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@Arieltabi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#351

Originally posted by: Donjas

The only option left may be for everyone to resign from this forum and join a new forum.

Another forum? How can we be sure there isn't any rule like th
Btw can't we make a closed group in fb. Just to discuss about history.
But this forum was the best place. I dont know who r those people who r reporting his post 😡

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Sindhu Menon

@SindhuMenon

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#352

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Another forum? How can we be sure there isn't any rule like th
Btw can't we make a closed group in fb. Just to discuss about history.
But this forum was the best place. I dont know who r those people who r reporting his post 😡

I agree. if u gyus start up something in FB pls PM me also. I love reading posts from Abhay. Liz and other friends who help him to make such wonderful informative posts.

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Sindhu Menon

@SindhuMenon

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#353

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi All,
It's really great to see so many people are now interested in the REAL scenario of JA saga...😊 and are by now disillusioned by the "J-Nama" arrays...😃
Rest assured Abhay (along with us) too misses u all and his passion a lot..😊...Only one correction , exam definitely is ONE of the reasons he is not here ..but NOT the MAIN one for sure...
As i said earlier also in another thread,His passion for digging out reality of JA is so great that No exam can bind him so tight as to be so much absent from here...😳

Unfortunately ,the "newly developed etiquette" prescribed in the Forum hinders him and his team from answering and discussing the things the way we used to do earlier.🥱

Hence , can't share the pieces of valuable info about the present track or the coming ones that have been dug up by us and We are equally disheartened as you all are.

Let's hope for the Best.😊

Regards,
Kamal

How sad. I want to know more kamal. What can we do. I have been requesting the Mods as well.

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Tabassum

@Arieltabi

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#354

@Sindhu do u have to bring this topic in everything. Pls first get the difference between bashing and criticising. Stop calling every post bashing and everyone basher. Bashing is much worse than this. U guys haven't seen bashing that's why. Pls stop using this word in every post in every topic. .

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Sindhu Menon

@SindhuMenon

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#355

Originally posted by: Arieltabi
@Sindhu do u have to bring this topic in everything. Pls first get the difference between bashing and criticising. Stop calling every post bashing and everyone basher. Bashing is much worse than this. U guys haven't seen bashing that's why. Pls stop using this word in every post in every topic. .

sorry If made a mistake in typing. I did not call this bashing at all.

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AbHer_neha

@AbHer_neha

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#356

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Another forum? How can we be sure there isn't any rule like th
Btw can't we make a closed group in fb. Just to discuss about history.
But this forum was the best place. I dont know who r those people who r reporting his post 😡

But why to leave the forum. We can discuss it in the sticky thread on historical discussion.

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myviewprem

@myviewprem

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#357

Now in serial Akbar hates Sher Shah Suri but in real life both were brother in laws

Surprised then read below

Akbar was uncle to Maharana Pratap in relation

Even more shocking

Bhagwan Das and Akbar were married to sisters

If that is surprising then read below

Mahmud Shah ( son of Bahadur Shah of Gujarat whom Humayun defeated after Karnavati, Pratap's grand mother sent a rakhi asking help) is Akbar's brother-in-law

Haji Khan ruler of ajmer (yes the same person who gave stiff resistence to Akbar) was also in relation Akbar's brother in law

So how did 4 of Akbar's biggest enemies become his brother-in-laws or nephew in relation?

Because of one king of marwar- Rao Maldeo. If you watch Maharana Pratap on sony you can see him as marwar's king. This king was more shrewd than even Raja Bharamal and gave his daughters in marriage to every possible enemy of his. Indeed he was irst Rajputh king before Bharamal to give his daughter to a muslim invader/ruler

Mahmudh Shah married Kanakavti Lal baiji Shaiba

Sher Shah Suri married Sri Lalji Baiji Sahiba

Rukmavati his youngest daughter married Akbar

Phool Kanwar his grand daughter married Maharana Pratap

Rukmavati and Phool were same age although aunty and niece. Indeed phool was elder to Rukmavati

Ratnavati Lal Baiji Sahiba married Haji Khan

Dugravati Lal Baiji Sahiba married Bhagwan Das

So he married his daughters to all possible kings like afghans, uzbeks, mughals, mewar rajpuths, ajmer ruler etc

So these relations did not stop anyone of the in-laws from continuing their enemity.

If all this confusing relationships was not enough Hira Kunwari was aunty to Phool Bhaisa, Mahrana Pratap's wife(because one of her sister had married a son of Rao Maldeo) and Phool Bhaisa's brother's daughter was Jehangir's third wife and Khurram aka Shah Jahan mother Jagat Gosain aka Jodh Bai. Jodh Bai father Mota Raja Udai Singh was grandson of Rao Maldeo

So Salim aka Jehangir becomes nephew from Hira's side(mother side) to Phool and Pratap and nephew-in-law from Jodh Bai's side(wife side)

Shah Jahan becomes grandson to Phool Baisa and Pratap and nephew to their two sons.

Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago

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disha

@disha15

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#358

Hely,yes,please do go through history geek's posts to clarify ur doubt :)

And guys its okay,everyone is free to ask their doubts. As far as the shows staying true to history,none of the shows are doing justice in showcasing the greatness of either of the kings.

Akbar is being be shown in the worst possible light in both shows for that matter. A love sick puppy in one and an obsessed(almost psychotic) lover in the other.

In JA,the focus should have been on his achievements alongside his love story with Jodha.

P.S : Saw the new promo with Jodha doing yudh ka yalgaar with mirchi powder and stuff.

My question:Where is Akbar?

Edited by The.Patthaaka. - 11 years ago

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myviewprem

@myviewprem

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#359

Originally posted by: rima4ever
interesting and shocking facts

yep rao maldeo had married his daughters to many more uzbeg, afghan, rajputh rulers, mughal etc but i uploaded only few important ones. I had updated this on MP forum long back thought will update here too.

Poor girls what will they do when their husbands fight in war

If husband wins sister may become widow if brother in law wins they become widowww

All because of father who is using them as some barter to stall enemies

And Sher Shah Suri was 50's when he married a 15 year old daughter of Rao Maldeo and she became widow within a year

Akbar was in 40s when he married a teenage Rukmavati Bai

Haji Khan was in 40s when he married Rao Maldeo teenage daughter

Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago

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Cleo12345

@Cleo12345

Navigator

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#360

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi All,
It's really great to see so many people are now interested in the REAL scenario of JA saga...😊 and are by now disillusioned by the "J-Nama" arrays...😃
Rest assured Abhay (along with us) too misses u all and his passion a lot..😊...Only one correction , exam definitely is ONE of the reasons he is not here ..but NOT the MAIN one for sure...
As i said earlier also in another thread,His passion for digging out reality of JA is so great that No exam can bind him so tight as to be so much absent from here...😳

Unfortunately ,the "newly developed etiquette" prescribed in the Forum hinders him and his team from answering and discussing the things the way we used to do earlier.🥱

Hence , can't share the pieces of valuable info about the present track or the coming ones that have been dug up by us and We are equally disheartened as you all are.

Let's hope for the Best.😊

Regards,
Kamal

We as readers are very disheartened Kamal...the fall in forum activity and rank immediately after Abhay's threads were closed reflects that...can we do or say anything to convince you and Abhay to start posting again? most of the forum friends I communicate with are very unhappy with the " newly developed etiquette"...this show is based on history...this is a naatkiye roopanter ( dramatization ) and not a kaalpnik ( fictional) show...even the disclaimer says that...they are using real names, real events, real places...no one can take the history element out of this show...if a handful of members didnt like his threads, then all daily threads should be closed first( more people dislike the content posted on some of those threads...if the heated discussions are any indication of that) ...Abhay's threads were the most civil threads on this forum. They attracted a lot of intellectuals to this forum...Rules are made for the convenience of members and I am sure that this is what the mods were aiming for...but they too are human and don't have a crystal ball...unless we tell them that we are missing the history discussions, they won't know. Let us try and do that before giving up on the forum. 😊

Edited by Cleo12345 - 11 years ago

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