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Originally posted by: skanda12
Phew! Jyoti, thank God you have told this out now I can start breathing! Waise you called me at 5.30 am or 6 am I think ... and after that you have forgotten to mention that I sent you about one dozen SMS asking every square inch detail about Rajat, till your plane was on take off!
Oh yess how can I forget those SMSes asking me about his height , body structure , etc etc etc 😉😆😛..it was crazy .. early morning we were texting each other about Rajat tokas 😆😆Yesterday's episode showed the Jalal who has already started feeling a great deal for Jodha. In that very first scene itself see what he told the Hakim : "You are to blame. You have given wrong diagnosis of pregnancy when I have not even touched my wife so far. The poor girl was repeatedly saying she is innocent but your diagnosis made me suspect her of an affair. You have given her mental torture."
If he could say that to the Hakim, see, folks, how far he has already come to feeling what Jodha is feeling! He has already more than absolved her of any affair, even before the antidote.
I agree , he is really started to care for his wife like a genuine husband now and was mad at that hakim for wrong diagnosis which resulted in Jodha going through so much of turmoil .. its almost like he could feel her pain now 😳The gift was one of the most beautiful I have seen on Indian TV serials. Even I was shocked that the Creatives had applied so much mind to it!As for Jalal, I loved the way he leaned over later in the celebrations and asked "How did you like the gift?" and she too replied a very genuine and sincere thanks! See how happy his face was!
Yup .. it was a sweet and simple convo between the two before the pregnency storm happened .. Jalal was like a little kid there desperately waiting for Jodha to praise it since he knew she will 😉😳One thing I must say is that so far, whether we criticise them or not, the Creatives have done a reasonably good job. They have every fifteen days or so introduced a track which gives the story a twist and sets up the TRPs, so we cannot complain that this track is not too good or that one is OK. They too have to do whatever it takes for TRPs.I am very glad though that this pregnancy track is not a kind of replica of the miscarriage track. Here Jalal is taking the lead and solving things ... and the solving of Jodha ka pregnancy has come first and later he may catch the culprit and the scandal mongers next week, which is OK by me. I didn't want Jodha's situation to be hanging with too much mental torture for her and for us!But yes this track will bring them closer - it already has if I were to go by yesterday's episode. They need to give words to the feelings they already are feeling that they know the other person is innocent, that's what remains!
I agree that this pregnency track is diff from earlier one and also quite interesting too but at the same time I feel CVs at times hv a habit of taking things a bit too extreme and making a mockeryy of it which I feel they should avoid in future .. this time too there was no need to involve Maham and whole harem with this rumour thing .. it could hv remained between Jalal-Jodha-Hamida-Salima mayb and then Jalal could hv secretly investigated the matter 🤔
I buy this point totally that Jodha should deal directly with Jalal rather than vent to Moti ... but I would also prefer actually that neither Jodha nor Jalal will need to tell anybody anything about their private lives.See my theory is that when they both realise that what they are feeling for each other is precious, they themselves will stop sharing this info with others - since people want to keep what is very precious close to themselves and not make it public property. It signifies a slight lack of depth when people tell about their private matters to others.Now I feel Jalal has stopped telling Ruq everything of late (which he used to earlier) because that is a sure sanket that he has started to value what is exclusive to him and Jodha as precious ... whereas she (Jodha) has not reached that awareness of her feelings for Jalal as yet, so she is still blabbering stuff to Moti.One of the tests of whether Jodha has started to feel deeply for Jalal would be if she too stopped sharing information about Jalal to Moti.
I guess in Jalal's case he understood that Ruqaiyya is insecure when it comes to his harem begums unlike Salima and so he seeks advice from the later and mayb slowly slowly he will start talking directly to Jodha .. Coming to Jodha , I feel first she got to accept in her mind fully that Jalal is her husband and then only she can share everything with him ... Jalal did accept Jodha is his wife fully now but Jodha is yet to do the same
I loved today's(friday's) tarazu scene too ... but I m unable to understand the symbolism of this scene 🤔 ...So will wait for various interpretations in forum 😃
Okay here is my feeble attempt at the tarazu symbolism ...If I look at the rings symbolism, it starts for me from her birthday itself (which is the day this pregnancy diagnosis also came). There in her birthday koodaadaan ceremony, Jalal found that he needed to add his ring to match her weight. (That was a different ring which was given for charity, but nevertheless, for symbolism sake, we have to see that he put a ring there to match her weight.) It looked at that time to me like he was "completing her" ... by matching her weight.Later, she in anger took out her wedding ring and gave it to him (or rather placed it on the tarazu plate) whereby she signalled that since he was reducing her integrity, she herself would take off the ring as symbol of reduction of herself by him! She was "incompleting" herself.He was then seen in many scenes as holding that ring in his hands and thinking about it, by which I presume he was asking himself "Was I right in reducing her thus?"Yesterday after the Hakim gave an antidote and he also lied to everyone about it being his baby, he felt the peace that comes from making a decision that Jodha needs his help. He puts her ring on one side of the tarazu, and then counterweighs that in perfect balance again with his own ring - like saying "You were reduced (incompleted), but I am adding back what I took away from you! You are completed again by me."In the precap he is then seen returning her ring to her, maybe after the antidote has proved she is not pregnant, and he says "You cannot break some bandhans by putting them on tarazu to weigh their value. The tarazu is for insaaf, and not for weighing of something of this kind of value."In other words, after seeing that he can complete here, he realises that the fault was not about her reduction or completion at all, it was about the intrinsic value of something - some bandhan - that should never have been put on the tarazu at all in the first place!As he says, the tarazu is for justice, but this issue should never have come up for justice at all. Mistrust made it a weighable issue, but if that trust were there, then why the tarazu, why her ring on the tarazu, and why his ring to counterbalance?There, how's my symbolism Jyoti? Have I improved in the last seven or eight years?
Mansi thats a wonderful symbolism 👏👏.. I too felt something similar but I knew u will put it in better words than me ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ .. I only remembered his one dialogue there regarding the right justice that needs to b done before they weigh whats is right and what is wrong on that tarazu ... I wonder if Jodha will take that ring back ,.. it might remain like that in the tarazu till Jalal brings out the real truth and then mayb Jodha on her own will pick up that ring from the tarazu , remember his words and will wear that ring to close the whole Tarazu loop that was opened with her birthday ...
Tarazu overall also indicates their up and down relationship in a way .. they r never on same level and always try to compete with each other when they should b together competing against their enemy .. I guess that too Jalal meant yesterday when he returned back the ring and told her the importance of that tarazu indirectly .. he wanted to mean they both should b together concentrating on proper justice being done first before weighing who is right and who is wrong 😉In a strange way, Jyoti, it is interesting that the question of pregnancy has come up in this track - as a track we may all be saying why are these Creatives forever obsessed with words like "miscarriage, womb, pregnancy, sleeping arrangements" etc.But this pregnancy hits at the very remaining gap between them and starkly brings out the one point of serious contention between them. Jodha is still unready for physical relations with him. And this whole track will at least make her face the fact that this issue cannot forever remain on the back burner. It has to be faced and a solution found - because they are husband and wife already! She cannot hope to eternally avoid a relationship with him.
If Jodha gets to that stage of thinking at least - accepting that this fact has to be faced - then this track would have evolved her to a great extent. She is now in some La la land that for always she can hope to stay a virgin just because the marriage was not of her choosing.But that cannot happen, she is married, there will be every day the strain of not having physical relations with a man who seems as if he wants it. She cannot spent every day for the rest of her life worrying "Will he ask me for it or not!" and try to stay eternally on guard ready to pounce on him!Hope she will realise at the end of this track that she cannot win this war!
Mansi I got a feeling that her main issue is not physical relation .. she knows at one point in her life she had to accept the physical relation with her husband .. but I guess her main issue is Jalal taking advantage of her unconscious condition and doing it with her which is what she has assumed after the pregnency news and that is where she feels humiliated as a woman ...
But I agree that this is actually the trigger point which will make Jodha seriously think how long can she run away from the obvious .. she is his wife afterall and forever she cannot remain untouched .. it will later start raising serious question on her as a woman thenIn the last week Ruq has made me swing back and forth ... first I saw her as arrogant when she though Jalal was hers for the beckoning and she could make him wait for her. Then I saw her as jealous of Jodha when she accosted Jodha. Then again when she refused to tamper with the child and hit Hoshiyaar, I saw her in a new light. But yesterday when she again started picking a fight with Salima, because Salima had become Jalal's new confidante, I saw Ruq regress a bit.She is a young girl, and her immaturity is showing more than anything else. Right now its all about whether she is Jalal's friend and confidante or not. She even says "Sleep with Jodha, but let me know about it." She resents Salima as a confidante.
But when Jalal starts offering his love to Jodha and seeks Salima for her superior quality advice, then what will Ruq want for herself?I now see her losing Jalal's heart to Jodha and Jalal's mind to Salima! Because Salima, with her seniority and experience is better qualified on mental matters than Ruq to give wise advice! Yestrday Jalal himself told Salima: "I could not talk to Ruq as even if she wants, she does not have the depth to understand!"That is what has changed from yesterday! Ruq is losing both Jalal's heart and mind!
Ruqaiyya is actually a kid still trapped in a adult's body ... she treats Jalal like her toy boy with which only she can play as per her whims and fancies or else she throws a fit 😆😆 ... But she dont really hv a evil or destructive mind like Maham ...That was a beautiful scene, Jyoti. I still have my doubts that Jalal was not only imagining himself in place of that man,, he was also imagining his own thoughts as that man's dialogues! Maybe that's my wishful thinking ...But see, even if the dialogues about his mohabbat were belonging to that man and not Jalal, at least when Jalal later remembers this dispute he will see that the core issue there was about "love". The man loved the woman and hence felt cheated that she didn't love him back. Jalal will see that aspect in connection with his own life at least when he later goes over this episode in calmness?
Yess .. the point is Jalal did get hurt and affected ... earlier too one of his begum cheated on him .. that time he was plain angry but was not hurt or affected emotionally .. so this itself proves that he has feelings for Jodha already and so could connect with that husband-wife jodi ..I too think Bakshi was mixing the antidote after seeing Sharif contaminate the sherbet given too Jodha on the birthday!I wrote a post yesterday that one aspect of Bakshi is good, she is not herself venomous and she is keen to undo Sharif's bad work, perhaps.
But just because she doesn't want second widowhood, she cannot let Sharif off the hook all the time. Granted in those days the life of a widow was thousand times worse that the life of any woman (which was itself bad) but Bakshi has to stop being an "enabler" to Sharif.It is not enough if she just tries to undo what Sharif is doing. She has to expose Sharif at some point! Because if she doesn't she herself is an accomplice to crime. He is not like Adham, an idiot. He is an out and out criminal with an evil longterm intention to dethrone Jalal and harm Jodha!
I guess she is just one of those helpless woman who dont want to loose her hubby for second time but at same time cannot see her hubby comitting such sin with her own brother's wife .. she is trying to save both sides desperately ..
She'll get there Jyoti, very soon! How long can the Creatives keep Jodha on ghrna mode? I feel that after this current track some new phase of their relationship may start since we have already seen the "friendly banter" phase, now something else has to happen after better trust is built!(A note to the Creative: Other TV serials are all started showing kissing scenes! When are you going to start? You have gone as far as a "suspected baby" but you are hesitating on a kissing scene? C'mon, give us one soon! Or you want other serials to get your TRPs just by out-kissing your characters?)
I agree .. if not kiss , at least show few accidental hugs na 😛😛 ... we r yet to get first JA hug and its more than 100 epis 😭😭
I hope my friends on the forum are happy that I made this note to the Creatives?
Thats it from me ... looking forward to all your reviews and comments on this week's episodes
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