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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Mansi , tatasky or Airtel spoiler never said jungle spoiler,



but they said jalal will dought, &say leave, second promo he is saying sorry, but scene is shown some place type ,what means?
jodha is where standing AGRA, or another place 😕 😕 😕 😕



ya, in both promos she is in her/his room only
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



there was one thing, that Suja was in contact with HK after leaving Amer through letters, and Akbar knew abt it... only he never met Suja... but from what he knew from HK abt suja, Akbar knew, Suja to be a very good warrior, and wanted him to be with him... but Suja never agreed... and so akbar asked Bharmal to give Suja's share to him (Sujamal) , thinking, this will make Suja come to him...but before Bharmal agrees, Suja came to know abt SD's plot , as that time SD was at Ajmer, and so Suja wrote HK abt it... HK informed akbar, and akbar declared war on SD, but SD planned to kill Akbar before he reached to warfield, and that's where suja saved him and that was there first and last meeting... this is what i have read...



Thnx a lot for this detail. More or less same, i also got to know. So, these ''Letter'' meetings of Suja-HK were a fact.

You know what. Few days back someone posted that Suja - HK had NO brother - sister relationship historically. Even said this to be a creation of the movie. I tried to correct/intervene in that post and wanted to mention these letters but had no reference for these letters. Next time i will mention you.. :p..as a reference.

Its a pity that Sujamal could not get his rightful share despite Bharmal agreeing. True to his promise to his sister, he died saving Akbar's life. A braveheart.!!.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Nice take Mansi 👏👏 .. After the new Promo I just want this week to get over asap so that we can jump onto next week and keep drooling over the upcoming first Jalal-Jodha hug and that million dollar cheek kiss .. I hope real episode is even better than this promo 😳

But will this mean no jungle track ?? And also will they consummate too ?? 😕 ... I hope CVs dont rush with this phase because once its all over , they will once again show random tracks .. I dont mind an emotional cum passionate moment where both confess but plss no consummation so soon .. 😕

Now coming to the episode , I loved how Jodha was sharing her thoughts with Moti and also realised her love for Jalal but why Jalal cannot share his thoughts regarding Jodha with someone like Hamida 😡 .. Why Maham only 😡 .. I know he is close to Maham but in such cases , I iwsh he shares his emotions with his own biological mother because a mother understands her son the best and would hv definitely shown him the right path today ... Anyways all thanks to these talks , at least we now konw Jodha is in love with Jalal and ready to accept it too while Jalal is still not doubting Jodha but is palin hurt because she is hiding facts from him ...

Ruqaiyya off late I feel is wasted as there is no specific track around her .. she is just fed about the happenings by Maham and all she does is gives her wicked smirk and waits for Jalal-Jodha to fight 😕 .. she basically has no contribution .. I hope CVs give her some track of her own soon 🤔


Maham on the other hand seems to b determined to give Delhi to Adham khan , so it could b next track and mayb final one for Maham 🤔 .. But I wonder why she wants to give it to Adham .. is it to save Jalal's life from Adham or to give a respectful position to her son or both ?? 🤔.. Its lcear that she has her weakness for Jalal and cannot see him dead .. so in a way she wants to protect Jalal too and at the same time wants Adham to get some power too ... Makes sense 🤔

Jalal finally sees real portrait of Sujamal's face hidden behind khawaja shera disguise but I hv a doubt here ... Did Jalal guess its Sujamal only or did he just guess its that random guy with whom Jodha had her secret meetings 😕 .. I mean did Jalal see Sujamal in the past .. if not then he wont recognise him especially with that moustache and all 😕 .. but how come Maham easily recognises Sujamal whether he is in disguise or not 😕... Anyways wont look for much logic as we already know that Jalal will MU Jodha on this


So it seems Jalal will stop Jodha in Mahal only and no jungle track coming as we got two back to back promos ... wonder why the sudden rush 😕 ... Anyways looking forward to Jalal-Jodha emotional and passionate moments next week now ☺️
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hey Mansi,
Nice post. Or should I say nice posts, for all your posts that I have read on this Forum. You have got very fine sense of interpreting the showcased scenes and boy, you have a way with words!!!
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Are you a writer? Books/Blogs/ Forums like IF etc.? Or aspiring to be?
Well, let me come to the point. I thought I would share my views and a small prediction on a particular part of your post. This part of your post goes like:
again a doubt surfaces in me ... why does Maham need Ruq's connivance in all this? Is it merely to shift Dilawar from Bakshi's service to Ruq, so that they can both engineer a clandestine meeting between Dilawar and Jodha? I am actually confused as to why Maham is taking Dilawar away from Bakshi , because I would have thought Dilawar under Bakshi would more freely roam the palace and try to meet Jodha, whereas under Ruq his movements may get restricted, thus actually negating Maham's plans? Anyway, let's see what exactly Maham has planned.
True it would have been easier to keep Sujamal feeling more comfortable with Bakshi Bano. he would have become complacent after a while and may have cummitted a mistake that might have given himself away. But for that Maham would have had to wait for Sujamal to act. She would not have been in control of situation. Now she has cuased enough damage to Jalal's trust in Jodha and has instigated him to the brink of eithe ra breakdown or a showdown! Now she needs to act fast. She has to hit the iron rod when it's red hot. That's whay now she does not want to wait for Sujamal to make a mistake. That is why she has had the painting made in a hurry and will show it to Jalal. (Don't you think Tabassum would have made a better painting had she been given a bit more time?, I mean look at her painting of Jodha... it's so life like. But Sujamal's painting looks quite crude in comparison. Can't believe it is supposed to be the same artiste who made both the paintings😉😆 In reality it may be two different artistes; who knows?)
So she is using Ruqaiya again to execute what SHE wants done, and NOW. I am sure Ruqaiya is instructed to waste no time in engineering a meeting between Sujamal and Jodha.; the sooner the better.
Maham has had her eye on Sujamal for a while. She knows he has not even tried to meet Jodha so far. But she does not know Sujamal's purpose for entering Harem, obviously she does not know how long he plans to stay in Harem. And she definitely does not want him AND Jodha to be part of the Harem for long. so she is hurrying things up now.
There is another angle to consider, though right now it is just a small part of the big picture, it is soon going to get big. After the open and ruthless insult of Aadham and therby herself in the Deevan-e-Khas by Jalal that Aadham was not given the Subhedari of Malwa, she does not want to wait to inflict pain on Jalal. She does not want Jalal killed but yes, she has to pay back and payback fast. So she has started hurrying up. (And it is going to backfire on her big time! She may somehow wriggle her way out of a complete mess, but not before she loses at least some of the mammoth amount of trust that Jalal bestows upon her. Thus it is good from viweres' point of view that she is moving fast.)
and the very practical and show-specific thing to say would be Maham has nothing in her mind. CV's make her move!😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Nice take Mansi 👏👏 .. After the new Promo I just want this week to get over asap so that we can jump onto next week and keep drooling over the upcoming first Jalal-Jodha hug and that million dollar cheek kiss .. I hope real episode is even better than this promo 😳

Jyoti, you were the first person I thought of when I saw this promo. This is our cup of tea, right?😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 If we daily have a dose of this kind of promo both of our atmas will be shanti!

But will this mean no jungle track ?? And also will they consummate too ?? 😕 ... I hope CVs dont rush with this phase because once its all over , they will once again show random tracks .. I dont mind an emotional cum passionate moment where both confess but plss no consummation so soon .. 😕
I don't think consummation will come so soon. Looks like a long way to go. I remember one inrterview of Ekta where she said their love will happen in four phases - enmity, then friendship, then love and then passion. So I guess we are now standing on the edge between friendship and love, and consummation will come only at Stage Four.

Now coming to the episode , I loved how Jodha was sharing her thoughts with Moti and also realised her love for Jalal but why Jalal cannot share his thoughts regarding Jodha with someone like Hamida 😡 .. Why Maham only 😡 .. I know he is close to Maham but in such cases , I iwsh he shares his emotions with his own biological mother because a mother understands her son the best and would hv definitely shown him the right path today ... Anyways all thanks to these talks , at least we now konw Jodha is in love with Jalal and ready to accept it too while Jalal is still not doubting Jodha but is palin hurt because she is hiding facts from him ...
Jyoti, I was also totally miffed that he is using maham as his confidante. How the hell can he have any sense? Does he not have any idea at all that Maham is a bad egg? I cannot believe that someone so shrewd can be such a dumbo also!Ouch

Ruqaiyya off late I feel is wasted as there is no specific track around her .. she is just fed about the happenings by Maham and all she does is gives her wicked smirk and waits for Jalal-Jodha to fight 😕 .. she basically has no contribution .. I hope CVs give her some track of her own soon 🤔
I think she may start getting a meatier negative role only after Maham is gone!


Maham on the other hand seems to b determined to give Delhi to Adham khan , so it could b next track and mayb final one for Maham 🤔 .. But I wonder why she wants to give it to Adham .. is it to save Jalal's life from Adham or to give a respectful position to her son or both ?? 🤔.. Its lcear that she has her weakness for Jalal and cannot see him dead .. so in a way she wants to protect Jalal too and at the same time wants Adham to get some power too ... Makes sense 🤔
Yes that dichotomy is there in Maham. She wants to help Adham but not at the cost of Jalal's life. Do you think this surang-paigams are part of this Delhi takht plot?

Jalal finally sees real portrait of Sujamal's face hidden behind khawaja shera disguise but I hv a doubt here ... Did Jalal guess its Sujamal only or did he just guess its that random guy with whom Jodha had her secret meetings 😕 .. I mean did Jalal see Sujamal in the past .. if not then he wont recognise him especially with that moustache and all 😕 .. but how come Maham easily recognises Sujamal whether he is in disguise or not 😕... Anyways wont look for much logic as we already know that Jalal will MU Jodha on this
Jyoti, see this jalal has never personally seen Sujamal, so he surely thinks this is some Rajvanshi in disguise as Dilawar but he does not know it is Sujamal. I think that truth comes to his knowledge only after Sujamal takes the arrow for Jalal, and maybe mansingh will say that is his uncle Sujamal.

So it seems Jalal will stop Jodha in Mahal only and no jungle track coming as we got two back to back promos ... wonder why the sudden rush 😕 ... Anyways looking forward to Jalal-Jodha emotional and passionate moments next week now ☺️
There was some info that the jungle scene was being shot about ten days back, so I am wondering if this promo is symbolic and shot in the palace, but the real scene may be in Jalal's tent or in the ashram where Jodha stays etc,

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Posted: 11 years ago
Mansi and Jyo well he is a dumb ass where Maham is concerned. He has never been able to look through
Anyway eagerly awaiting Friday and your analysis of that day
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



Abhay, if they really decide to go as per hostory, then this plan of MA abt delhi throne, should come out in front of Jalal in next few days... the letters she burns, should be gone to him through Javeda... and Jalal to know abt MA, and should send her out of agra without letting anybody know... and next day in DEK announcement that MA resigned, and when AK demands the post, Jalal declines and gives it to Atga, which further angers AK



No I don't want to see MA send out of Agra quietly!
What about all of Jo's insults in DEK?!
MA should be insulted in DEK, DEA in Haram and EVERYWHERE😡😡😡

Is baat ki liye natikiya rupantar kar lena chahiye pleaseee
Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RuchaMulay

Hey Mansi,

Nice post. Or should I say nice posts, for all your posts that I have read on this Forum. You have got very fine sense of interpreting the showcased scenes and boy, you have a way with words!!!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏👏👏👏
Are you a writer? Books/Blogs/ Forums like IF etc.? Or aspiring to be?
Well, let me come to the point. I thought I would share my views and a small prediction on a particular part of your post. This part of your post goes like:
again a doubt surfaces in me ... why does Maham need Ruq's connivance in all this? Is it merely to shift Dilawar from Bakshi's service to Ruq, so that they can both engineer a clandestine meeting between Dilawar and Jodha? I am actually confused as to why Maham is taking Dilawar away from Bakshi , because I would have thought Dilawar under Bakshi would more freely roam the palace and try to meet Jodha, whereas under Ruq his movements may get restricted, thus actually negating Maham's plans? Anyway, let's see what exactly Maham has planned.
True it would have been easier to keep Sujamal feeling more comfortable with Bakshi Bano. he would have become complacent after a while and may have cummitted a mistake that might have given himself away. But for that Maham would have had to wait for Sujamal to act. She would not have been in control of situation. Now she has cuased enough damage to Jalal's trust in Jodha and has instigated him to the brink of eithe ra breakdown or a showdown! Now she needs to act fast. She has to hit the iron rod when it's red hot. That's whay now she does not want to wait for Sujamal to make a mistake. That is why she has had the painting made in a hurry and will show it to Jalal. (Don't you think Tabassum would have made a better painting had she been given a bit more time?, I mean look at her painting of Jodha... it's so life like. But Sujamal's painting looks quite crude in comparison. Can't believe it is supposed to be the same artiste who made both the paintings😉😆 In reality it may be two different artistes; who knows?)
So she is using Ruqaiya again to execute what SHE wants done, and NOW. I am sure Ruqaiya is instructed to waste no time in engineering a meeting between Sujamal and Jodha.; the sooner the better.
Maham has had her eye on Sujamal for a while. She knows he has not even tried to meet Jodha so far. But she does not know Sujamal's purpose for entering Harem, obviously she does not know how long he plans to stay in Harem. And she definitely does not want him AND Jodha to be part of the Harem for long. so she is hurrying things up now.
There is another angle to consider, though right now it is just a small part of the big picture, it is soon going to get big. After the open and ruthless insult of Aadham and therby herself in the Deevan-e-Khas by Jalal that Aadham was not given the Subhedari of Malwa, she does not want to wait to inflict pain on Jalal. She does not want Jalal killed but yes, she has to pay back and payback fast. So she has started hurrying up. (And it is going to backfire on her big time! She may somehow wriggle her way out of a complete mess, but not before she loses at least some of the mammoth amount of trust that Jalal bestows upon her. Thus it is good from viweres' point of view that she is moving fast.)
and the very practical and show-specific thing to say would be Maham has nothing in her mind. CV's make her move!😆😆😆😆

Thanks Rucha, for liking my posts. Yes I agree with your interpretation of why maham is shooting off Ruq's shoulders. She probably will now make Ruq send Sujamal on some pretext to Jodha so that they can make Jalal see this face-to-face and get angrier.
Regarding the way it may boomerang on Maham, isn't it anyway gross negligence that maham allowed any man inside the harem - whether he was a random rajvanshi or Sujamal - without a proper physical test?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Thnx a lot for this detail. More or less same, i also got to know. So, these ''Letter'' meetings of Suja-HK were a fact.

You know what. Few days back someone posted that Suja - HK had NO brother - sister relationship historically. Even said this to be a creation of the movie. I tried to correct/intervene in that post and wanted to mention these letters but had no reference for these letters. Next time i will mention you.. :p..as a reference.

Its a pity that Sujamal could not get his rightful share despite Bharmal agreeing. True to his promise to his sister, he died saving Akbar's life. A braveheart.!!.



Abhay I felt Sujamal really loved Jodha, more than her own brothers maybe. Somehow his life was only about bringing Jodha and Jalal together

He was instrumental in the marriage taking place, he saved Jalal's life and died protecting Jalal.

Such a tragic figure - did he actually have wife and kid/s?

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Abhay I felt Sujamal really loved Jodha, more than her own brothers maybe. Somehow his life was only about bringing Jodha and Jalal together

He was instrumental in the marriage taking place, he saved Jalal's life and died protecting Jalal.

Such a tragic figure - did he actually have wife and kid/s?

Even I want to know if Sujamal was married and had kids? We have never seen his wife, right? But there is one dialogue where Jodha tells Moti "If something happens to Sujamal, how will I be able to look at the eyes of my bhabhi?" so that means he is married.

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