Credit for Removing Tirthakar to Jodha? DT Note Pg 18 - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sweet24


For more details read Akbar-Birbal stories 😳

😆 I like sarcasm.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

do not bother abt serial

in long term world knows akbar did all that on his own not based on any begum adviceee
just think of long term another 500 years later no one will know this serail but they will know akbar and what he did not this reel akbar

Well, that certainly makes sense. And I agree that this serial isn't as important as who the real Akbar was. But in the present scenario, excuse the language - its a mighty pain in the bum - to be shown such stuff 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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First of all .. today i want to burst out my feelings ..
As an Emperor .. who ruled more than 50 years .. he is reliving on his begum ?? is he some idiot or brainless who had been running this kingdom ?? This is a serial .. and it has 80% fiction and 20% real history
and by that real history we know 20% means the names of the casts and the winning of Akbar ..

secondly .. Yes ! Akbar .. did gave more advantages to Hindus after the very first time he married a hindu woman .. things changed .. more advantages to Hindus ..

A new religion profounded by him Deen e ilahi .. it was consiting of both hindu and muslim religious things .. which had more advantages of hindus than the muslims .. this was not well accepted by the people..

That's my ..POV
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Mehak---

First of all .. today i want to burst out my feelings ..

As an Emperor .. who ruled more than 50 years .. he is reliving on his begum ?? is he some idiot or brainless who had been running this kingdom ?? This is a serial .. and it has 80% fiction and 20% real history
and by that real history we know 20% means the names of the casts and the winning of Akbar ..

secondly .. Yes ! Akbar .. did gave more advantages to Hindus after the very first time he married a hindu woman .. things changed .. more advantages to Hindus ..

A new religion profounded by him Deen e ilahi .. it was consiting of both hindu and muslim religious things .. which had more advantages of hindus than the muslims .. this was not well accepted by the people..

That's my ..POV

I agree with you. We are pretty much saying the same thing. I can understand the need to twist history but it is just NOT done to always show the main female lead to be a paragon of virtue and the male lead to be this dependent imbecile!
Akbar gave advantages because he understood Hindus more, he knew what needed to be done. It wasn't because Jodha constantly sat on his head giving him advice. He was a great King and in the hands of Ekta, he has been reduced to this lovesick dumb man. I really don't like this 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think we are jumping the gun here, how can we form an opinion based on a promo. Maybe it is just a dream, maybe Jalal has already taken the decision, he just wants to see Jodha's reaction.

There are many explanations. We need to watch the episode first and then comment.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

I think we are jumping the gun here, how can we form an opinion based on a promo. Maybe it is just a dream, maybe Jalal has already taken the decision, he just wants to see Jodha's reaction.

There are many explanations. We need to watch the episode first and then comment.

I know I am posting ahead of the episode. That is because in all the ways it shows that Jodha is paramount to the decision making of Akbar, when he should be having enough sense on his own to make the decisions for the betterment of the people. If its a flashback, my entire post stands. If its a dream, that again shows that Jalal is more worried about pleasing his Queen than he is about his own suffering people. Which is quite wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anamika.sharma

I agree with you. We are pretty much saying the same thing. I can understand the need to twist history but it is just NOT done to always show the main female lead to be a paragon of virtue and the male lead to be this dependent imbecile!

Akbar gave advantages because he understood Hindus more, he knew what needed to be done. It wasn't because Jodha constantly sat on his head giving him advice. He was a great King and in the hands of Ekta, he has been reduced to this lovesick dumb man. I really don't like this 🤢


HE ... too was a very clever man .. he knew if he had to reach up .. he have to won hearts of his kingdom majority being the hindus
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Todarmal, Tansen were with Akbar before marrying jodha so he appointed hindu's before only. And so were many other hindu nobels in his court. Todarmal was a clerk appoined by BK long back in office he was promoted as CFO by akbar later
Akbar abolished teerthkar because his childhood friend Rewa prince Ram Singh asked him to abolish it for his state people but Akbar abolished for entire sultanate. Akbar and Ram singh had gone to allahabad and kashi that is when he found about this tax and then abolished it.
Rajputs were more loyal to Akbar than his own mughal relatives. Hence he trsuted them more.
That does not mean he ignored his relatives he forgave them umpteeth times for attempts on his life and bbhagavat and stealing money from treasury, Sharifuddin he even forgave after attempting on salim what else should he do to please his mughal relatives and friends. Will anyone forgive if they attempt on his son a son he got after so much mannat no one yet Akbar forgave still we say he favoured hindus? If an hindu attempted on salim's life Akbar would have given him death instantly.
Din-e-illahi was a mixture of muslim/christian/jain and hindu religion ideas
Akbar allowed jesuit preists to teach his sons bible so he was not partial towards hindu religion only
I think Akbar was an enlightened soul who understood God is one we call him by diff names
Jehangir was a pious muslim but had picture of mother mary and jesus in his bedroom along with hindu Gods symbols. So did that make him less muslim??
Shah Jahan was orthodox muslim but celebrated Rakhi did that make him less orthodox??
Its the action that matters not the symbolism i feel. You can religiously follow your religion while respecting others too
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anamika.sharma

I know I am posting ahead of the episode. That is because in all the ways it shows that Jodha is paramount to the decision making of Akbar, when he should be having enough sense on his own to make the decisions for the betterment of the people. If its a flashback, my entire post stands. If its a dream, that again shows that Jalal is more worried about pleasing his Queen than he is about his own suffering people. Which is quite wrong.



I am inclined to think that Jalal does not dream about bhashans, his dreams about Jo are always romantic. If that is so, either he is talking to Jodha in person, or he is recounting a previous talk he had with her.

If it a previous talk then it means that Jalal does not always follow Jodha's advice because he has done nothing about the issue till date.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just advising someone does not make the other person weaker. Here we are shown how Jalal became Akbar. Initially he was influenced by people like Mamanga. Now it is shown how he reached from Jalal to Akbar. AGree he is a great emperor with lots of administartive skills. That does not mean he cannot take advise from others. Just because Jodha mentioned something that does not mean she is given credit
Edited by SindhuMenon - 11 years ago

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