Jodha Akbar 99: Of the birds and bees and butparasti - Page 8

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Posted: 11 years ago
#71
Well, my dear, I have covered the abysmal track record of Atgah Khan in my next post, and as for the mole, I think it was Sharifuddin.

Yes, I too miss Abdul a lot. I cannot understand why they cut the character out.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: loveanime

The problem is not atgha khan. The problem is after every crisis event Jalal turns to atgha khan like a pre written script when we all know he can't do squat. There are not that many villains exclusively plotting, it is either cheapo or dandham or maham. None of these characters will get caught any time soon, so poor atgha has to bear the mantle world's worst investigator for the sake of drama.

I am glad that in the show today we find adaham or maham didn't do anything. Oh there is hope another villain behind the scenes we don't know of yet, could be cheapo who knows.
On a side note does anyone else miss abdul. I also miss Bairam Khan he was a good character. From a historical point of view he had to go but since the show is fiction I wish they kept him alive. We need more political controversial characters.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#72
Sonia my dear, why on earth would I be affronted by differences of opinion? Perish the thought!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sonia_1

Thanks Shyamala Ji😊

I try not to be harsh on anyone. 😃 In Ruqs case , I see her for who she is ...a childhood friend of Jalal and his chief Begum...all her actions are geared towards protecting her own interests and position...if you recall she has lied to Jalal in Moti-AK case and also during Bairam-Ma episode...I would hate to call that love for Jalal its more of manipulating and dominating him ! She got quite a jhatka today. 😆

As for Hamida, I absolutely love her .🤗 Jalal and Hamida share a very complex relationship...will not even try to make sense of it. I guess its something sacred between a mother and a son...inexplicable. 😃

Jalal -Jodha...I signed up for their love story and am happy to accompany them on this journey...I try not to let excess baggage bother me.😆
Please pardon the affront.🤗

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you, Sonia, and my Deepavali resolution, to stop critiquing Jodha, is meant to achieve the same happy state of mind!😉

The resolution of the body heat conundrum today was so ludicrous in terms of either logic or simple physics that it did a lot to restore my mood. Do see my response to Kamal above if you have the time.

As for Ruqaiya, you are too harsh on her. I do not agree with the facile explanation that she is simply defending her own interests that are tied to Jalal. She attaches top priority to Jalal's takht because she is a Mughal princess and she has seen all the terrors and upheavals he has been thru, and thus sees the paramount need for him to retain the throne. But as Alakh says, she is his childhood friend and she loves him in her own fashion. That cannot be denied.

To revert, Hamida Banu says the same to Jodha after the tiger attack, when Jalal is at death's door. She never seems to be mourning the likely death of her son then, does she?She only voices fear for what will happen to the sultanate if the Shahenshah dies. So how, using the same logic, would you interpret those statements by Hamida? Obviously that she cares nothing for Jalal as her son, but only for the Emperor.

Jodha has seen nothing of any kind of hardship in her life, except when Amer is threatened by Sharifuddin. So, by the same token, if and when Jodha tries to protect Jalal in the future, one could argue similarly that it would be because his continuance in power is vital for Amer's survival.

That would not be true, and neither is it true that Ruqaiya's fears for Jalal are motivated solely by her self interest. Or Hamida's for that matter.

I would like it if Jodha some day graduated to the same level of sharpness in defending Jalal's interests in Agra, and not thinking all the time about her maayka. There was a flash of it when she spoke up against the Rat King to her family, but it was a flash in the pan.

Shyamala



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Posted: 11 years ago
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hooly u write so much!!!! um since u like writig do mind if you do an esszy for me?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74
funny episode:
1 letter from the chisti and the kazis immediately were all smiles and agreeable. there should have been at least one kazi who should have said, are you kidding me?! in islam it is unacceptable to bow your head to any other except for allah, and insisted on this point. that would have shown up how serious religion was treated and what importance it was to Jalaludin in his efforts to rule over peoples with religions and philosophies different from islam. it would also have led naturally to jalal and jodha's attempts to do this together and thus bring them together and move this love story forward.

jodha begum praying to krishna about him helping her to escape the conversion. right - nothing about what a horrible thing that jalal's abdication would have been for her husband, her ammijan, sasural, agra, hindustan, rahim, and amer. it was only about krishna helping her only.

then the black cloth conserving body heat nonsense - sounds like black witchcraft to me 😆




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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ red. Absolutely. She is terminally self centred. But then, why blame Jodha alone - she is after all a small town girl and an outsider to the Mughal regime, when

1) Jalal thinks nothing of abandoning the awaam who should be his first concern for his personal self-indulgent pride in keeping his zubaan and
2) Hamida Banu says Jalal ki siyasat Jalal jaane par Mughal sultanate ne zubaan di thi aur woh barkarar rahegi?

Do see my post that I will be putting up shortly on the assured consequences of an abdication by Jalal.

As for the ulema, it was all very filmy.

Shyamala B. Cowsik

Originally posted by: september12

funny episode:

1 letter from the chisti and the kazis immediately were all smiles and agreeable. there should have been at least one kazi who should have said, are you kidding me?! in islam it is unacceptable to bow your head to any other except for allah, and insisted on this point. that would have shown up how serious religion was treated and what importance it was to Jalaludin in his efforts to rule over peoples with religions and philosophies different from islam. it would also have led naturally to jalal and jodha's attempts to do this together and thus bring them together and move this love story forward.

jodha begum praying to krishna about him helping her to escape the conversion. right - nothing about what a horrible thing that jalal's abdication would have been for her husband, her ammijan, sasural, agra, hindustan, rahim, and amer. it was only about krishna helping her only.

then the black cloth conserving body heat nonsense - sounds like black witchcraft to me 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#76
Sorry, my dear, I write only for myself, never for others.

But perhaps if you read my pieces carefully, it might help you with your essays, for many young friends here tell me they wish I had been their English teacher. Undoubtedly they meant that reading me helped them with their English grammar, syntax and even spelling. It is of course for you to judge which of these, if any, is relevant for you.

Plus, as it seems that your attention span is rather short, reading my posts regularly would also help improve that, which will stand you in good stead in the future. Best of luck.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: LOVE_DMG

hooly u write so much!!!! um since u like writig do mind if you do an esszy for me?

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Looks like its cheapo.. and he is smart.. he himself doesn't say a word against Jalal infront of him.

But there were only 2 people in the temple other than Ja Jo.. one daasi and the pandit..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Looks like its cheapo.. and he is smart.. he himself doesn't say a word against Jalal infront of him.

But there were only 2 people in the temple other than Ja Jo.. one daasi and the pandit..


But he was in Amer. everyone knew that Jalal went to the Kaali Maa Mandir.

He obviously leaked it. & the news was such he knew it would spread faster than fire!

It's a fore-gone conclusion that Shirffu is smarter than Adham.

Though that isn't saying much at all. 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais


But he was in Amer. everyone knew that Jalal went to the Kaali Maa Mandir.

He obviously leaked it. & the news was such he knew it would spread faster than fire!

It's a fore-gone conclusion that Shirffu is smarter than Adham.

Though that isn't saying much at all. 🤣


But no one else knew about the maatha tekna dear.. Not even Maham. She scolded Joe for taking him to the temple but said nothing about maatha tekna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


But no one else knew about the maatha tekna dear.. Not even Maham. She scolded Joe for taking him to the temple but said nothing about maatha tekna.


But then there wrere others there. From the pandit to the daasis. The news was sensational so it must've spread. And Shirffu pounced on it & informed the ulemaas. Nothing else makes sense.

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