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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: AntaresVega
Beautiful Post!
But don't dread the confrontation. It'll be worth it. If this were not to happen, then we'd be forever stuck with this forlorn Jalal and naive Jodha.

Yes, I know ... but let the worst happen fast so its behind us!😕

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MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: 111192
Jalal going to Amer to bring back is not possible as jalal would know that if jodha went to amer then she cant go alone all the way to amer ,she will go with some troop and daasi's but in this case she left alone so jalal will at once find out that she left agra fort through that secret passage which leads to jungle and thus he will find her within few hours of knowing that jodha has left the fort.

All the guards can say Jodha did not go out, she will hardly walk to Amer!
So Jalal will know she went the secret way.

I just hope CVs have not developed Gajni and show Jalal bring back Jodha by the same night!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: banuprasa
Hi Mansi!

Nice post. Very happy that Jalal do not doubt on Jodha & clarified himself that he is angry not because he met gair murd & only because she do not trust him and maintain secret with him.

Lets see what happens today.

Actually I think it is neither "gair mard" nor "lying" that he is angry with. As I have written inn my post, I thin he is more angry with himself that he has become a distrustful person again!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: Akanksha_33
Great analysis Mansi.

It was a slow episode but not a bad episode. Oh God the day has arrived. 😭

I think the track will end up making their relation better, so we'll have to go through today for that.

Jodha and Jalal, I liked that scene, great expressions by the two. Pir Mohammed died brutally, sad scene it was. Mazhar-Aziza was a useless scene just to rile up Jalal more, Jalal has better things to do than solve his marriage case and Ruqaiyya bhashan.🤢

Akanksha, I feel like those kids that watch horror movies ... they will put their hands on their eyes to avoid seeing, but they will keep watching from the gaps between their fingers!

I feel as if I am going to do that today!

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: skanda12

Abhay, that's an angle I never thought of ... hmmm ... could Maham have brought Mazhar in to create this Jodha-Jalal rift? Or was she juts doing "chance pe dance"?

Yes Adham is on a downward spiral now for sure!

Maham is very much possible here.!She was very happy..Camera was stuck to her "battissi".😉
Also, Chance pe Dance is a gift fromCV's as they always find some case or the other which matches Jo-Ja's life in DEk.!.

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: adianasr
I wonder when Jodha's eyes will open to the truth of being a royal queen and a Shahenshah's Begum Mansi and to the saying 'Caesar's wife has to be above suspicion'!!! Why do we keep talking of The Emperor's eyes being opened when all he has aksed for is to be tols the truth - when his only accusation has been of her lying and hiding the truth - for nowhere has he accused her of an extra marital affair!!!

I would take no sides on this one. I am neutral. Both are suffering and its all a needless situation. He could have outright asked her for an explanation without waiting for her to tell. And she need not have waited to tell. Or she could have told Sujamal that she cannot keep any secrets from her husband since marriage makes them both into "one person". And he could have listened to her arguments of couching for the character of Sujamal. Both are to blame and yet both are not to blame either. Strange paradox!

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: ashpat
Mansi, just loved how u analysed jalal's past with distrust and feelings. ⭐️

One thing i am happy about is jalal said takliya when jodha approached him. But lets c tom. What happens. I will comment more on precap after i watch entire scene.

When i had seen the promo, i was dreading it little too but i am ready for it. Otherwise, this story will not move forward.

Only hope is that they reconcile on fri by latest.

I second that! I am dreading but waiting to get it over with. Already I don't know how I will manage to write tomorrow's post if it is too dreadful!😕

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: AntaresVega
Mansi, don't you think that the PM scene was shot to perfection? We all kind of forgot about it in the ensuing JJ madness. It clearly paves the way for Adham's end. After this, Jalal will be quite suspicious of MA and after Shivani track, he might send her off to Delhi. All this might take a few months time.

Actually I was a bit perplexed by this PIr Mohd killing scene. Why did they stretch it so much ...? First in the forest, then in the water ...?

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Cleo12345

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Posted: 11 years ago

#39

I always love your psychoanalysis on Jalal...you understand Jalal's brain like no one does( way better than Rukaiya😆 ) ...Remember i crowned you a Jalal expert couple of weeks back.

Human brain is so complicated. I will shed some light on one more aspect of what is going inside Jalal's head.

The kind of reaction Jodha brings out of Jalal is unique. He is used to being around people who are flawed and seems to be comfortable with he fact his relationships with them is nowhere close to perfect . I am sometimes surprised that he has very little expectations from people close to him.

Rukaiya is a 'friend' but is never around when he is in the dumps. He knows it and never seems to complain about it.

Salima a loyal friend and a guide...nothing more.

Hamida bano is a mother who was not around when he needed her the most but he seems to have forgiven her for that.

BB is an emotionally weak sister who can never be someone he can count on.

Badi Ammi ...he is not stupid...he never consults her over certain matters . He loves and trusts her but is not completely oblivious to her bias towards certain people.

Adham khan is a good for nothing foster brother who is a good fighting machine...nothing more.

But that is not the case with Jodha. He secretly wants a perfect relationship with her. She brings out the best and the worst in him. Most of us are surprised at his current state of mind and behavior.

He is clearly falling apart...why? Because she is not confiding in him? However, a few things are very clear...

1 . He knows that if she is hiding something but believes that there has be a very good reason for that...that is why the repeated concern for her safety.

2. He is sure that she is not back stabbing him or cheating on him. Someone else touching her bothers him but not to the extent of pulling out his sword right away and kill the man and/ or jodha.

3. Deep down he believes that she is not telling him the facts because she is afraid of him and his reaction. His jungle ka Sher is always alone because people are scared of him waala dialogue gives us the answer.

3. Despite badi ammi's best efforts, I think he still strongly suspects that the person she is meeting is most likely Sujamal.

4. He knows how she values relationships and breaks all rules to do the right thing...he couldn't stop her from going to BB when she was nazarband or even SD, the man she had every reason to hate, when there was a threat to Jalal's life

5. Deep down he knows that she is very attached to her brother and strongly believes that that her brother is not guilty of the two major crimes he was accused of ( Peeth ke peeche waar and attempt on Jalal's life... Attacking another army for land was something common in hose days...Haapened a lot in Rajputana and Jalal himself was doing the same thing... ).

6. The DEK scene, he did not question Aziza's love for Mazhar. Nor did he say anything to suggest that she was having an affair...To him, her crime was that she hid facts from Mazhar. That is why he did not punish her. She lost the man she loves ( though he said the opposite )...and that's her biggest punishment.

Now for someone who doesn't have a lot a expectations from his other loved ones ( they can be accused of bigger crimes), why is he so resless and almost falling apart for Jodha hiding something from him. For those familiar with the cause and effect theory in psychology will understand that the effect( he looks like a zombie) is disproportionate to the cause( she hid a fact and probably for a good reason). ...a normal reaction would be confront her and punish her . We are all wondering why he is not confronting her( will finally happen tomorrow but is delayed by a week) ...of course the fear that she'll MU him. But this and the extreme disappointment stem from another reason as well...subconsciously he has accepted her as his soulmate. For those of us who have been in love understand what a beautiful feeling it is to realize that you have found your soulmate. In the initial stages of this realization, there is an expectation that, this will be a perfect relationship...no fights, lies or hurt...complete trust and transparency...life gradually teaches you that this is not always the case. Soulmates fight too. But Jalal is still in that initial delicate stage when the smallest blow can completely shatter that beautiful feeling . That is what is happening with Jalal...he feels lost and the sense of loss is over the fact that he was wrong ...his relationship with Jodha is not perfect ...therefore, he does not have a soulmate...and will probably never will . That is earth shattering for him.

Edited by Cleo12345 - 11 years ago

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Mansi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: happygolucky099
nice analysis manasi
the epi was fine😃

jalal took the right decision regarding mazhar and aziza

its only mazhar who should decide whom he wants to marry

i don't get why jodha was not satisfied with jalal's decision

i guess to bring the confrontation of ja-jo cvs selected this stupid idea😆

See, it is so significant that Jalal did not tell Mazhar "OK go and marry Ruksana". He said "You go now and make whatever decision you want!" Isn't that very significant that he did not actually endorse Ruksana?

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