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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

Well said nabiil ...Impractical thinking...Is Jalal such a big fool? Even Jo indicated to Jalal through her eyes that it was Ruku's doings...



When posts are made that Jalal is not aware what Rukayya said to Jodha - I want to ask then what about all the comments about Jalal KNOWS Rukayya inside out and only he can control her etc. etc.
Does Jalal not KNOW why Rukayya joined this trip?
He is absolutely aware it is to keep him away from Jodha, so should Jodha's face not tell him the story?

Diksha has made a very good point - what happened to the common man trip if Jalal let Rukayya get her tent and all fineries?!

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Joja

Mansi I was so upset seeing the episode yesterday and i didnt wanted to login to forum till Monday.
But here i am, I completely agree with you. Though the first part was so good, the last part over took the episode. I esactly felt as you have mentioned below -
If he has not said anything to ruq and sleep eith her even for a while and later goes and stands next to Jodha whole night , i still dont agree. He is not doing right.
The only saving grace for me would be if, on Monday, we find that Jalal has not stayed inside in the khema at all and has spent the whole night outside with Jodha, not sleeping all through the night and just sitting beside the one he loves. But even if he does this grand gesture for Jodha, it is still my feeling that he should at least say something to condemn Ruq's actions before sitting outside with Jodha.
Let's wait for Monday and see if Jalal is vocal with Ruq first and then supportive of Jodha also. I hope that's what will happen!


Joja, what other choice do we have than to wait for Monday chewing all our finger nails?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: prejudiced

Had mixed feelings seeing the precap.

Monday things will be clear but at the outset it seems like Jalaal needs to be a bit more firm when one begum's antics affects the other.
Why would he accept the sleeping arrangement? No one has the guts to overrule his decision. So why couldn't he have put his foot down and said either they all sleep inside or outside.
Jodha's disappointment was clear. Anycase, lets wait n see how the scene plays out. He handled the harem chamber issue beautifully even at the time he was cross with Jodha. So lets see ...precaps could be misleading however we know that Jodha was sleeping out.
Thank god the era of Polygamy is gone!

I hope he says all that at least on Monday episode!😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: baubles

Hello di..I haven't been regular here in the past week, have been busy.

Great post as usual...👍🏼
What I thought about the whole episode was that Jalal knows anything said to Ruqu was not going to help. Him shutting her up would have still never made her see sense, instead her hatred for Jo would have just increased and she would have gotten more adamant and screechy.. so I suppose he was being calm only for that reason...

Ruqu was outright rude as always... for every nice thing Jo did or said to her she had nothing but rudeness to give back..I have no hopes for her really!😵
Jo was lovely throughout the epi..loved her!! ❤️
As for the last part..all Jalal saw was that Jo looked sad about the decision. He didn't hear Ruqu or the convo that took place inside. He can only guess it must be her doing.. so I don't blame him there!

Wish to see him beside Jo the whole night on Monday..that would be the best!!

I am not okay with him just giving silent support to Jodha, I want him to also tell Ruq that such behaviour in indecent and unacceptable!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Bobby13

Mansi, I can see that you were quite upset with Jalal's silence on Friday's episode. I too was little upset initially, but after thinking a while I thought that I should wait till Monday to comment on this.
Also please note that Jalal was not in the room when Ruqu was telling Jodha about the sleeping arrangements. So he does not know that it was Ruqu who asked Jodha to sleep outside. He came inside and saw Jodha going out of the khema telling that she prefer sleeping outside. So he probably thought that she herself wanted to sleep outside. I am not telling this is the actual scenario, but this could be one possibility.
Another aspect is that we have seen how Jalal always gets Ruqu to work in favor of him without telling anything against her. This is the way he has been handling her and he was successful in the past with that. So he will not change the way he handles Ruqu so soon until he is sure that his ways are not being fruitful. If you remember he was treating Ruqu in the similar way during Jodha's birthday, after Taslim track and in many other occations. Ruqu always went from her grey shade to good shade each time Jalal spoke to her in his trademark manner reserved for Ruqu. So I think we should not expect him to change his ways with Ruqu completely and that too so soon. I think he will slowly realize that his mild ways are not working with Ruqu now and then he will reconsider his methods. We should wait and see how the dynamics change between Jalal, Jodha and Ruqu and I am sure they are going to change gradually.

I don't quite agree that he didn't know Ruq had made the sleeping arrangements. Even if Ruq did not say it in front of him, how long will it take a reasonably clever man to see that just two beds are accommodated inside, and Ruq has said he should sleep next to her. What does that imply? Even if Jodha had chosen to voluntarily sleep outside would he not see that there is no bed outside or inside for Jodha ... and her eyes were hurt when she looked at him and said she would sleep outside?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi friends... just now i watched yest's episode properly... beautiful and different than my expectations... and still i got to see what i wanted.. yest when i saw that it was in pieces...not from start to finish, and so couldn't link properly...


anyway... here i m with my take...

to start with the very first scene... Chishti Baba's words seem to affect Jodha more than Jalal... coz we have seen while Jalal accepted his feelings (atleast to himself) when he was sitting near Jo that fateful night, he had said that he wants to spend his remaining life with her... and that's what he wished yest while tying that thread... so SC's words though had made him very happy, still he has already chosen that way for himself... but that's not with Jo... she has startrd falling for him, but was not ready to accept it. She asked for his wishes to be completed, but later when he asks her if she really understand his mind, and she blushes and shies away, i felt , she was thinking and talking abt her being future MUZ ... coz she knows how much he loves kids and that he wants one of his own, and she knows meaning of MUZ, and she too loves kids,, so when she says she knows his wish , means that he wishes them to be parents and that means they have to accept eachother, and her blush saying that she too is now ready (rather eager) for that... and so she feels shy and runs away, coz no way she can tell him directly that she too wants him as he wants her and wants to become mother too... so..

btw, last time when thay had tied the threads at Ajmer, they had tied it seperately, but yest Jo tied her thread on Jalal's and later Jalal ties his thread with her... does it mean their wishes too r going to become one , just like them???

they r enjoying their time together when they spot ruku, and we can clearly see Jalal is not happy to see her... right the way they make pic then, Jalal and Jo standing together in front of Ruku and both there pose was like standing WITH eachother ..facing the rest...

and then after listening Ruku's tantrums for sometime he dismisses her by asking her to first pray and then come to him and then he leaves without giving her one single look...

same while they r talking , Jodha -Jalal r standing by eachother's side facing Ruku together, and after Jo leaves in btw feeling uncomfy by ruku's tantrums, Jalal understands it and tells Ruku in very streight words that she is to follow his wishes if she wants to be with him... have u noticed he says he will be happy if she to joins them, but he never says, HE WANTS Ruku to be with them ... and he leaves once again without another glance towards Ruku... naturally Ruku is pissed off..

later when they walk in the night to that hut, it's both AKdha with eachother and ruku is following them , not Ruku and Jalal walking together and Jo following them.. and when Ruku again starts her cribbing, both smile at it...

then while that man gives him chatai, Jo sits near him without waiting for him to ask hr to sit , neither she asks his permission , she just sits there with the expected right of a wife... and Ruku on the other side wants Jalal to show her , her right to be with him... and it seems Jalal is not liking it... when Jo understand he is hungry and buys the food items and prepares it, he is all praise for her that she is actually buying it, not snatching it showing her queen's rights... ans then when Ruku again complains abt the place being awful, again he says that both of them (AkDha together) r enjoying it... he has now started mentioning them together... i think in his mind the difference btw them is already finished and they r one, and so it has started showing in his actions and his words too...

one more thing, why they went to that hut, while they came back to the tent to sleep? just to have dinner? wouldn't they have got it in the tent only? or if Jo wants to prepare it herself, they could have done it outside the tent, right? what was the need for walking such long distance just for dinner and coming back walking again all the way to sleep? what kind of 'DATE' it was of Jalal with his begums? wasn't it a blooper?

but yes, that dinner scene was indeed beautiful... while cooking Jo is giving ruku lessons abt how to understsnd husband's feelings , his love , Jalal does same while eating... he uses Jo's words (why not ? he was keenly observing his both begums every moment , every action) to tell Ruku abt his feelings.. only behind the spoken words for Ruku, the unsaid feelings were for Jo... and while Ruku refuses to eat at first, Jo supports him just to make the atmosphere a bit relaxed, and says that she will give him company... ( WOW.. so now it's company for both of them...and they r enjoying it... good change)... and he smiles , understanding her mind... happily...ruku's face clearly shows that she understands their now being together ...

and so comes the last scene... Ruku takes one more chance to humiliate Jo... we r shocked to see Jalal not saying a single word when Jo leaves hurt, he just keeps staring at her leaving... we r upset that Jalal didn't say a word to ruku and didn't side with Jo... but is that scene really over?
will Jalal lie down besides Ruku, and then after she is asleep, he will get up and go to Jo and keeps staring at her as shown in precap?

or is precap misleading? means, Jo has left all hurt, and Jalal hasn't said a word... but what if he asks Ruku to sleep and that he will join after sometime as he is not feeling sleepy and then he will go out and stay there watching Jo? and then when he doesn't go to the tent for a long time, Ruku goes out and finds him watching Jo? is it possible, CVs can show it like this?



Diksha, I love, love, love what you have written. I am not in total agreement with you on the last part marked in blue, but even that I fully appreciate your point. We have to see the complete scene on Monday.
But we are at the moment hanging in mid-air over this weekend seeing Ruq getting away with making Jodha sleep outside.
Whatever Jalal may do or not do on Monday and whatever he may say or not say on Monday, in the Friday episode itself Ruq was going step by step from bad to worse. I really felt Jalal could or should have cautioned her in some way.
Anyway I'll wait for Monday (as I myself have written). But if even on Monday Jalal does not say anything to Ruq and merely watches Jodha sleep and sits outside in support of her all night ... if he fails to say something, I know I will feel very upset!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Halimah...

Wow you are awesome 👏 Such great analyses of the episode and I totally agree with you😃.

Hope Jalal stops Ruqs childish behavior soon but first I think he needs to realise what Jodha means to him in his life😊 Even though he admitted to himself while thinking/dreaming that he loves her but he needs to show Jodha and everyone else that he cares truly about her not only because she saved his life but because of his love for her.
Oops too much I have said 😆

Love your comments. Please continue to contribute to my posts, I welcome all opinions!
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Posted: 11 years ago
Why did cv make ruqaiyya join jj 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
awesum post ...agree wid u
ruq is all abt audha n jodha is all abt jalaal ...n dis is d difference wich even jalaal has started noticing
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ Ela

Hi friends... just now i watched yest's episode properly... beautiful and different than my expectations... and still i got to see what i wanted.. yest when i saw that it was in pieces...not from start to finish, and so couldn't link properly...


anyway... here i m with my take...

to start with the very first scene... Chishti Baba's words seem to affect Jodha more than Jalal... coz we have seen while Jalal accepted his feelings (atleast to himself) when he was sitting near Jo that fateful night, he had said that he wants to spend his remaining life with her... and that's what he wished yest while tying that thread... so SC's words though had made him very happy, still he has already chosen that way for himself... but that's not with Jo... she has startrd falling for him, but was not ready to accept it. She asked for his wishes to be completed, but later when he asks her if she really understand his mind, and she blushes and shies away, i felt , she was thinking and talking abt her being future MUZ ... coz she knows how much he loves kids and that he wants one of his own, and she knows meaning of MUZ, and she too loves kids,, so when she says she knows his wish , means that he wishes them to be parents and that means they have to accept eachother, and her blush saying that she too is now ready (rather eager) for that... and so she feels shy and runs away, coz no way she can tell him directly that she too wants him as he wants her and wants to become mother too... so..

btw, last time when thay had tied the threads at Ajmer, they had tied it seperately, but yest Jo tied her thread on Jalal's and later Jalal ties his thread with her... does it mean their wishes too r going to become one , just like them???

they r enjoying their time together when they spot ruku, and we can clearly see Jalal is not happy to see her... right the way they make pic then, Jalal and Jo standing together in front of Ruku and both there pose was like standing WITH eachother ..facing the rest...

and then after listening Ruku's tantrums for sometime he dismisses her by asking her to first pray and then come to him and then he leaves without giving her one single look...

same while they r talking , Jodha -Jalal r standing by eachother's side facing Ruku together, and after Jo leaves in btw feeling uncomfy by ruku's tantrums, Jalal understands it and tells Ruku in very streight words that she is to follow his wishes if she wants to be with him... have u noticed he says he will be happy if she to joins them, but he never says, HE WANTS Ruku to be with them ... and he leaves once again without another glance towards Ruku... naturally Ruku is pissed off..
Diksha he clearly says" Hume bahut accha lalega...kyonki aap humari sab se acchi dost hain..."

Yes Ela, i have written that he said he will be happy if she joins them . i m saying he never said he wants her. there is a difference...coz if he wanted her, he could have agreed to her conditions... and here he is putting conditions...


later when they walk in the night to that hut, it's both AKdha with eachother and ruku is following them , not Ruku and Jalal walking together and Jo following them.. and when Ruku again starts her cribbing, both smile at it...

then while that man gives him chatai, Jo sits near him without waiting for him to ask hr to sit , neither she asks his permission , she just sits there with the expected right of a wife... and Ruku on the other side wants Jalal to show her , her right to be with him... and it seems Jalal is not liking it...

Jala didn't seem to mind it al all that Ruku was asking to sit by his side...

why should he? first, she is his best friend from childhood... then she is his first wife... why should he mind if she sits besides him? i think it's natural for a wife to sit beside her husband... if Jo is still hesitating, then we can't blame Ruku for her wifely actions, just coz we want to see only Jodha with Jalal...


when Jo understand he is hungry and buys the food items and prepares it, he is all praise for her that she is actually buying it, not snatching it showing her queen's rights... ans then when Ruku again complains abt the place being awful, again he says that both of them (AkDha together) r enjoying it... he has now started mentioning them together... i think in his mind the difference btw them is already finished and they r one, and so it has started showing in his actions and his words too...
May I know what actions are you talking abt?

his actions means he has started considering them (him and Jodha) as a couple and twice in the episode he mentions it to Ruku that they (AkDha) r enjoying the trip


one more thing, why they went to that hut, while they came back to the tent to sleep? just to have dinner? wouldn't they have got it in the tent only? or if Jo wants to prepare it herself, they could have done it outside the tent, right? what was the need for walking such long distance just for dinner and coming back walking again all the way to sleep? what kind of 'DATE' it was of Jalal with his begums? wasn't it a blooper?
I think Jalal told Ruku that she will have to accompany him as an aam admi but still Ruku choose to put the tent...He should have scolded her there only if he was so pakka in his words...Instead he asked Ruku where they are going to sleep?

i ll say Ela, let the scene get over first... coz if he sleeps besides Ruku , ignoring the fact that Jo is alone outside in the cold, then even i ll be disappointed... so i want to wait to see his reaction, only then i will like to be happy or disappointed...and if he sleeps besides Ruku , without asking abt Jo's decision, then i ll surely want to slap him...


but yes, that dinner scene was indeed beautiful... while cooking Jo is giving ruku lessons abt how to understsnd husband's feelings , his love , Jalal does same while eating... he uses Jo's words (why not ? he was keenly observing his both begums every moment , every action) to tell Ruku abt his feelings.. only behind the spoken words for Ruku, the unsaid feelings were for Jo... and while Ruku refuses to eat at first, Jo supports him just to make the atmosphere a bit relaxed, and says that she will give him company... ( WOW.. so now it's company for both of them...and they r enjoying it... good change)... and he smiles , understanding her mind... happily...ruku's face clearly shows that she understands their now being together ...

and so comes the last scene... Ruku takes one more chance to humiliate Jo... we r shocked to see Jalal not saying a single word when Jo leaves hurt, he just keeps staring at her leaving... we r upset that Jalal didn't say a word to ruku and didn't side with Jo... but is that scene really over?
will Jalal lie down besides Ruku, and then after she is asleep, he will get up and go to Jo and keeps staring at her as shown in precap?
Yes that scene is over actually...

Let's wait with good hopes


or is precap misleading? means, Jo has left all hurt, and Jalal hasn't said a word... but what if he asks Ruku to sleep and that he will join after sometime as he is not feeling sleepy and then he will go out and stay there watching Jo? and then when he doesn't go to the tent for a long time, Ruku goes out and finds him watching Jo? is it possible, CVs can show it like this?


Even if he does that , it is not enough...It will only make Ruku more vicious towards Jodha...He will have to nip Ruku's viciousness in the begining only...

ya... but Jalal won't insult Ruku directly... not right now... he is talking to her sharpely sometimes, is enought right now... afterall their relationship is different and older one than his with Jo..

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