Shivani found and pardoned as Jalal gives a lecture on love! - Page 7

Originally posted by: suguJA

hats off mansi 👏 👏 👏
u have actually made me clear of all doubts I had regarding the show n characters ... 👏
to say about predictions , if I think that defnly shenu has some connection with that surang person n that would be the next track after ja-Jo reconciliation n shivani marriage !!!
u have just described clearly in ur predictions 👏 ⭐️

it would be better if all the saazishes of maham is revealed to jalal 😳 , I m dreaming that sumthing like this happens when jallu s talking with SB rahim comes with that letter to SB n that old spoiler comes true abt dhakka paigam ( though I know I am expecting a lot from cvs , but I love that to happen soon in our show 😭 )
And also loved the precap 😉 , hope Jo return atleast by Friday 😭 😕

Originally posted by: riyya6

wow, I loved ur prediction & the post 👍🏼

high possibility of shehnaaz turning out or mistaken as jalal sister...

cant comment as I am yet to watch the epi, I always miss out discussion here as I normally watch the epi late ... trying to catch up but unable to do so... 😊...

But mansi still wanna add something from the WU, Jalal pardon shivani just like that seems unbelievable😲...im not saying shivani should not be forgiven but taking into account this all happen in 16th century the pardon is like whats happening in 21 st century...

Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2">Mansi here is my take on precap

<font color="#0000FF">CVs are butchering Jodha character nowadays. Agreed she was on holiday but her scenes could have been better not made her look like this! Like Radhika wrote I wonder if this is done deliberately? Don't even want to get into that. For me Paridhi is Jodha and till she is I watch JA. Even though I love Rajat as Jalal - I don't watch for him but I watch for Paridhi as Jodha.

In the precap Jalal is opening upto SB. Jalal seems to have only SB to talk with where he can talk about his feelings for Jodha openly. He can only trust her and know his words will not be twisted or thrown in his face.

I wish Jalal starts telling SB about the Sikri trip - he said Jodha just kept smiling - she was most happy on Sikri trip.

I wish Jalal opens up more on SB encouragement. Maybe seeing him little glum SB will reassure him that Jodha will be back, SB knows Jodha loves Jalal.

Maybe we might get fb of Jalal telling all to SB, how he found Jodha in Mathura and all that led to all that Jodha said to him.

I wish then SB will ask him - after hearing what all Jodha said - she can tell Jalal - Jodha did not say no to you cos she doubts your love. Jodha said no cos she fears what if you do this to her again.

That is what Jalal needs to hear - nobody told him yet what Jodha needed to hear. SB should tell him all Jodha needs from Jalal is reassurance that he will stand by her and he will never again throw her from his life.

This might be exactly what Jalal needs to hear - that Jodha loves him and she is NOT SHOWING GUROOR BUT RATHER FEAR.

SB can tell him Jodha is in love with him and can't bear the thought if she has to undergo this again. So all she needs is Jalal's reassurance.

Jalal might start seeing what he needs to do - maybe SB will also remind him how MA drove them apart and tell him he needs to reassure Jodha also, cos she must have faced a lot he does not even know about.

Maybe then SB might give the idea to Jalal - that he cannot go to Amer again and just keep waiting for Jodha to come back.

Jalal should invite Bharmal and get Shivani Tej married. That way Jodha will come to Agra soon. Jalal can tell all this to her face to face.

Jodha might be thinking of Sikri trip and maybe receives paigam from Maan Singh about what Jalal did to MA. So Jodha might decide to come back and hear about Shivani after coming back.

BTW - WHERE WAS MAAN SINGH YESTERDAY? He was in DEK for MA punishment but not there for his Shivani Buasa? Has he left for Amer to tell Jodha?

Blooper if he has not gone to Amer but was not shown in DEK!

This way Jalal will get a chance to woo Jodha again and she can show lot of nakhra and get him to assure her of his always standing by her.

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Originally posted by: ashpat

U know my first instinct when I read an update that Jodha was defending shivani, i was thinking I thought she was really mad at her so how come now she seems ok. But, then I realized that she is just trying to explain her sister's POV to her dad; it does not necessarily mean she is saying she was completely right. Personally, when my younger siblings does something wrong, i do reprimand them but when my parents get very mad then i do say to my parents that i am not taking my siblings' side but just trying to put their POV. so, i can relate to Jodha's stance as elder sister. Although, if I was Jodha and meet shivani now, then I would still reprimand her for not trying to confide in someone trustworthy rather than eloping. I don't believe in eloping.

It is obvious Jalal forgave Shivani because he understands love and is in love. But, I noticed two things that Tejwant and Shivani said which were apt and very applicable to Jalal's position and recent past. It's is bold below and explanation underneath it.

Tejwant replied, "What else could we do for we both were not as strong as you and Bharmal Ji who were arrayed against us. Would you all have agreed to our marriage even if we had come to you? If you think prem is an apraadh, then please punish me as you think fit."

Jalal then asked Shivani if she had something to say in her defence. "Yes Shahenshah" said Shivani. She too was so crystal clear in her words and spoke with so much conviction and no trace of fear or hesitation. "I first want to say sorry for embarrassing you and my father. But I feel our apraadh is just that we listened to our hearts. In fact, if in this condition I had married Hakim Ji, that would have been an apraadh. Because I cannot love anyone else as I love Tejwant. To be married to someone without loving him, and to be loving somebody other than one's husband is the biggest apraadh, which I did not want to commit. That's why I had to run away".

@bold-underlined: Tejwant really hit it right by saying that above. If it was old jalal, he would have but now he is in love.

@bold: Jalal just went through this @bold above. agreed, it was misunderstanding but all emotions he felt when he thought his wife loved someone else were real. it's one thing saying this and going through another thing so must have felt real connection.

ok, tehwant and shivani are forgiven but that does not mean Jalal should get them married in grand way. if it needs to be, then it should be bharmal. I still hope Jodha comes for Jalal not for shivani's wedding. it is different thing that jodha can say in her self-talk that she came back bec she is starting to trust jalal again because of the change in him that made him forgive shivani and tejwant (this is one way which could redeem her stance and show love and trust for jalal).

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Good one, Maddy! I am totally neutral about this Shivani affair. I don't care if she is punished or pardoned. That's what I wrote on Ela's thread also - that she had done nothing illegal. It was Jalal's prerogative to decide whether to punish her or not.

I just wish Jalal had asked her why she had agreed to the engagement if she didn't intend to marry HM. Then he could have seen she was innocent and then pardoned her. But I guess the CVs don't want to reveal MA's hand in this affair just yet (if at all).

Mansi, you are being so positive about the whole episode it's wonderful to see. Your enthusiasm is infectious. But when you say "many of us", then I had to laugh. Because on Ela's thread yesterday, everyone seemed to be disappointed with JJ's love speeches and Jalal's pardon of Shivani and Tej.

About the surang mystery, I have a feeling it may be Abdul in there. He was injured in Amer and soon after, he vanished from the show. MA may have told Jalal he had died and then secreted him here to use as a pawn when required. If there is any farman regarding Delhi takht, he may be aware of it, being so close to Jalal. The baby may be misleading. I don't think it's a real baby at all. It never reacts to MA. I think it's just a rag doll MA uses to threaten Abdul with - something like "if you don't tell me the truth, I will kill Jalal's children like this."

I want to add one more thing. Increasingly this Santa is reducing Jodha to a photo on the wall and a memory in the hearts of people close to her. I don't think the IPL is the only reason the track is dragging. He just doesn't want to give any footage to Paridhi. He is filling up episodes with Maham and Ruq. I won't be surprised if the Maham downfall track lasts for the next 6 months. And the Jodha separation track may take up another month. Even after Jo comes back, he may continue to give her insignificant scenes and let others hog the limelight. He is deliberately ruining Jo's character so that people start hating her. In this scenario, EK should decide who is more imp to her serial - Santa or Pari. We can't have a show where the heroine is reduced to a side character, with even Resham getting more footage.

Anyway it was a great review Mansi. I loved your prediction also.👏👏👏 Let's see what is in store for us. I am happy that at least the CVs showed that Jalal finally came to the conclusion that his past deeds were responsible for his present situation just as I had mentioned in a post a few days back.😊

Originally posted by: skanda12

Rdhika, I can imagine why you would laugh at my saying "may of us" because you may have seen a lot of contra posts last evening.

But I am going by the PMs and SMSs and What'sApps I get which were overwhelmingly appreciative of the mohabbat bhashan and Shivani pardon. So from my point of view there are a lot who seemed to be enjoying what they saw.

I get on average about 150 PMs or so post-episodes which then give me a gauge of public sentiment which then goes into my posts!

I am not able to get onto Ela's thread since at that time of the evening I have to help with my daughter's homework!

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi here is my take on precap

CVs are butchering Jodha character nowadays. Agreed she was on holiday but her scenes could have been better not made her look like this! Like Radhika wrote I wonder if this is done deliberately? Don't even want to get into that. For me Paridhi is Jodha and till she is I watch JA. Even though I love Rajat as Jalal - I don't watch for him but I watch for Paridhi as Jodha.

In the precap Jalal is opening upto SB. Jalal seems to have only SB to talk with where he can talk about his feelings for Jodha openly. He can only trust her and know his words will not be twisted or thrown in his face.

I wish Jalal starts telling SB about the Sikri trip - he said Jodha just kept smiling - she was most happy on Sikri trip.

I wish Jalal opens up more on SB encouragement. Maybe seeing him little glum SB will reassure him that Jodha will be back, SB knows Jodha loves Jalal.

Maybe we might get fb of Jalal telling all to SB, how he found Jodha in Mathura and all that led to all that Jodha said to him.

I wish then SB will ask him - after hearing what all Jodha said - she can tell Jalal - Jodha did not say no to you cos she doubts your love. Jodha said no cos she fears what if you do this to her again.

That is what Jalal needs to hear - nobody told him yet what Jodha needed to hear. SB should tell him all Jodha needs from Jalal is reassurance that he will stand by her and he will never again throw her from his life.

This might be exactly what Jalal needs to hear - that Jodha loves him and she is NOT SHOWING GUROOR BUT RATHER FEAR.

SB can tell him Jodha is in love with him and can't bear the thought if she has to undergo this again. So all she needs is Jalal's reassurance.

Jalal might start seeing what he needs to do - maybe SB will also remind him how MA drove them apart and tell him he needs to reassure Jodha also, cos she must have faced a lot he does not even know about.

Maybe then SB might give the idea to Jalal - that he cannot go to Amer again and just keep waiting for Jodha to come back.

Jalal should invite Bharmal and get Shivani Tej married. That way Jodha will come to Agra soon. Jalal can tell all this to her face to face.

Jodha might be thinking of Sikri trip and maybe receives paigam from Maan Singh about what Jalal did to MA. So Jodha might decide to come back and hear about Shivani after coming back.

BTW - WHERE WAS MAAN SINGH YESTERDAY? He was in DEK for MA punishment but not there for his Shivani Buasa? Has he left for Amer to tell Jodha?

Blooper if he has not gone to Amer but was not shown in DEK!

This way Jalal will get a chance to woo Jodha again and she can show lot of nakhra and get him to assure her of his always standing by her.

Originally posted by: indigodevi

Thank you for such a positive analysis. Was not reading any posts last few days, but got time today to read this beautiful post from you. Take care and keep on spreading this light of positive thoughts...