22nd Nov JA-JO 'Who says you don't have a heart, my dear Shehenshah?' - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
i think the cv's come here to read the questions we have,that is why the pre cap...if jodha is jalal's soulmate then what kind of love does ruku have for jalal,is he more of a shehenshah or even if she loses her position in his life,will she still love him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


Soumya beautiful write up sweetie...AGREE WITH EVERYTHING you've written there...it was beautifully played out!👏
I think the moment that stood out for me today was Jodha's tears (not Jalal's) when he gave that speech - it was a mighty acknowledgement of being touched by her husband
stupid couple nor is he heartless nor is she ghrinaing him
why can't they just stop with this and kiss each other😆

How I wish di...there have been so many instances when I've wanted Jalal to kiss Jo and shut her mouth,he just never does it😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles

How I wish di...there have been so many instances when I've wanted Jalal to kiss Jo and shut her mouth,he just never does it😆

Maybe someone from here would like to show them a demo first 🤣
Jo will not be in the least bit jealous though - she'll start asking 'fir ye kaunse waali pyaar hai...hamein thodaa gyaan deejiye...'
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Posted: 11 years ago
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di.. I thought that you would obviously make a post on this epi, and here it is..😊..very nice write up.
I liked the epi very much, the way he entered in the DEK was different from other days, as grief stricken , indeed, and the look he gave BB , his eyes were soo full of pain.one could easily see,😭

but the scene remains with me is the last scene, Rajat nailed it , excellent speech, and it's notable that he stated the truth but didn't state that BB is behind it to his subjects.He stated it only in DEK..

one thing amazed me in that scene, that only Jodha and maham were so moved and touched with his words, and pain that was in his voice that they couldn't hold their tears. And no other I found to shed a drop of tear in his sorrow, neither his BFF nor his ammijan, it states what a strong emotional bonding maham and Jalal shares and eventually JJ will share that too in future,.It amazed me seeing Jodha in tear, it showed she has started feel for jalal and his pain touched her this time..

oh what a relief , see what nice epis we are getting once the track is over. Please Cvs , we can bear overdose of emotions but not mental torture..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very well said Pallo..
but look closely in the last scene Ruqs was crying...
MA's tears were more obvious
and Jo's tears absolutely TOUCHED me...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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CVs thik toh hai naa Lashy ??😲 ek ke baad ek dhamakedaar emotional roller-costar wala epis derahe hai ! pinch me !🤪
Today I cried a lot...first in JJ scene...second in the speech scene.😭

u r right about Jodha forgiving BB issue...it actually doesn't make sense...she shouldn't..like u said what if BB starts supporting Sharifuddin and forgets all these ever happened to her ? what if she has no realization ? khair...I guess Jodha understands BB's heart hence this decision...waise I agree with HB "aaj ek bhai ke saamne Shehenshah ki shikast hui" varna Jalal kabhi Jodha ko decision lene ke liye nahi kehta..kyukii kahin na kahin Jalal ke mann mein tha Jodha might forgive BB.😊

Jalal walked in Jodha's chamber with a question on his mind..why did she ? Jodha explained it well..Jalal couldn't stop his tears to fall..Jodha notices and explains it so beautifully..."agar rishta nahi hota toh yeh aansu kyu?" aww Jalal..he is busy in hiding his face...kitna dil toota uska...😭 dialogue of the scene "jhooth bolte hai aap...sabse jhooth bolte hai ke aapke paas hriday nahi hai...parantu agar hriday nahi hota toh yeh aansu nahi atey"...👏 yes Jodha will wipe his tears eventually...she will be there for him...I'm happy no one but she understood Jalal has a heart which bleeds when his own people back-stab him.👍🏼

He once again proved what Jodha is for him...he is ready to take the blame/taunts on himself to restore her reputation...he is out there in front of his subjects and performing his duty as Shehenshah and as a husband...yes his heart is bleeding...something piercing it every second...but he is the emperor...he has to be strong...Jodha's tears !! finally Jalal's nakchadi Begum started shedding happy tears for her Jallad Shehenshah...kal bhi aaj bhi...she is a proud Begum now.

P.S. I loved MA today...yes she does love Jalal...in her own peculiar way...but she does😛
btw MA, aapne bhi toh Jalal ko rulaya jab uske unborn baby ko maardala...kya aap aapne aapko maf karsakti hai ?😛
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


Soumya beautiful write up sweetie...AGREE WITH EVERYTHING you've written there...it was beautifully played out!👏
I think the moment that stood out for me today was Jodha's tears (not Jalal's) when he gave that speech - it was a mighty acknowledgement of being touched by her husband
stupid couple nor is he heartless nor is she ghrinaing him
why can't they just stop with this and kiss each other😆

GHRINAING!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

I was not planning to do an analysis today - but, the episode was such that I couldn't hold back- and its turned out longer than usual! So that says it for the episode!👏 What was there NOT to like today? Mashallah!😃

COURT
Badshah Jalal-ud-din Mohammed announcement with the Mughal music in the background always makes me sit up in awe - only this time the man that walked in was not a majestic king - pagdi on head - shamsheer on side. It was a man weighed down by grief, by betrayal AND by the harsh reminder that he was NO closer to becoming a father!
The brief glare between Jalal and BB as he stepped towards his throne was a beautifully executed silent version of 'You too Brutus'

He couldn't get himself to punish her and within the rights of his law, he granted Jodha the right to do so.
Jodha's initial points at court made absolute reason 'She has committed a crime and she should definitely be punished for it...BB's crimes were graver since she was one of our own...'
However, her following statement that 'Your punishment is that I forgave you...' does not hold good as far as I'm concerned.😊
True, she did state that the worst punishment for a family member is 'living-with-the-guilt' bit. However, if Shareef were to return and BB reunited with him in future - all this guilt shall vanish in no time and they'd get back to perpetrating grave mistakes. Besides, letting a criminal go scot-free sets a needless precedent for other closer members to continue committing crimes. What if the person who did the crimes had no sense of guilt at all?
Anyway, I'm glad Jodha was at least stern when referring to BB.

The most beautiful aspects of Jodha's speech were not the punishment bit itself, but hearing words of praise that held mighty hints of 'apnaapan' in them. She referred to Jalal's position/place in his family twice - when she spoke about the wrath he endured from HB and when he referred to him as 'pitaa-samaan' i.e. 'father-like brother'! This is a major step in her (not just understanding) but acknowledging Jalal's relationships with his family and the amount of emotions he invests in them! [Aka - a form of track progression *ting ting*😃]

Jalal, though shocked - accepts the punishment in court to keep up his word

'Even though Jodha Begum has forgiven her, I cannot do so...I absolve all ties with Bakshi Bano' he announces thereafter 'She is my sister no longer!'

JODHA-MOTHI
A happy Mothi and a happy Jodha makes for a happy viewer!😃
JALAL-JODHA
'Often, you approach me with questions...today I come here with a question' he asked her grimly - looking down. The very fact that now the balances had been titled the other way up!

'What makes you happier...forgiving her or punishing her?' she asks
'A question doesn't answer another question' he retaliates angrily

Thereafter, Jodha goes on to explain - like an adorable student all about the various nuances of love - a lesson, she'd barely learnt yesterday and in which she's quite a novice herself!😆
Anyway, the light-hearted music and the semi-convinced expressions on Jalal's face as his Begum went on about the 'purity' of love between two lovers was noteworthy! Not because, it made sense in lieu of BB's case -in fact, it made NO sense whatsoever justifying BB's stance by giving it the explanation of 'love' - but, that Jodha had acknowledged such love existed and it was something she was alien to!😊

'When I met her I pitied her and was jealous too!' Jodha mutters. An already-confused Jalal looks up in alarm!
Jodha, even speeches on love you give with such needlepoint accuracy...when are you going to drop off your nerdy glasses and let yourself be swept away by the passions and emotions it brings along!

When Jalal tries refuting Jodha's love-waala claims with the fact that relationships play no part in meting justice - he couldn't meet eyes with her even for a second. The extent of hurt all this betrayal had given him was paramount and yet, we could see he couldn't get himself to speak or wish ill of his own sister.

'She hurt me, but I've forgiven her ...why can't you do so?' Jodha questions him.
However, she wouldn't realize that the agony is far far more when YOUR VERY OWN brings it upon you. Sweetheart, do you remember how far you'd been hurt when your own mother refused to take you back to Amer - that, she'd done for your own good. Here, BB's deeds were unadulterated betrayal and nothing less!

Again, the most beautiful lines out of all this had to be -

'I've already punished her...I've broken all ties with her'
'If words were enough to break ties, we both would be having NO relationship now WHATSOEVER!' [Awww 😳 So our very much not-in-love couple do acknowledge they have a relationship as of now - even if its of hatred?]

The observation of 'tears' sitting at the brink of his eyes brought about another revelation from her end -
'You're such a liar Shehenshah...if you had no heart, then why would you have tears in your eyes'
And that line was ended with the slightest hint of a blush. This scene has given me the confidence that when Jalal is in for his next major heartbreak, Jodha will be there by his side to comfort him - none else!

JALAL'S SPEECH
'Why will my head hang in shame? I've done no wrong...I've only saved an innocent from a criminal...people may empathize or taunt me...but, I wouldn't let Jodha Begum be made a mockery of!' he explains to MA before announcing his decision to make the speech

Had I been able to do it, I'd have given these lines and his execution a standing ovation!👏

For starters, this was a different scene to any I've seen so far- so, the novelty factor itself gave it brownie points!
Watching an Emperor make a public announcement to clarify the issues going on in the palace - to quell gossip and thus stop defamation of his family - was awe-inspiring!
After all, the subjects would have been eager to hear news of waaris too - in a convoluted way, their lives depended on it! Therefore, Jalal coming forth to tell them the truth - though difficult - made absolute sense!

The words in the speech and the convincing expressions with which he stated them actually made me forget that all this was actually about body-heat and blue-vomit in the first place! It was so realistic and touching!

Two other highlights of this scene had to be
1) MA's self-talk in sympathy of Jalal
2) Jodha's evident pride - her tears of happiness at the fact that her husband had come out of the grief to spread his arms out to his subjects and accept them as his children!

PRECAP
OMG I'm dying to hear Ruqaiyya's answers to Jodha's questions here!


@Bold

Me too!!
Ruqu just likes to shut people up if she has no answer to their questions. I thought some sense knocked into her head after all this, but no..she is where she was earlier. Jodha has learned something and began understanding Jalal and stopped hating him. Ruqu continues to roam in her dream-world.😆 I have always felt that Ruqu loves Jalal's status as emporer but not himself completely. If they were commoners, I doubt if she would have loved him as much. Looking at her character: arrogance and self-pride, Jalal would have had a hard time with her if he were a commoner.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Excellent analysis of the episode.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thanks alot for a nice epi analysis dear 🤗
an awsome epi ⭐️ 👏 just love jodha jalal scene ❤️ there expressions there dialouges just amazing 👏 & jalal speech at the end 👏 you describe all things beautifuly don't getting what to add more 😳
i am too excited for the monday epi 😛
million dollar question 😲 😆 will ruku answer the questions of jodha ❓

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