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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



👏 Trips along with your Precap post you shd do this one too!!!😉😆

This is wonderful!!!👍🏼




Oh thank you, but what is wonderful?

My love for gold & silver? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: divyavm



Awesome picks- no honorable mention for Bharmal reading the pain and love in Jalal's eyes?




Bhaarmal is a slimy oppurtunist who was willing to barter off his daughter in exchange for having a royal bum.



Doesn't deserve a mention.







HB should've been married to Bhaarmal, they would've made a good pair. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Div: I made a thread for you, and your new Dazzling status.. Go see!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


🤣 Just imagine her melodramatic gestures if HYSTERIAwati had managed to actually chop off her tongue, & then gone to accuse Jalal 😆




But how would she?


O right, I forgot, she would talk through her eyes & then Bhaarmal would be accused of not being able to read her eyes. 😳

Edited by Mallika-E-Bhais - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
No, no Ash, I agree with you most of the time, but not on this one. I have watched Iqbal Khan in Tumhari Pakhi, and he is a very good, subtle actor, but he cannot handle a grand sweep of emotion and despair. His face does not register it.

Devdas needs an actor who can go over the top with panache and carry conviction, as it is really not a film but an opera. Every emotion is larger than life size. Rajat could do it, without crying at all. Devdas is a bitter, self-hating, self-destructive character, and it would be a challenge for him. The best Devdas was Dilip Kumar, not Shahrukh Khan, though he had better actresses for both Paro and Chandramukhi to support him. .

Shyamala

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Thank god, it's only a rumour,but still I don't like to see Jalal playing Devdas nor it would suit him. I think Iqbal Khan will be good for this role, he can carry it. He will look good.

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Shyamala, Rajat can do justice to the role, but crying Rajat? He suits more as an angry/raging young man, than to be shown as a drunkard looser. Somehow, I don't like the character Devdas. Chandramukhi loved him so much, and even he did, but what was the need for him to die at his childhood love's doorstep, I know many may not agree, but I hate such men.
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Posted: 11 years ago

No, Tripti dear, you are wrong, presuming that it is you who wrote the part in bold. Or was it Mandy?

Anyhow, Rajat would find it a very interesting challenge to play a bitter, self-hating, self-destructive character, and he will win, and that without shedding a single tear.

Devdas is like Hamlet, a role every actor worth his salt hopes to play at some time in his career.
PC Barua, Dilip Kumar. Shivaji Ganesan, Nageswara Rao, the list is a long one. Rajat should try it too, if he gets the chance.

Also do see my response to Ash above. The best Devdas so far was Dilip Kumar, though Shahrukh tried very hard. Too hard, and it showed, though he had better support from the actresses who played Paro and Chandramukhi.

I saw Devdas in The Hague, and in the death scene, there were mutters from the (Indian) audience Jaldi marta kyon nahin hai, ghar to ja sakte the! I did not like that, but it showed that he could not hold the audience in that kind of extreme, long drawn out tragic scene.

I wrote a review of this Devdas for Rediff Movies, and here it is. Not, you will see, a flattering one!


Obsession gone wrong
Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Devdas disappoints

Shyamala B Cowsik

I could not agree more with Anshuman Rawat. Devdas is a tale of obsession gone terribly wrong.

I did not like Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam [Sanjay Leela Bhansali's previous film] and his urge to exhaust every colour on the palette in the loudest, brightest tones possible. But that may be excused --- it was not a classic revisited.

When one remembers the bitter delicacy of the Bimal Roy version [starring Dilip Kumar in 1955] --- the quietude, the aching sadness so starkly portrayed without being buried under all this tinsel --- is enough to make one weep in frustration.

Sadly, it is not the three principal actors in Devdas who fail. Shah Rukh Khan does a good job in a very difficult role. In any case, no one else could have tackled this role. His flashes of arrogant harshness are excellent, and he can carry off sensuous romantic scenes effortlessly.

Madhuri Dixit, while her megawatt charm of Dil To Pagal Hai has faded, does an equally good job. As for Aishwarya Rai, Bhansali has done a masterful job of camouflaging her weaknesses as an actress in practically every scene, and of photographing her to near perfection.

It is the director who lets the actors down in this overloud confection that strains the nerves, the eyes and the ears.

However, I disagree with Rawat on one point. He writes, "Agreed the sets are out of this world and the costumes mindblowing..."

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The costumes may be excellent and painstakingly styled, but they lack the aristocratic, understated elegance of the dresses of the same class of Bengalis in, for example, Satyajit Ray's Ghare Bhaire. Ray was an acknowledged master at recreating the ambience of the feudal period in Bengal. Every woman in Devdas looks like an overdecorated Christmas tree, except perhaps for Paro in the beginning. After the interval, Paro catches up with her mother and Devdas' mother in this respect.

As for the sets, they scream of ostentation --- every room has at least one hundred clashing colours in it. Vijayendra Ghatge's (Paro's husband) house has the most ghastly blue walls with plaster mouldings ever seen in Hindi films. The floor inlays in Chandramukhi's kotha will give you a headache. And Paro's house, with more stained glass than the Chartres cathedral, also has walls and decorations that avoid coordination with the stained glass.

The sets of the three houses look like some sort of space city out of a Star Wars film, and no one can imagine anyone with taste and refinement that characterised that class in that age living in such three-dimensional cardboard cutouts. Santosh Sivan in Asoka, with a much wider canvas, had managed an infinitely superior look on a fraction of the stated budget of Devdas.

I might be out of sync with the general public, but if this is what we consider to be the acme of Mumbai filmmaking, God help the discerning audience. People have no business massacring classics like this; there ought to be a law against it.

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Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
Remember some of the losers Nicolas Cage played, Ash? One does not like them, but still it is a challenge. I do not like Hamlet either, but every great actor wants to play that role.

Devdas does not weep at all. He is sarcastic and sneering when sober, and even more so when he is drunk. Why, I had no idea Jalal was going to weep worse than the sob sisters of old Hindi films, Mala Sinha and her ilk!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Shyamala, Rajat can do justice to the role, but crying Rajat? He suits more as an angry/raging young man, than to be shown as a drunkard looser. Somehow, I don't like the character Devdas. Chandramukhi loved him so much, and even he did, but what was the need for him to die at his childhood love's doorstep, I know many may not agree, but I hate such men.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Shyamala, I agree Devdas is a larger than life character - operatic yes - but my problem with him is his weak will - unlike Sidney Carton, who is quiet similar, yet comes out as the better man by showing a strength of character that Devdas could not and did not.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Oh, Tripti my dear, the things you think up! Yes, bottled water, Tata's Himalaya brand for choice!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

The amount Hamida goes on & on & on & on & on & on & on about Jodha & her purity, One would think Jodha isn't a woman but a new, bottled version of water.

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