Shivani found and pardoned as Jalal gives a lecture on love! - Page 13

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes, I think the Creatives are afraid they will miss her smile with 64 teeth. So inch by inch they are driving her out. Tab tak my great grand daughter will be watching the serial! And I can come from heaven and ask "Maham abhi tak gayi hai ki nahin?"

Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Wonderful take Ayushi. 👏

well balanced review.

You are right. BM and MV are also somewhat responsible for Shivani's fiasco. They hid things from Jodha and Jalal, yet expected to take care of her.

Same is the case with Sujamal.

Instead of blaming people, we need to understand that sometimes circumstances make us do things which may not be acceptable to others, and we need to understand the difference between a crime and a mistake.

Crime is done deliberately. Mistakes happen without any malicious intent. We should never attribute to malice, what can be attributed to stupidity.

Well said.

Love

Kshithi

Originally posted by: skanda12

Ayushi, very impressive analysis 👏..👏. 👏 👏that point you have made is unique ... that Shivani has seen how short tempered Jalal was in Sukanya's marriage so how will she think of telling Jalal before about her wish to marry Tejwant?

To my knowledge nobody else has seen this point so as usual, hats off to you! You really have a knack of coming up with things that have escaped everyone else's notivce. You have a spectacular eye for detail! That is a true gift!

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Mansi,

Nice writeup. I liked the episode though i wanted the following to happen.


1. Reality Check for Bharmal

He calls Sujamal a gaddar repeatedly. Someone ask him what will he do when someone SNATCHES away his ancestral property and then forbids him from becoming the ruler which he is entitled to and is the rightful heir .?. Sujamal is fighting for HIS share. Then, what is wrong in this ? Atleast, he is NOT fighting a proxy war like (you know who ALL i am talking about😉). This man needs a reality check.!.

2. No complains about Jodha for defending Sujamal. I wish she also ask Bharmal the same question i asked above...!!!!...

When Jodha stood up to talk to her father, even I thought she will tell him that whatever Sujamal is doing today is the aftermath of Bharamal's doings by depriving him of his born right to annouce as teh crown prince. But later i thought being a sankari daughter hiow she can blame her own father directly which might cause him damage (mentally as well as image in public). If she could have blamed her father or gone against him, she would have opposed her marriage to Suryabanu in a strong way to advocate Sukanya's case or she would have opposed him immediately after he announced Bhagavan Das as teh crown price. If she has not done that then, how will she blame her father now? However she has planted teh seed of truth in her father's mind now, which will grow as a plant later.

3. I have NO problem in Jalal forgiving Shivani, but wanted the it in a better manner. 😊 They should have shown Jalal asking Shivani the reason of accepting the proposal in DEK when she had to run away finally and when she did NOT Love Hakim .?. This would have led to the exposure of MA. It is understandable that, Jalal knows the meaning of "Love" now, but some questions asked by him and SOME "(serious)advice😉" would have made his decision a BIT better, and made it look more from an Emperor's perspective. Still fine for me. When Hakim has NO qualms, who am i to ask.?. 😉

Yes, here even I felt Jalal was not his usual self, the Shehenshah during Shivani & Tejvanth trial. But when Tejvanth questioned him that had they told them (Jalal & Bharmal) about their love, would they have agrred and appreaciated their love, Jalal had no answer, as he clearly knew that they would have been punished or atleast Tej would have been punished for loving the princess. So there was no need for him to question Shivani, why agreed to get engaged to Mirza hakim, Now he understood she did that to stall teh sword from cuttuing the neck at that moment and pushed it by some more time, so taht they could plan their future action plan.

But there was no need for such elaborated love thesis at that moment. he could have postponed their punishment till Amer Kings arrival which would have made it better. This elaborate talks, he could have reserved to give emphasis to advocate Shivani, Tej's wedding to get the approval of Bharamal.

4. I have lost my hopes regarding Ruqs. MA did ask right questions to her. After many days, i found one act of MA, about which i could write +vely. 😃 Did you notice, even MA is getting more self-talks then Jalal or Jodha. Wonder is this the PH's UN-wavering Love for MA.?. 😕

What am i hearing.?. 😕
So, MA to take Ruqs along with herself in her downfall / read - "GLORY-Fall" (credit: Maddy).😆
And, even Ruqs earlier act of hiding Adham's entry in harem to be revealed.!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I don't know whether Adham's entry to Harem will be revealed now after so long and if yes, then who will do that? Maham or Ruqu. It was clear from teh begining that Maham will take ruqu alongwith her during her bad time as she have been making ruqu her partner in crime by hyping her audha by kindling the jealous for Jodha & also by increasing her insecurity of her position. Though Maham had not anticipated her downfall, she had been cautious to have Ruqu to fire her bullets against Jodha through Ruqu's shoulder, thinking if by chance any one finds her hand in meddling with Jodha, she could reveal Ruqu's name and wash hands by saying she did as ordered by BEK. So if Ruqu had not realized this, then she is the dumbest of a person and why on the earth she went to Maham to scream so that Maham can make some more plans to drown her. As she did in the previous case where she confessed her awareness of Rajvanshi in Harem, she could have asked for Jalal's permision as she need to confess some of her crime, which was a game in maham's plan. That way atleast she could have saved some grace of royal blood.

Let's see.

Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Well... ahem... inch by inch or tooth by tooth??? 😉

tum akeli nahi ho... me too will be with you in Ghost colony... 😆

Love

Kshithi

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LOL.. Nice Joke.. BTW ..will Javeda be of any use or she is just one of nonsense characters..but I feel she will be the one who will expose MA eventually.. ..I don't know ..why..but I have this feeling..what do you think.. may be thru some of her stupid acts..but she will be instrumental in MA downfall...

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes, I think the Creatives are afraid they will miss her smile with 64 teeth. So inch by inch they are driving her out. Tab tak my great grand daughter will be watching the serial! And I can come from heaven and ask "Maham abhi tak gayi hai ki nahin?"

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi here is my take on precap

CVs are butchering Jodha character nowadays. Agreed she was on holiday but her scenes could have been better not made her look like this! Like Radhika wrote I wonder if this is done deliberately? Don't even want to get into that. For me Paridhi is Jodha and till she is I watch JA. Even though I love Rajat as Jalal - I don't watch for him but I watch for Paridhi as Jodha.

In the precap Jalal is opening upto SB. Jalal seems to have only SB to talk with where he can talk about his feelings for Jodha openly. He can only trust her and know his words will not be twisted or thrown in his face.

I wish Jalal starts telling SB about the Sikri trip - he said Jodha just kept smiling - she was most happy on Sikri trip.

I wish Jalal opens up more on SB encouragement. Maybe seeing him little glum SB will reassure him that Jodha will be back, SB knows Jodha loves Jalal.

Maybe we might get fb of Jalal telling all to SB, how he found Jodha in Mathura and all that led to all that Jodha said to him.

I wish then SB will ask him - after hearing what all Jodha said - she can tell Jalal - Jodha did not say no to you cos she doubts your love. Jodha said no cos she fears what if you do this to her again.

That is what Jalal needs to hear - nobody told him yet what Jodha needed to hear. SB should tell him all Jodha needs from Jalal is reassurance that he will stand by her and he will never again throw her from his life.

This might be exactly what Jalal needs to hear - that Jodha loves him and she is NOT SHOWING GUROOR BUT RATHER FEAR.

SB can tell him Jodha is in love with him and can't bear the thought if she has to undergo this again. So all she needs is Jalal's reassurance.

Jalal might start seeing what he needs to do - maybe SB will also remind him how MA drove them apart and tell him he needs to reassure Jodha also, cos she must have faced a lot he does not even know about.

Maybe then SB might give the idea to Jalal - that he cannot go to Amer again and just keep waiting for Jodha to come back.

Jalal should invite Bharmal and get Shivani Tej married. That way Jodha will come to Agra soon. Jalal can tell all this to her face to face.

Jodha might be thinking of Sikri trip and maybe receives paigam from Maan Singh about what Jalal did to MA. So Jodha might decide to come back and hear about Shivani after coming back.

BTW - WHERE WAS MAAN SINGH YESTERDAY? He was in DEK for MA punishment but not there for his Shivani Buasa? Has he left for Amer to tell Jodha?

Blooper if he has not gone to Amer but was not shown in DEK!

This way Jalal will get a chance to woo Jodha again and she can show lot of nakhra and get him to assure her of his always standing by her.

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

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Thanks kshithi.

Agree, you, Kshithi, BM not checked once, What he is doing, What he saying, first, jodha marries, so critically condition, MV knows, jodha & jalal realtion not favourable, jone. & they are sending their second daughter, To AGRA, is Ragvancies not knows JALAL nature. ? so BM should , check himself, BM is saying, Shivani & Sujamal doing wrong. so clearity of vision, should be learn BM.

its very easy, saying, they did wrong, but as a KING or as A FATHER, reality check must.

Originally posted by: deejagi

Inch by inch, will you be kind enough to tell us how many inches her each tooth measures? So taht we can calculate the time of complete fall? 😉😉

And Kshithi, which parachute you are talking about? the parachute to fly down safely or the parachute OIl (coconut oil) to deep fry the Agra people including the royals? 😆

Originally posted by: deejagi

Inch by inch, will you be kind enough to tell us how many inches her each tooth measures? So taht we can calculate the time of complete fall? 😉😉

And Kshithi, which parachute you are talking about? the parachute to fly down safely or the parachute OIl (coconut oil) to deep fry the Agra people including the royals? 😆