Take 5: Top 5 Countdown for March 24th - Page 9

Originally posted by: Reemirocks

Originally posted by: fatma201

Well said Shradda. 👏

No matter what Jodha does at the end of the day it becomes Jalals fault.

Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Yes... Abhay I have read that post in detail. Its about "vachans" and going by it. How Jalal had done this before and now Jodha is doing it because of her promise to Sujamal.

I do accept these points, but, :

1. when she is confronted by her husband to tell the truth as he had found out about her nightly jaunts, is it not her duty to blurt out the truth. Coz, if I have to choose between a dear brother and my husband, I would choose my husband only as he is my life. Am sure, a loving brother will totally understand a Sister's situation in this. Dont' you think. 😭

Not in serial world ... A promise is a promise. Also Jodha has promised her mom not to go back to Amer. maybe that is why she will go to the jungle.

2. What about her "Saath vachans" to her husband when she married ? SHould that go in thin air..pooff..!! 😭

She is trying to save his life by hiding the truth- that is one of the saath vachans.

3. There are many who have written of how Ekta's CVs are mostly women and they undermine the male characters to portray the female lead as "mahaan" - yes i agree and its true. Having seen many Ekta's shows, she always does this. 😕

They also think women audience likes this as well!

4. Jodha is always shown very shrewd and understands even minute gestures of the other person, how come, having lived with Jalal, doesnt get the point across when he tells his sad tale of being alone and passes comments or hints to her. In today's episode, she feigns innocence as to why there is a distance developing between herself and Jalal. 😲

Exactly! An inconsistency of the CVs!

5. I cannot, bear to see the male-lead-character time and again asking forgiveness and falling on his knees. In this case, we are talking about a great Emperor. I know, the target audience of such serials / shows for any production house is the female following, thats why its mostly women centric. But, the CVs forget that, women love "Strong, self-assured, authoritative men who are great lovers too" 😳

That is the folks in the forum ... Not sure about the TRP Group!

Viji

Originally posted by: lashy

Anu,
of what,i read...jodha goes into shock that jalal accuses her and then refuses to divulge name of person she was meetong na...
in that case, what can jalal do...puishment for meeting with enemy of sultanat or adultery both would be death na...
im guessing...so, obv theyre following the movie, right?

Originally posted by: divyavm

Was the Shove not a deliberate MU- all he has to do was read that letter or talk to Jodha once.

and you still hope for some sensible future tracks? Abhay, your optimism beats even mine. I have decided to have fun with my take 5 no matter what happens.

Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Yes... Abhay I have read that post in detail. Its about "vachans" and going by it. How Jalal had done this before and now Jodha is doing it because of her promise to Sujamal.

I do accept these points, but, :

1. when she is confronted by her husband to tell the truth as he had found out about her nightly jaunts, is it not her duty to blurt out the truth. You yourself have given the answer above that She has that promise which has shackled her.😊 Anyways one thing i agree that today Jalal will ask her and she will still not answer back due to that promise but she can give some reason like - I am not doing any wrong act. I will tell later not now..Something like this..And, if this does not happens then CV's are trying to insert more torture element here.😕

Coz, if I have to choose between a dear brother and my husband, I would choose my husband only as he is my life. Am sure, a loving brother will totally understand a Sister's situation in this. Dont' you think. 😭 I feel she has STILL not chosen anyone here. The POINT is NOT to CHOOSE anyone BUT to BalancE both😕😕. Anyways, as you said you will choose husband here. I feel for any woman choosing between brother and husband is very tough. Isn't it.?. And that too when that same brother is trying to safeguard life of that husband.?. Yes, a brother would understand about sister's situation, provided the brother knows that the husband has come to know about this so-called secret meeting. Also, this is NOT a normal situation. Here the brother is a "gaddar" in the eyes of Jalal, and hence he told Jodha that be quiet until some progress is attained by me. Suja trusts Jodha 'coz he knows the culprit can be anyone in the Mahal, so he trusts Jodha, and except Jodha everyone feels he is gaddar who tried to kill Jalal. And hence this situation.😊




2. What about her "Saath vachans" to her husband when she married ? SHould that go in thin air..pooff..!! 😭

Acc. to those vachans, she said -> "Aapse hi hamara saubhagya hai." And, here due to the same reason she is doing all this. If something bad be-falls on the husband. Then what's the use of those "Vachans".?. She is very much caring for those "Vachans" and infact she herself has told Jalal many times that she is doing all this due to those "Kartavya"(though we know NOW it is more than Kartavya.😉).



3. There are many who have written of how Ekta's CVs are mostly women and they undermine the male characters to portray the female lead as "mahaan" - yes i agree and its true. Having seen many Ekta's shows, she always does this. 😕

Ohh..😆...This Mahaan word FINALLY came here..😆😃...Here i will focus on the flip side of the coin.. NO Viji .. Ekta is NOT showing ONLY Jodha as Mahaan / Devi, etc.😆😆(Sorry, but i do not think anyone is devta or devi or mahaan here..But still answering this as you mentioned this in the reply..)..Now, our Shahenshah has ALSO JOINED the RANKS of becoming a DEVTA..😆..

Do NOT ask me for Sensiblity here as the CV''s themselves have lost it.
The reasons are as follows..

First, no begum can go OUT at night.😆
Second, if she goes😆 and IF her husband saw her, then AT VERY FIRST moment the husband will ASK her 😳, and will question at once that Who was that person.?.
And, if he is NOT doing this then i see this as a case of Devta...😉..😕

For NO body expects him to keep quiet...Why isn't he asking her directly.?.?..The million $ question is Why only Jodha should tell her.(I am NOT supporting Jodha but writing that the same rule is applicable to Jalal also)...Why He is putting various HINTS always.!.?.!..🥱🥱...Should finally ask her na.?...The fact is if Jodha is quiet due to her Vachan..He also was quiet as he has the fear in his mind to losing her or suspecting her.?..But someday these emotions will flow out and today is the day...Jalal will ask her and She will be quiet and will face the MUSIC from Jalal...I DO NOT hold Jalal wrong here...He has the right to do this..He has the right on his part to ask her if she meets anyone at night...He DID use his brain and "almost" concluded that it could br Sujamal only as no one else could DARE touch her in such a manner..But thanx to the GREAT spy network of Agra😉 and coupled with the advice of ever READY Wazir-r-Aliya and his Badi Ammi😕, the plot was taken for a TOSS from here...I do NOT find anyone WRONG here SINGLY...😊


4. Jodha is always shown very shrewd and understands even minute gestures of the other person, how come, having lived with Jalal, doesnt get the point across when he tells his sad tale of being alone and passes comments or hints to her. In today's episode, she feigns innocence as to why there is a distance developing between herself and Jalal. 😲

Rofl...Was that innocence..?..No...I do not find it so...On the contrary, I found some MILD puzzling shocking emotions on her face...NO that was NOT innocence...!!!!...Whom she will show innocence to.?.She was ALONE at that time..😆...Anyways, Jalal told her EARLIER that He is unhappy 'coz she lied to him regarding harem...Here i expected him to ask her directly..But he gave an entirely different reason to her..Before she could speak something he left..(Yes he was hurt and so he left...That was NOt his fault...But then whose fault it was.?..Situation ka fault hai..!!!..)..
Chalo theek hai...It is OK that Jodha is a naive person.😉. She needs time to understand more...BUT once she started to give hint during Aarti scene that - " Shahenshah your life is in danger. But again Jalal mentioned Sujamal there, and left the place.."..Again whom to blame..?..I do not find anyone to blame here..😕..
Jalal could ask directly na..!..!.Why always beat by the bush...Again our discussion boils to same point coz I did not find any point which proclaims any one SINGLY wrong here.!!..!.


5. I cannot, bear to see the male-lead-character time and again asking forgiveness and falling on his knees. In this case, we are talking about a great Emperor. I know, the target audience of such serials / shows for any production house is the female following, thats why its mostly women centric. But, the CVs forget that, women love "Strong, self-assured, authoritative men who are great lovers too" 😳


Before the episode airs i will NOT comment on this.!. Anyways he FELL on his knees before his Khuda NOT before his Wife.😕. I do not understand why is this issue of apology taken so seriously and viewed in this manner. 😕

They are husband-wife and if any such issue happens in private , it is not wrong. BUT if any apology happens it will NOT be for blaming anyone ALONE BUT they Will blame the circumstances and the adverse situations which no one of them could handle and no one could be held wrong here.

Remember:::The ability to choose one's course of action in adverse circumstances is the last of all Human Freedoms which nature has bestowed upon mankind.😕

Also, i NEVER thought about the issue of asking for an apology this much SERIOUSLY,😕 as this act of apology does NOT degrades anyone 'coz if anyone apologies es, this only increases his prestige in the EYES of the other person. Maafi kisi ko chhota nahi banaati hai and i do not feel giving air to this point..😊.
Yes, he is an Emperor BUT in private he is a husband. And i do not know about what anyone thinks BUT i feel that as long as they fight in private or do anything i am OK, if it is between THEM.!


Viji

Originally posted by: divyavm

Originally posted by: adianasr

I had promised myself that I will no longer make any post on this current fracas, but Anu this one is for your Q. The earlier problem was why TE was not asking directly and now the issue is why shd he apologise for asking what he does. I am totally upset with the second part and made my post on Caesar's wife just to state that his asking so is valid. As for why does he send her away without getting to the bottom of things - he asked her directly and she lied by omission - not telling and keeping silent is also eqivalent to lying. Now let us say Aziza asks the Emperor that his wife too is lying to him - so now where to his sense of justice? - his sending her to Amer until she can be honest to him is still a soft punishment than banishment - as I keep saying 'Caesar's wife has to be above suspicion' - and Jodha's actions can be quoted and TE's justice challenged if he does not take strong action - and keeping her in Agra as a nazarbandh is not a strong action - the Emperor has dispense justice with impartiality even where it affects him.