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TFS Maddy.😊 BTW, I have not read any of the threads that you have mentioned in your list. I need to read them one by one, to know what all I have missed this week🥱

Originally posted by: rima4ever

awesome collection ?

Originally posted by: history_geek

I made this post on Mansi's(Skanda12) thread, describing the dilemma in which

BOTH Jalal-Jodha are right NOW..!!..

TWICE Jalal was ALSO helpless due to his promise. I have mentioned the situations of Jalal and Jodha here..

This was my comment..

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Hi Mansi,

This is one of the best posts i am reading. Very positive post. This i say because you have focussed on trauma of both the leads today after examining BOTH jodha and Jalal in last two days.

Since yesterday the ONLY argument which has caught all attention is Jalal's hurt and trauma. Really i felt TOO BAD AND SAD for him. This guy is very much hurt. But what i don't get is holding 'ONE' person responsible for all this.

I expect Jodha to confess the secret. But that 'vachan' has spoilt the party. And she is unable. Even she feels why Suja took that vachan. Had it not been the case she would have done it.

Next, EVEN Jalal does not asks her DIRECTLY that whom you met.?.
He is indirectly showing his hurt that i wish you had trusted me Jodha Begum. There also the clause used was that you are lying to me regarding harem. He could have asked directly.?. The thing is if Jodha is bound by vachan Jalal too is not able to speak up due to fears of previous occassions where he doubted her...

The problem is that NEITHER JALAL NOR JODHA, no one is speaking up. So i see this BOTH ways.

I am sure the lead will be taken up by Jalal. He will ask whom you met as per promo and if she does not speaks there also then may be that jungle track will happen.

Another interesting point i want to mention is that why is that ''Vachan'' called stupid in some corners of the forum..?..

When she gave the vachan did she know that the future will be so bleak.?. And that vachan was a sudden event. She did not had the time of think what implications it could lead to.?. Afterall human do mistakeS and this was done in ignorance.

Let me bring another facet of this so called 'stupid' vachan.

TWICE Jalal was also in a similar situation and he gave PROMINENCE to his vachan.

1. During religion coversion issue, he was ready to LEAVE THE THRONE OF MUGHAL SULTANATE due to his zubaan given at the time of marriage...
So, why did That Zubaan was so important there.?.
The Emperor regarded his Zubaan more than the throne. And we all applauded it. If et all that happened do you think it was a wise decision OF LEAVING THE THRONE..

Anyways for me Jalal's izzat rose as he kept his words there..
That time it was Chisti baba who saved the situation.

2. You remember that Body Heat incident. That time Jodha's life was in danger due to the cold she caught. ?. And body heat was the ONLY solution prescribed by Khwaja Shera.
But here ALSO jalal gave importance to his Zubaan that he will not touch Jodha Begum without her consent DESPITE KNOWING SHE MAY NOT SURVIVE IF HE DID NOT GIVE BODY HEAT.
he still went for 'kaala kapda'...Rofl..
So he gave preferance to Zubaan over her life. Her also i appreciate the high ideals of this man.
HERE DESTINY WAS TO HIS RESCUE.

What i want to say is howcome the Zubaan is so important and is hailed by ALL. and why a vachan becomes so stupid.?.

And add to this, Jodha is still unaware to the turmoil she is going to face..SHE IS BLUNDERING.
But she does not have a hint of Jalal's state of mind. She feels something is amiss due to harem issue.

We all know Jodha will face MUSIC at the hands of Jalal as per promo and that outlash is justified also.
JALAL NEEDS TO VENT OUT.

But why do we forget that NONE of them has spoken up. Jodha cannot open up due to vachan. And Jalal has pre-conceived notions about blaming Jodha.

Whom do i blame.?.
Whom do i support.?.

I feel bad for Both.
Both are victims of circumstances.
I see both of them DEVASTATED DEEP INSIDE..!..




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The following was Ashpat's (ayesha) take::

Hi!

Because of time crunch, I am going paste some of my parts of posts that I had made in your thread, divya and mansi's thread and will add to it.

It looks like Jalal is hurt that he is not able to win Jodha's trust and Jodha will be hurt that Jalal is not trusting her and doubting her according to promo.so either way there is misunderstanding. In this case, neither of them is wrong.

Jodha is already feeling guilty and feeling she is doing "PAAP" by hiding from Jalal. I DO NOT blame JODHA becuase she is vachan -bound and as rajvanshi and mughal she will not break promise of her brother even if it meant harm to her or her relationship with jalal or to her prestige/dignity (jalal and jodha are similar that they upheld their zubaan and vachan even in dire circumstances). But, I DO NOT blame JALAL either because he trusted Jodha and is worried about her and asked her patiently if there is problem. So if he gets mad at her and ask her what is going on then it is understandable as long as it is between them and not public.They can fight inside their hojra and vent their frustrations and bring out passion, anger etc. It looks like it might remain private.

I just hope Jodha does not misunderstand that Jalal is doubting her character and hope jalal tells her that he is not doubting her character but just worried about her safety. I do not want Jodha to be sent to Amer either. Jalal and Jodha needs to learn to solve their problems amongst themselves and neither of them cannot just decide ok she should go to amer whenever a big problem comes up

Due to vachan, Jodha cannot tell Jalal she met sujamal but Moti can save her by telling Jalal or may be Jodha can tell Jalal that person is helping her to find a traitor in palace who is trying to kill her husband but she cannot reveal the name of helper bec she is vachan-bound. Jodha should have told Jalal about all these without revealing Sujamal's name and therefore her vachan would have upheld too and Jalal won't have been hurt too. I believe Jalal will not have force her to reveal the name because he also knows the value of zubaan and vachan.

Or she could tell what you (Adi) said in your post :

"Yes I am troubled by some matter but am unable to share it with you now since I myself do not know or understand what it is. Once I have been able to do so, You will be the first person I will tell' -

OR something like what shraddha said in Divya's post. I am going to quote her. I don't think she will mind quoting her.

One small gesture from her end..one look in the eye... just take his hand in hers with support/empathy/care.. look at him without flinching and say 'I started off doing something...I agree it is against Mughal kaide kanoon, but my intention was not wrong...I'm caught up in a bit of a trouble, but I have some theories and am seeking proof for it (Sujamal's innocence)... I want to get my head cleared a bit before I'll tell it all to you.. but, trust me when I want to say it you'll be the FIRST one I'll confide it all in...just give me a couple of days.. and you'll know what's happening...but, till then just remember this friend will wish you NO wrong and do you no wrong!'

I know why Jalal is not asking Jodha directly about the man because I fear too that she might misunderstand that he is doubting her character. But, if he says this which I had shared in Divya's post:

If he says that MA followed u for safety and when she told me u were meeting a stranger; i thought u were in trouble and someone is putting pressure on u and that is why I followed u for ur safety but could not hear what as going on. Next day, I asked you if there was a problem and if u wanted to share anything but u did not say anything. I waited patiently for u to be open to me but u still did not budge. Do you have any idea how worried I was for u and ur safety and how hurt and upset I was that u won't share me the problem with me as ur friend, husband and emperor. Can you imagine if others had seen you going out alone and meeting stranger then what would happen to ur honor. AS ur husband, I have full faith in u, ur character and loyalty towards me but others might not and that would affect u, me and Sultanat.

If Jalal says this too Jodha, then she will not misunderstand him as that he is doubting her character. But, if she still does then it will be Jodha's fault that she did not believe Jalal.

These two need to know how to communicate properly and openly with each other and selecting words that won't hurt each other and their feelings.

Regarding spoiler I had posted this in Mansi's thread:

I do not have faith in spoilers anymore after Mohan tiger attack that we were supposed to see some scene in jungle or atleast nursing wound scenes in Agra palace but did not get either of them. However,SUPPOSE I assume that the jungle track spolier in telly chakkar was true, then I HOPE Jalal vents his anger of hiding stuff and about safety etc and does not say something that implies doubting her character. Because then what was the point of Jalal saying that he does not doubt her character or of cheating but just worried that she is in dabaav, majboori, khauf and worried about her safety in this last few episodes. CVS BETTER NOT RUIN what they shown in last few episodes about Jalal trusting her immensely. I just don't want Jalal to say something in anger regarding her charatcer after showing so much trust; that would not make sense at all. CVS, please show the Jalal's venting at Jodha properly with correct and meaningful dialogues. I hope they mean it when they say it is 1 and half week track and not lie like they did in Benazir track.

CVS, please wrap this track by end of next week and spare my Akdha and their fans anymore pain and hurt. There better be some nice, happy culmination of this track which should especially include that both have learnt to be open to each other and COMMUNICATE properly. I would also like Jodha to know that despite Jalal finding her with other man; he still trusted her fidelity so she can value Jalal more than before. Hopefully, their love story forward especially from Jodha's side.

P.S. Neither of them are wrong in this case so when I read posts like I am with Jodha or I am with Jalal; I am like comeon when Jalal is saying he trusts Jodha and is worried about her safety and when Jodha is saying she is doing paap by hiding stuff but she is majboor and even Jalal thinks she is in some dabaav, when BOTH of them are worried and doing things FOR each other, then why take sides 😳.But, I understand to each his own. No intention of hurting anyone with this P.S.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Happy Sunday relaxing and watching cricket. India v/s WI match is at 7 p.m. today. Hope we are all happy after watching😃😃😃

I was busy last week so did not get a chance to read lot of threads and I am sure I have missed reading lot of great posts. So everybody please contribute your favorite ones.

Here are my favorite posts from last week

Skanda12 - Mansi's threads are always most read and my ABSOLUTE FAVORITES - her thread is the first one I read next morning

No MU still --- but Jalal now misled
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3956601

Jalal is unable to put a lid on his torture
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3957947



I think this has to be THE BEST POST I HAVE READ ON JALAL and as usual Kmmdesai - Kshithi is superlative in her writing.
Kshithi hope you are back next week after shifting house and setting up everything. Missed you and hope you have written posts on laptop that you will share soon. Love Maddy😃

Jalal shrewd and in control? - by Kmmdesai
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3849621


Just the way you think ... by Reemirocks -lovely post about Jalal
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3952819


Since we got spate of anti-Jodha posts about her behavior last week, even those of us who LOVE BOTH OF THEM had to write to put Jodha's point of view across

Rima4ever has made this thread and it has generated most fierce debate of last week.
I want to mention that I think Rima is THE MOST APPRECIATIVE AND GENEROUS forum member, she never fails to appreciate others threads and always has a complement for good posts. I really cherish her praise always. Rima your thread has generated some super writings and a big 👏 for you.

I THINK ENOUGH IS ENOUGH NOW - by Rima4ever
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3956809

I LOVED the replies to this thread by Cleo12345 from page 4 and history_geek's replies from page 8 (on various pages) and some others. Due to lack of time I have read only few.

Hope you all will share your favorite posts of last week, cos I have certainly missed a lot of them.

Originally posted by: Pals2411

TFS Maddy.😊 BTW, I have not read any of the threads that you have mentioned in your list. I need to read them one by one, to know what all I have missed this week🥱

Originally posted by: happygolucky099

it seems u r busy in stalking🤣

Originally posted by: Pals2411

Look who is talking😆 The biggest stalker in JA forum😆 All you need to do is stalk my profile and see where I am. Not more than 2 threads in a day

Originally posted by: happygolucky099

pallu i was joking dear😆
BTW stalking does not mean u have to post there😉

Originally posted by: Pals2411

😆😆 You know the meaning of stalking better dear😉 I was going to say R_ _ _ _ _ to you, but then thought, I will keep this name for Ela's thread only. Bolu kya ab😃😉