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Posted: 11 years ago
It is interesting to note that Jodha needed an impetus to believe Jalal - and belief is not faith - and therein lies the difference between these two - Jalal has faith in his Love (and here I do not mean another person - as I have said, this is a most laughable premise that one person can change another) and hence he is not stagnant - he is moving on his chosen path.

No, this is not a balanced story yet - and the balance cannot be achieved as long as belief remains - the balance will happen only when Jodha's belief dissolves into faith - becoz faith is blind and hence it is Love.
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Posted: 11 years ago

unconditional LOVE = OBSESSION

excessive of every thing is bad ...ever GOD dont allow/teach his devotees to obsessised him blindly .. we should have faith on GOD but we cant think n pray or worship GOD over obsessively ... unless we have no dutt no other people in life ... here we have many obsession in our show where people do good in their LOVE n worst in their obsession

Rukayya love for Jalal

Rukayya obsession to be Jalal beloved n his queen consort

Jalal obsession for jodha

Jalal love for his people

Jodha obsession for HER EGOTISM and her POV

Jodha love for amer and her family

HB love for jodha

Atgha love for his shahansha

Maham obsession for her POV

Adham jealousy obsession for every thing Jalal have

javeda love for her MIL

Suja love for his foolishness

No matter what every one think BUT I can proof all these things which I wrote ACCORDING TO THIS SHOW...

love is pure but when it crosss its limits it will become wrong. and people do mistakes, blunder sins etc in their obsession...


rukayya love for jalal is the positiveness in her character which redeams her every time.and her obsession for her position in jalal life push her to wrong end

jodha always wins the game bec she has jalal on her side ... there are so many women in his life who are not lifeless they are real women not mere things but bec jalal has nothing to do with them thts why their emotion, their tears their wishes has no price ...

obsession make a person blind... he/she can not see any thing beyond in this obsession

jalal is obsessed with jodha

again i say ..in this whole track...jalal biggest mistake is he let her enter with sujamal tht hut in the middle of night...he let her go outside again n again under his nose ...he let that happen

in his obsession TO not fell down in jodha eyes... he forget tht it is his duty to not let this happen and his right to demand this Question from his wife as husband and queen subject as king...

this mistake let him make more mistakes... frustration kept making him mad ... as always extream authority on all relation nd in every stage of his life from childhood this was extremely imposible for him n he was keep pushing his boundries of patience ...and at last bomb did blast ..on tht monologue of jalal outburst it was all his blind obsession, his blind anger , his helplessness... if it was not feeling of helpless he can just punish her, arrest her, ignor her , assasin her any thing,,,,but long rant, crying, begging, shouting all showed his helpless obssession for this woman...

in one of his interview Rajat said abt Jalal character tht he remain calm n icy because he has extreme power... people shout where thing, people, situation are not in their control...but there is nothing jalal can not control ... now why he is doing these idiotic things which re not suiting his nature, his personality , his position...

Because of his extreme obsessed love for this one woman his helplessness...

he could stop josha to enter HUT

he could stop jodha to go outside

he can order soldiers n guards tht nobody can step out from fort in night

he can demand answer from jodha

he can took jodha from mathura order her to come back

he can order her to come back in amer

all these things are still in his power ...but he is bound to his newly found DIL...poor guy was so much better than before

Edited by smile.sara - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: smile.sara

rukayya love for jalal is the positiveness in her character which redeams her every time.and her obsession for her position in jalal life push her to wrong end

jodha always wins the game bec she has jalal on her side ... there are so many women in his life who are not lifeless they are real women not mere things but bec jalal has nothing to do with them thts why their emotion, their tears their wishes has no price ...

obsession make a person blind... he/she can not see any thing beyond in this obsession

jalal is obsessed with jodha

again i say ..in this whole track...jalal biggest mistake is he let her enter with sujamal tht hut in the middle of night...he let her go outside again n again under his nose ...he let that happen

in his obsession TO not fell down in jodha eyes... he forget tht it is his duty to not let this happen and his right to demand this Question from his wife as husband and queen subject as king...

this mistake let him make more mistakes... frustration kept making him mad ... as always extream authority on all relation nd in every stage of his life from childhood this was extremely imposible for him n he was keep pushing his boundries of patience ...and at last bomb did blast ..on tht monologue of jalal outburst it was all his blind obsession, his blind anger , his helplessness... if it was not feeling of helpless he can just punish her, arrest her, ignor her , assasin her any thing,,,,but long rant, crying, begging, shouting all showed his helpless obssession for this woman...

in one of his interview Rajat said abt Jalal character tht he remain calm n icy because he has extreme power... people shout where thing, people, situation are not in their control...but there is nothing jalal can not control ... now why he is doing these idiotic things which re not suiting his nature, his personality , his position...

Because of his extreme obsessed love for this one woman his helplessness...

he could stop josha to enter HUT

he could stop jodha to go outside

he can order soldiers n guards tht nobody can step out from fort in night

he can demand answer from jodha

he can took jodha from mathura order her to come back

he can order her to come back in amer

all these things are still in his power ...but he is bound to his newly found DIL...poor guy was so much better than before


Sara, I loooveee wat u wrote above. They are so true👏

Jalal shd have acted in a more shehenshah way rather than like an aam aadmi. The CVs portrayal of Jalal to show that even an emperor ll hv to beg wen it comes to love is downright 👎🏼

There is no such thing. Emperors cannot follow the same rules as normal citizen. They always have to maintain the decorum atleast wen they are outside.

As for Jalal's outburst, I am glad that atleast he did it in their bedroom and not infront of everyone. So, small mercies CVs, Thx for these😡

@ red above, did u mean to say Jalal was better before than now? If so, then yes, he was much much better before than now.

Serial shd have portrayed how Jalal has risen in love as an emperor and not fall in love and become an aam aadmi😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
sara, u have such valid points but this is ekta mayya ki leela jiske aage sab kuch dheela😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
Beautiful, Sara my dear! Impeccably analysed and your conclusions are all absolutely accurate and justified. That, I should add, does not bode well for this show! 😉 For starters, we can all look forward to seeing Jalal standing at the gates of the Agra fort, holding an aarti thali to welcome Jodha Begum, while Rahim provided the backup and Hamids-Salima the chorus!😉😉

I am still not at all well, with a migraine that is now in its fourth day plus a fever, or I would have written at greater length. So, I will just say, Very well done, kid!👏

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: smile.sara

unconditional LOVE = OBSESSION

excessive of every thing is bad ...ever GOD dont allow/teach his devotees to obsessised him blindly .. we should have faith on GOD but we cant think n pray or worship GOD over obsessively ... unless we have no dutt no other people in life ... here we have many obsession in our show where people do good in their LOVE n worst in their obsession

Rukayya love for Jalal

Rukayya obsession to be Jalal beloved n his queen consort

Jalal obsession for jodha

Jalal love for his people

Jodha obsession for HER EGOTISM and her POV

Jodha love for amer and her family

HB love for jodha

Atgha love for his shahansha

Maham obsession for her POV

Adham jealousy obsession for every thing Jalal have

javeda love for her MIL

Suja love for his foolishness

No matter what every one think BUT I can proof all these things which I wrote ACCORDING TO THIS SHOW...

love is pure but when it crosss its limits it will become wrong. and people do mistakes, blunder sins etc in their obsession...


rukayya love for jalal is the positiveness in her character which redeams her every time.and her obsession for her position in jalal life push her to wrong end

jodha always wins the game bec she has jalal on her side ... there are so many women in his life who are not lifeless they are real women not mere things but bec jalal has nothing to do with them thts why their emotion, their tears their wishes has no price ...

obsession make a person blind... he/she can not see any thing beyond in this obsession

jalal is obsessed with jodha

again i say ..in this whole track...jalal biggest mistake is he let her enter with sujamal tht hut in the middle of night...he let her go outside again n again under his nose ...he let that happen

in his obsession TO not fell down in jodha eyes... he forget tht it is his duty to not let this happen and his right to demand this Question from his wife as husband and queen subject as king...

this mistake let him make more mistakes... frustration kept making him mad ... as always extream authority on all relation nd in every stage of his life from childhood this was extremely imposible for him n he was keep pushing his boundries of patience ...and at last bomb did blast ..on tht monologue of jalal outburst it was all his blind obsession, his blind anger , his helplessness... if it was not feeling of helpless he can just punish her, arrest her, ignor her , assasin her any thing,,,,but long rant, crying, begging, shouting all showed his helpless obssession for this woman...

in one of his interview Rajat said abt Jalal character tht he remain calm n icy because he has extreme power... people shout where thing, people, situation are not in their control...but there is nothing jalal can not control ... now why he is doing these idiotic things which re not suiting his nature, his personality , his position...

Because of his extreme obsessed love for this one woman his helplessness...

he could stop josha to enter HUT

he could stop jodha to go outside

he can order soldiers n guards tht nobody can step out from fort in night

he can demand answer from jodha

he can took jodha from mathura order her to come back

he can order her to come back in amer

all these things are still in his power ...but he is bound to his newly found DIL...poor guy was so much better than before

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Posted: 11 years ago
As usual, Adiana my dear, lucid, and most convincing.

But I do not see Jodha's belief, such as it is, dissolving into anything as self-abnegating as faith. Not this Jodha.

I will read your wonderful Akbar posts as soon as my migraine, now in its 4th day, abates. I am so glad you decided to pull out of this quicksand of endless frustration with the leads, and decided to do something so hatke and positive. Sandhya, who did 2 excellent posts on Akbar's manifold achievements, would be the happiest of all to see this series.

I also note that you have joined me in the 40% boat, the only difference being that I never bothered to ask them why! I simply upped and left, for all practical purposes.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: adianasr

It is interesting to note that Jodha needed an impetus to believe Jalal - and belief is not faith - and therein lies the difference between these two - Jalal has faith in his Love (and here I do not mean another person - as I have said, this is a most laughable premise that one person can change another) and hence he is not stagnant - he is moving on his chosen path.

No, this is not a balanced story yet - and the balance cannot be achieved as long as belief remains - the balance will happen only when Jodha's belief dissolves into faith - becoz faith is blind and hence it is Love.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Shweta16


Krish, me too damn frustrated !

M watching EHT ...Sanjeeda and Simone both are treat to watch






So am I!!! Sanjeeda is beautiful & I but an OK actress. Am watching it for my love, Simone Singh. Good actress, awesome screen presence, very articulate & stunning! What's not to love.
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais




So am I!!! Sanjeeda is beautiful & I but an OK actress. Am watching it for my love, Simone Singh. Good actress, awesome screen presence, very articulate & stunning! What's not to love.

Trips, you are watching this show at 8PM slot and not watching JA😡 And Sanjeeda always ends up doing revenge story/track. Similar kind of roles.
Edited by aashyagh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Yes, she can out-Mahaam Mahaam any day. Loved the way she tackled that Jatin. Cool aggression; a terrible woman. And yet her famed instinct fails her when it comes to her husband and her best friend! Plus she is going to come a cropper with the son who is her sole weakness.

Durga is elegant and fine-boned and I do not mind it that she is not a great actress. The script makes her both intelligent and resourceful, which is more than enough. If you want high powered acting, you have to see Lord Krishna and, even more so, Draupadi in Mahabharat, currently my 3rd serial. I never watch more than 3 at any given time.

Tripti my pet, you have abandoned me; I do not see you in my new abode at all. I do not know what to make of it.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais




So am I!!! Sanjeeda is beautiful & I but an OK actress. Am watching it for my love, Simone Singh. Good actress, awesome screen presence, very articulate & stunning! What's not to love.

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, she can out-Mahaam Mahaam any day. Loved the way she tackled that Jatin. Cool aggression; a terrible woman. And yet her famed instinct fails her when it comes to her husband and her best friend! Plus she is going to come a cropper with the son who is her sole weakness.

Shyamala, that is the weakness of every serial, they make a character very strong and intelligent, they make sure to let you down, where you expect them to excel. I know Simone is going to be entirely different after she gets to know the reality of her husband and her best friend's affair. But, I really do not see, how will they take this revenge track further and how far they can make it interesting to viewers. Either they mess with characters after some point of time, or go ahead showing it as a Saas bahu drama, as it doesn't have too many layers/tracks attached to it.

Durga is elegant and fine-boned and I do not mind it that she is not a great actress. The script makes her both intelligent and resourceful, which is more than enough. If you want high powered acting, you have to see Lord Krishna and, even more so, Draupadi in Mahabharat, currently my 3rd serial. I never watch more than 3 at any given time.
I agree with you in toto. I like Sanjeeda for her screen presence. And Draupadi being a new comer is doing a commendable job.

Tripti my pet, you have abandoned me; I do not see you in my new abode at all. I do not know what too make of it.

Shyamala Aunty



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