thandi..lets see how it comes up tomorrow..but i have minimal hopes!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg

shyamala, their hug was thandi..lets see how it comes up tomorrow..but i have minimal hopes!


But I have high hopes 😳...things seem to have turned around in the last 3-4 epis...script wise, acting wise, dierection wise...let's hope "hug wise" also 😆

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