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Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Parijatrocks

i love both Akdha...i cristicize/bash if i dont like their character... i cant be sweety sweety with the show all the time...i show my disagreement if i dont like it...

very well said ...super like
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepi04


Sindhu, I've read the first post and the first part of the second post so far, and as much as I respect everyone's view, I will repeat that I cannot agree 100% with every view that I respect 😊 I actually do understand exactly where they are coming from, but there are some points I'd like to raise (without dragging Jo into this).

1. Yes Jalal did doubt her time and time again - he is a Shahenshah, he had evidence before him which lead to him doubting Jo. If he held blind faith over her and didn't doubt her, he would have failed as a Shahenshah. Someone once raised the point that during FP track, when Jalal was looking for the conspirator, his did not even spare his own mother, he did doubt her that maybe she was conspiring against Jo, so his doubts have always been justified and logical. What makes his character more commendable are his sincere apologies and humility, that he has always accepted his mistakes.

2. During the dhakka scene, Jalal also knew that his growing affection and love for her gave her the power to hurt him, but that didn't stop him from trusting her

3. Someone had raised the point that before the tirth kar, Jalal also made many reforms (from his heart) such as the slavery and child marriage. Well clearly Jalal was also listening to his heart before as well. And that faking his death, that too was done because he was listening to his heart, so I don't agree that Jo is NOT returning because of the tirth kar

4.. Jalal's unconditional love was discussed in Mandy's thread yesterday, so I won't touch this topic again


Yesss, well from the first post that I've read (as mentioned above) it's not demeaning Jalal, but still our views differ and that's fine, but at least I can respect that POV more for producing a more logical argument in Jo's favour.

But that's the point of argument, they argue a point, and if there's something I disagree with I will discuss it right? 😆

1. Yes Jo didn't ask Jalal to change, and he did change due to his love for her, but the reason many of us criticised this point was because we feel that Jo does not accept Jalal with all his good/bad traits. It seems that Jo will only love and accept him when he is on his best behaviour.

2. Jo going back due to the tirth kar, I've written about above

3. I agree that when Jo didn't love him before, his insults (before her suicide attempt only) made him think that her view of him was right. But what was her view? She hated him for the Kali Ma temple incident right? That was a misconception as shown during the Amer trip, Jalal didn't know about his soldier's actions, so because of her one misconception about him as a person, he has had to prove himself time and time again 😆 and because of her hatred for him, Jalal too initially thought his opinion about her was right, and she too proved him wrong. So that point is invalid in justifying Jo (in my POV of course)

4. Jodha's love for Jalal 🤔 I don't think I want to touch this topic. I'll just say that throughout the whole show we've been fed ghrina and kartavye dialogues, only recently we've gotten some prem dialogues, but that too without any previous scenes which actually showed us this adhik prem

Deepi, I am glad that atleast u visited that thread and came out with your POV's!
Many doest even touch posts in favour of jo!
@bold again this is what I am expecting in a discussion!
If you find a post logical you have to atleast respect its views, should answer it in a polite way!
Fine I too am respecting your views in the 3rd point! But...his insults for him continued even in the benazir track and almost reached its heights!
It was because of the misconception he hated him, was that her fault?
And her views about him had changed during the ajmer track itself but she was no. ready to express it! How can she? Her life was hell in the initial days of their marriage and its obvious that she took long time to accept him!
Also, I would recommend you to read Jodha's diary updates by Kshithi's! They will be awesome! She places her jo's place and writes her PoV! In fact I too was irritated by jo's rude behaviour to jalal after ajmer's trip but after reading her diary updates I changed my views! I have no intentions of changing your views but Just a suggestion!😃

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Topic has been reviewed and this is a strict warning for the TM and the members on the thread regarding moral molicing. IF allows everyone to express their opinions freely within the COC and respectable limitations.Members have freedom to express their own perspective, which may contradict someone else's POV. Kindly refrain from engaging in any moral policing and agree to disagree rather than getting into disputes which can be avoided if you adhere to your own POVs and let the other have their own.


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