Maham-Adham versus Jodha-Jalal! - Page 12

Originally posted by: elasingh

Jaya beautifully written...👏

Mansi I dont think Jalal's faith in MA is too shaken...Maham has crossed an invisible line when she questioned shehenshah why she was not involved in his decision making but I think Jallu will let it pass...

Maham will get in troble when she plots against Jodha and is caught...as the spoilers are claiming...From there will be down side for her...

i think, Adham's end is near.. hope Ekta won't stretch it beyond limit

Yesterday episode was ok. MA-Jalaal scene was good. MA knows how to push Jalaal emotionally, and get back what she wanted Jalaal to consult her in every matter. Jalaal still has some doubts, which Ruqu has planted on Subedar issue.

Why Jodha warned Adham, she will report Tasneem matter to Jalaal, did she thought, adham will afraid of Jalaal ? She should have directly gone to Jalaal and reported it. MA surely supporting his son, as she knew Adam lust for the small girl.

MA wants to play check mate with Jodha and Ruqu. I would definetly want Jodha-Ruqu become a team and show the true intentions of MA to Jalaal with proves. With Jodha alone can't do it. She is very transperant and MA can guess Jodha thinking while Ruqu is smart before MA and she knows how to playt and prove her guilty before Jalaal.

Will wait to see why Jodha is says no Ghirna to Jalaal . Did he asked her or why she is telling she trust him ? So Adham is not guilty ?

Originally posted by: akdha

hi Mansi , really great post and energetic conversations.👏 1 thing that i felt when i saw the precap was, i heard as if she was saying, wo jo hum he, ki aapsese pyar karne lage hai😃, instead of vishwas. i know, that i started becoming mad of hearing some good romantic words from her. So i think myself that she will say this someday😳

Originally posted by: elasingh

Jaya beautifully written...👏

Mansi I dont think Jalal's faith in MA is too shaken...Maham has crossed an invisible line when she questioned shehenshah why she was not involved in his decision making but I think Jallu will let it pass...

Maham will get in troble when she plots against Jodha and is caught...as the spoilers are claiming...From there will be down side for her...

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

i think, Adham's end is near.. hope Ekta won't stretch it beyond limit

Originally posted by: deejagi

Though we see only 4 + 1 people on the major scale, we have 2 passive contributors to this episode and the happenings. Yes you read it right, Jodha, Jalal, Maham, Adham and Tasneem. The 2 passive contributors are Ruqaiaya & Salima Begum.

Jodha is upset that Adham Khan Is manhandling Tasneem and her parents are passive to revolt as they have been given money(which they were deprived off). So she wanted to teach him a lesson and also get him punished for eyeing an innocent small girl. But how will she get him punished?

Jodha can't bring in the matter of of Tasneem not willing to marry adham: The simple reason there was no scope for the acceptance of the bride when the parents were ready ith the proposal. Even in case of Jodha, nobody asked her willingness for the marriage and she had to accept the marriage and live with it despite her hatred towards Jalal. So the rule will not change for a king and a subhedhar.

Shehahnsha was already all ready to face his wajir-e-aliya but was really surprised when Resham came instead. Once he was aware of the content of the latter, he wsted no time but with determination, he just walked upto the waiting MA. He knew he had triggered a wrong nerve and wanted to know the exact one so that he can be cautious the next time. The irony was that he told her that he is not there as a shehansha but as her son Jalal (way to smoothen an irked lady jalal) and immediately asked her what wsa the necessity to send a letter, instaed you could have summoned me. She is much smarter than you badshah, she was the one who taught you many diplomatic issues... She talks n an undertone mentioning now that you are grown up to take care of your personal and political issues ithout my guidance, I think it is time for me to march towards Mecca to pray for your well-being. Now that you have taken major decisions without consulting me, be it personal issue like Jodha & bakshi's case or political issue like Subhdhari...

Jalal just said I didn't want to trouble you where I could take the decision without troubling you but if you really feel that I ignored you, please take it as an assurance that you will be consulted in future. The thing to be pondered over is that "he didn't apologize to her for his doings but only said she will get her dues henceforth. That was one reason he gave her the chance to decide the case of Adham (he mut have been aware that he can't punish Adham in this case as it would have been a practice to use Bandhi's by the officers in those days) also to test Maham's claim that she will not care even if it is her son who is the accused...

Maham was not angry with Adham for lusting a girl but because he was lusting a daasi... and that too by crossing Jodha Begum's way. She knew what happened to Shareef who waged war against Jodha and now if Adham also has to face the same fate, she was not ready for that.

She not only was targeting Jodha & ruqaiya but also targeting Jalal & Salima as well.

Jodha had waged war directly (she knows MA's secret about MC track) whereas Ruqaiya had ridiculed her foresight and saved Jodha from her suicidal act thre by bringing her back to Agra. Ruqaiya has also advised Jalal not to appoint Adham in place of Shareefuddin as he doesn't take the responsibility properly (eg. Though he was the subhedhar of Malwa, he stays in Agra more than Malwa). Salim begum refused to go with her plan when MA advised her to accompany Jalal to ajmer Dargah instead suggested Jodha will be the better person. She wants to teach a lesson to Jalal for listening to these ladies and ignoring MA.

He supported Jodha and went with her to the village like a peasant on his birthday and didn't give her an hint on that till the people came to the palace to thank him. (She had been stopping those people to approach him directly while Jodha took him to them to their place only and now he has learnt a lesson to love people. If he gets the peoples love, where is the chance for her son to enthrone the Mughal Sultanate?

Ruqaiya not only ridiculed her idea of Jodha coming close to Jalal but also advised Jalal Jalal against her that though MA loves Jalal, her first priority will always be Adham (which is true). Despite Jalal talked in favour of MA, he went ahead in Subhedar issue without consulting MA which is a big blow to her. Not fare Jalal, I didn't feed you milk just for nothing n dyou will have to pay for your this mistake.

Salima didn't even give her few moments but also trashed her advise to join Jalal to Ajmer Dargah and to get the blessings for the waaris and suggested that Jodha would be the better person to go and get the blessings. Over and above that she was the one to help Jalal in unearthing the real culprit in Jodha's case and helped him to stand firm on his decision to support Jodha in the time of crisis. If not for Salima Begum, Jodha would have been out of Agra and out of Jalal's life.

She hates Jalal for giving importance to these ladies and ignoring her, the one who saved him from death when he was a child and none of these ladies were there for him.

So Maham wasted n time the moment she heard about the next days court Marshal for Adahm. She knew her son is blind with lust and unless she provide him that girl, he will not think straight and might talk rubbish in the court nd get beheaded. So she thought fast and advised him what to talk in the court the next day which will shut all and sundry's mouth and se can have a victory grin over Jodha, Ruqaiya and even Jalal.

She was aiming for the Mughal throne for her son but it is not possible to win it the right ay and the other way is to demoralize Jalal for his incapability to be a father. She thought with her words, she & her son can get away with the Tasneem's case unhurt. Least did she knew that withthat they have pulled the tiger's tail and stepped on the serpent's tail and also enraged the bull by dangling the red cloth in front of its eyes.

The dialogues between Jodha & Adham were so funny and yet disgusting to see that lust written all over Adham's face. Hwen he talked that he can do anything to tasneem as she is a daasi, I felt like why no one kicked him in the right spot.

Here Jodha looked like a child telling her rebellious classmate that she will complain to the class teacher and The Adham was like, go ahead and do that. Least you know is that the principal is my mom. So the class teacher cannot even think of punishing me. Poor Jodha almost had tears of helplessness. And when she called him as a beast, looked like he felt it as a praising for him being horny.

Jodha he is after Tasneem only because she is a lady otherwise he would not have cared for her.

When a determined and angry Jodha entered Jala's room, he was shocked but thank god he didn't rip off his hair in despair. Poor Guy, to pacify Ruqaiya and also since he found her reasoning valid, he left out Adham while distributing Subhdharis. To refrain MA from leaving the post of Awazir-e-Aliya, he gve her his word to consult her in future. Now he is facing an enraged Jodha, what will he do to console and convince thislady? He must be cursing his luck for dumping all the anoki ladies in his folds...

However Jodha didn't waste any time with beating the bush and she directly jumped into the fact that Adham is intolerable these days and he is not even sparing daasi's of your palace...

Poor guy, what if he had done that mistake earlier? However he listened to her patiently and then ordered the guard to inform Adham to face the court martial the next day... May be he was upset because Adham didn't care for him and his Badi ammi's ijjath and not for the issue of the girl in question.

One thing I am not convinced with Jodha's policy. Why she has not learnt a lesson from her previous experience with MA in ruqu's MC track? Instead of revealing the entire story to Jlal and there by he issuing an order to Adham to face the Court martial next day, she could have just asked Jalal to call for the Diwan-e -khas and put forthher case directly in the court. Then Neither MA nor Adham had time to hatch a conspiring drama of this marriage for the Waaris...

Here Adham not only talked about his love for Tasneem but also said her parents are wiling for this marriage of convenience. How will Jodha or Jalal prove that it is wrong when Jodha & Jalal's wedding was one of the convenience marriage where Jodha had hated the very word Jalal and even went to the level to burn the dress sent by him? If Adham is the culprit now, then Jalal is also a culprit... If Tasneem's parents are termed as greedy then so were Raja Bharamal & his family because they got more in the bargain... Atleast Adham is openly telling that he is marrying for the love and want of a child where as Jalal has a 3 failed marriages in one, the lady can't sustain her pregnancy (might put in in such a way that it sounds like barren), the other is happy with the memories of her previous marriage and the third one is still a virgin? So indirectly they are questioning Jalal's capacity & capability.

I can't talk about Prem as none of our protagonists are aware of this word and the antagonist is claiming that for a daasi. Jalal must be thinking what is wrong with me when a creep like Adham can claim to love a daasi, why can't I love my beautiful begums? And his begums will start thinking atleast one of of the 3 should love their shehanshah and tell that creature what is love

Originally posted by: abhi786

Yesterday episode was ok. MA-Jalaal scene was good. MA knows how to push Jalaal emotionally, and get back what she wanted Jalaal to consult her in every matter. Jalaal still has some doubts, which Ruqu has planted on Subedar issue.

Why Jodha warned Adham, she will report Tasneem matter to Jalaal, did she thought, adham will afraid of Jalaal ? She should have directly gone to Jalaal and reported it. MA surely supporting his son, as she knew Adam lust for the small girl.

MA wants to play check mate with Jodha and Ruqu. I would definetly want Jodha-Ruqu become a team and show the true intentions of MA to Jalaal with proves. With Jodha alone can't do it. She is very transperant and MA can guess Jodha thinking while Ruqu is smart before MA and she knows how to playt and prove her guilty before Jalaal.

Will wait to see why Jodha is says no Ghirna to Jalaal . Did he asked her or why she is telling she trust him ? So Adham is not guilty ?

Originally posted by: deejagi

Yes, it is not that easy to lose his faith in his Badi Ammi who had facedthe bullets for him and taken his side whenever an outside attack (like in the case of Amulvis claiming him to climb down etc) and acted as his shield. She had cried wit him and laughed with him and he is not yeta aware of the depth of her charecter and he might not believe in her harming him even if hse openly confess unless he hets asolid proof.