Jodha Akbar 212: Manna from Heaven or a mrigtrishna ? - Page 3

Great post Aunty 👍🏼.

I also really loved the look on Jalal's face at the doorway. He had a similar one of (only) regret when standing near Jodha's bedside after vishpaan. I can watch these emotions across his face again and again. Jodha's expressions - the instant brightness in her eyes upon seeing him, a micro-inch widening of her lips into a smile, the crease on her forehead - were equally good. I feel the scene was perfectly done until they reached the centre of the room.

Your take on the love scene covered my feelings also aunty. But am ever hopeful that the actual patch-up scene will be well executed with actions out of the checklist .

The scene between Sujamal and Jalal in the tent was well executed. It showed that strong personalities with long lasting enmity can have respect for each other 👍🏼.

As I posted in Anita's thread, I personally think that SD is descendant from Changewing dragon line 😉. They have this ability to remain invisible and track their prey. It's the only way SD could have trailed the duo, evade the soldiers, land on tree top and remain invisible until the last second of attack 😕.

I have lost hope that Jalal can ever doubt either Maham or Sharifuddin . And if by any miracle it does happen, then also it will be too late for him to act on it - like police arriving late at a crime scene in our movies 😉.

I have one line for Rukayya Begum - as Ron Weasly would say 'She has lost her marbles' 😆😆

No, Lashykanna, I do not agree with you on this, and I think this is a nice change !

After sitting thru the last episode,the only frame that stayed with me was Jalal's face as he parted the curtains and stood in the doorway to Jodha's hoojra. It was a wonderful display of multiple emotions and so much like an abashed little boy. It is not easy to convey something like that; and Rajat made Jalal suddenly look absurdly young, whereas usually he looks far more mature that his age would warrant.

For Jodha, do watch that part again. She looked sharp faced and wary and a bit resentful at first, and then suddenly the eyes lit up and the whole face warmed up in a trice as she began moving towards him. I have not seen her look like that since the Kajri days, and that was far more carefree and light. Here, it was all the more remarkable. And then, when he is apologising again and again, even if she does not follow suit, her lines were all very good. Very sweet and supportive, and even if the hugs and kisses were pathetic, especially the ridiculous cheek kissing shots, the overall tone was warm and a welcome change.

Lastly, if this lead pair is so uncomfortable with each other that they cannot even hug each other properly, they had better get themselves a new Jodha, for a new Jalal is out of the question. This pair can hardly go on like this, like two trees standing close to each other. It will look ridiculous, and as it is, whatever chemistry there ever was between them seems to have evaporated of late.

And someone should stop Rajat from scrunching up his nose when showing anger/rage. His nose looks like a misshapen potato, and his face looks comical. And this when he is so handsome!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: lashy

Jalal:

Contrary to your thoughts aunty, the best scene Jalal-wise today for me was still the one of realization kneeling beside Sujamal👏... it was my favourite in a long time...neither overdone nor undercooked... I didn't like the episode ever since Jalal enterd her hojra😕

Jodha:

Again, I didn't find anything exceptional with her reaction in that scene aunty.. actually, I was disappointed with Jodha.. I thought she'd started this entire Sujamal meeting and vachan thing primarily to protect the shehenshah's life... when Mothi came to tell her about Sujamal's life, her entire thoughts were only for sujamal and how her vachan was never bhanged... not even a second of relief that shehehnshah and her relationship might go back to what it was... it was all an anticlimax of the tidal wave of emotions that Jalal has been going through for the past two weeks..is this the same Kajri who was jealous of Ruqaiyya, bit her veil and teased Jalal that she knew what was on his mind as they tied that dhaaga, the Jodha who blushed when he said 'there's only Rajvanshi Begum who can do that to me' etc etc...😭

This is back to the Jodha from post-fake-pregnancy time where it wouldn't have made much difference to her if Jalal was hers or not...he, on the other hand breathes, eats, sleeps, lives her!😭

A love scene, this one?!?:The director obviously has no idea of how to shoot a love scene. Fantasy or not, this was the first warm and tender scene between Jalal and Jodha, and it deserved better treatment. As liberty2 pointed out on my last thread, with a wicked sense of humour, it was less like a love scene, and more like a checklist being ticked off one by one. Here is my version of it:

It was horrible aunty... however, I am not as disheartened as the rest of the forum because I didn't have my hopes up after the promo itself...I found both RT and PS unable to bring out their best here for whatever reasons... 😕

but, apart from this scene I've found Pari looking very tired lately... I wasn't convinced during Friday epiosde and thought it came across that way since Jalal's performance was mega-big (where I still think RT went a bit overboard) but the Monday-Tuesday ones were distinctly obvious - especially yesterday's (I'm not referring to the romantic scene here but the one with Mothi) Something is wrong for sure on the sets... and its the first time I'm finding Pari this way - a bit 'lost' is the adjective I'd use!😕

- Rajat pulling out all the stops for Jalal's Majnun act. I have had enough of a weeping Jalal. A man can be sensitive without having to be a watering pot.

He cries more than her these days...😆

- Jalal being lectured by Hamida Banu, Salima Begum, Jijianga ,and possibly Javeda and the palace cat as well, about what they will insist was his unwarranted cruelty towards Jodha, and the need for him to make immediate reparation. Since he will feel exactly the same by then, he will cry a few more bucketfuls.

😆

- Jalal riding at breakneck speed to Amer, only to draw a blank there. If he had remembered Mainavati's last bhashan, that she would close her doors to a parityaktaJodha, he could have spared himself (or rather his horses) the trouble.

Mainawati took sanyaas after that sukanya's wedding me thinks...she's been AWOL since😆

- The Amer lot will curse Sujamal, roundly and with good reason, for having created this imbroglio, while Jalal will speak up in his favour, insisting that he is still a member of the family.

😆

Yes of course, for the right to save Jalal's life has now been signed, sealed and delivered to the Amer royal family - first it was Bhagwan Das (at that farcical "battle" at Sujanpur) , and then Jodha. Now since Sujamal has also saved Jalal's life, he must still be a member of the family!

We do have Mughal loyalties like Peer Mohammad and Atgah Sahab, but they seem to be cute teddies... (alas one of them mercilessly dunked into the river😭)

Sujamal: I still think very poorly of his terminal folly in entangling Jodha in a mess of his making, and then running away and leaving her to face the music, but he was good yesterday. He looked princely, and his exchange with Jalal was dignified and to the point on both sides. These are enemies who fully respect each other as warriors. He also took himself off with dignity before the scene began to sag under the weight of their collective nobility!

I did not think much of Jalal's breakneck chase after Sujamal, except that it was a break from the claustrophobic confinement to the inside of the harem. Their duel and the mano y mano (hand to hand) combat was just passable, with Jalal leaping athletically over the tree branch to get at Sujamal, and later throwing him bodily over the branch, being the only highlights (Akbar was reputed to be very strong physically).

Something aunty outside the claustrophobic harem... I liked it... he has a very pretty frock and very pretty hair...made for good viewing 😆

I liked Sujamal yesterday.. his and Jalal's face-off was the best scene of the episode...

Sharifuddin:As for Sharifuddin, how on earth could he position himself so neatly within shooting range of Jalal without being heard and seen? He could not have known where precisely the chase would take Jalal &v Sujamal without following them and if so, he would have been spotted. Next, how could he know the accompanying soldiers would not catch up with Jalal, and if so, they would spot Sharifuddin and might even have collared him.

What it all boils down to is that Sharifuddin must have been an honours student at Hogwarts. He simply focussed his mind on Jalal, and apparated straight to where he was, pummelling Sujamal! Bingo!

I loved the way Jalal questioned him, with cold precision, where he had been all this while. And the even colder, narrow eyed look he gave him after listening to Sharifuddin's stammering reply (surely a conspirator should have a back up stoy ready for all eventualities? And Sharifuddin knew that Jalal had been saved and Sujamal injured, and had all the time in the world to think up something plausible).

But when the enquiry re: the inhouse gaddar was entrusted to Atgah Khan (of the zero effectiveness track record), and to Adham Khan, my heart sank. Does the Mughal court not have even a couple of sharp and trustworthy investigators?

I knowww it was anti-climactic again... take the reins of investigation from one perpetrator and hand it to another..

As for the opening scene and the precap, I am by now totally fed up of the Ruqaiya-Mahaam confabulations, and the Hamida Banu-Salima Begum Greek chorus of self-reassurance as well. I would readily take the vanvaas, or Amer (I long to see the delightfulDadisaa again!) or Mathura - anything but this madhouse of a harem!

HB, Salima, Ruq, MA and Javeda... all of their lines and sentences have been overdone to death! I fail to see them taking the story forward in a good way at all... Atgah escapes the list only because his scenes literally last for less than 3 seconds😆

My dear Priya,

I am so glad that you agree with me on my favourite scene in this episode.

And even more so to find a fellow Potterite. Some day, you and I will exchange notes on how Severus Snape defines, or redefines true love at its deepest and most selfless.

I am intrigued by this Changewin dragon angle. Where is it from? Actually, he is more like an over-size weasel; I am sure your dragons would reject any ides of his being a descendant of theirs - they must be noble, fiery creatures - with violent disdain!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Priya_nv

Great post Aunty 👍🏼.

I also really loved the look on Jalal's face at the doorway. He had a similar one of (only) regret when standing near Jodha's bedside after vishpaan. I can watch these emotions across his face again and again. Jodha's expressions - the instant brightness in her eyes upon seeing him, a micro-inch widening of her lips into a smile, the crease on her forehead - were equally good. I feel the scene was perfectly done until they reached the centre of the room.

Your take on the love scene covered my feelings also aunty. But am ever hopeful that the actual patch-up scene will be well executed with actions out of the checklist .

The scene between Sujamal and Jalal in the tent was well executed. It showed that strong personalities with long lasting enmity can have respect for each other 👍🏼.

As I posted in Anita's thread, I personally think that SD is descendant from Changewing dragon line 😉. They have this ability to remain invisible and track their prey. It's the only way SD could have trailed the duo, evade the soldiers, land on tree top and remain invisible until the last second of attack 😕.

I have lost hope that Jalal can ever doubt either Maham or Sharifuddin . And if by any miracle it does happen, then also it will be too late for him to act on it - like police arriving late at a crime scene in our movies 😉.

I have one line for Rukayya Begum - as Ron Weasly would say 'She has lost her marbles' 😆😆

Wonderful post ma'am!

My dear Ash,

I am so glad that you understood why I wrote this the way I did!

It was not at all a bad episode, all things considered, and yes, I am very protective towards Jalal. He is only a little younger than my Sasha, and he is so very good most of the time that he deserves all the praise I lavish on him.

I do hope Jodha pines for him when she has gone away, otherwise there would be no point in the viraha phase at all. Let us see.

Talking of praising Rajat/ Jalal, I also feel that Rajat has to stop scrunching up his nose when portraying anger. It does not look at all nice, and it spoils his looks.

I too have yet to see the promo.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Shyamala, so nice that you are back with a nice post😊, to bring our moods up😆

No one else, praises Jalal as you do (you bash as well no doubt😭).

He stole the show again yesterday. The scene between Sujamal and Jalal was nice and it sounds nice, when Jalal addresses "Jodha" as just "Jodha" without the begum tail.

I really did not want Jalal running behind Jodha and going to be cry baby until he finds her. His pain will be more now and I just hope the reconcilation scene (actual) is better than yesterday's and we can see Jodha also longing for Jalal during this time (minus her thoughts/care for Pashu Pakshi and other clan) and only for Jalal.

Jodha- only for a second she looked or was positive, but when she was only happy about Sujamal's safety and just nodded her head, when Moti Devi asked her to forgive Shehansha, It was more like Mother Teresa doing some favour to our Jalal😡.

Why cant she ask sorry (even in dreams, Jalal can't imagine that Jodha can ask sorry😆, he knows her so well)

I have not seen the promo, but from the pics, I felt that Jalal was in some tent (was it just my assumption😕) and if he is in Mahal, why is he in Mahal till Friday??

Thank you, my dear, and your last line is priceless! As is your Madam Cartwheel. I see that I have immortalised Jodha Begum's nose ring.😉

And the bit about having to split your name (what is it, if I may? ) is spot on!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: rpeez

Wonderful post ma'am!

Jalaal's face when he opened the curtains that separated him and the love of his life was a picture! Man, can Rajat emote!

When Sujamal told his name while losing conscience, I couldn't help but, beam, it reminded me of the times I have to break my name so that a westerner could pronounce my name right. 😆

You didn't hate Jodha! Surprise, surprise 😆

Apparently there's a new promo in town with Jalaal going maudlin over a Jodha Lisa, so I am guessing it's probably true, that his puppy love session with madame cartwheel was a figment of his imagination.

For a minute when he entered the tent yesterday to find a bandaged Suja propped on his elbows, he looked a tad rueful that he didn't know which shampoo brand Suja used, and couldn't ask it out loud infront of his khidmatgaars. 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you, my dear, and your last line is priceless! As is your Madam Cartwheel. I see that I have immortalised Jodha Begum's nose ring.😉

And the bit about having to split your name (what is it, if I may? ) is spot on!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

I am sure most of them used to pronounce it Rackksha, to rhyme with hacksaw!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: rpeez

Aunty it's Raksha 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I am sure most of them used to pronounce it Rackksha, to rhyme with hacksaw!

Shyamala Aunty

Ha ha ha true! 😆

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

The moment Jodha talked "SENSE", I knew, infact sure...it is all Jalal's dream 😆