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Posted: 11 years ago
I believe I speak for everyone who watches Jodha Akbar when I say this, their mood swings have been giving us whiplashes, and not in the good way. There's still so much distrust and negativity latent in their new found camaraderie or whatever you call the intermittent flirting and pseudo-humorous moments that it is exasperating to watch. One moment you are half-naked in front of her, and the next, you revert to the same disbelief that you've always harbored. And, today's episode was just the cherry on the top. Jalal, as an Emperor, a leader who is supposed to be impartial and equitable, should have looked more into the matter at hand, apropos of the claims that were made, by the groom's family and also by Jodha Begum.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Arey don't be angry.. yeh lo jhappi🤗

I don't understand why Jalal is in a hurry to leave... Seems like he feels awful and therefore wants to avoid it.. as he doesn't think the situation can be fixed. But Hamida really made sense today.. she is neithertrusting Shareefu nor the Rat king. But what evidence can be collected.. I just don't understand this.

He is hurting Jodha yaar...Jodha cann't get any evidance other then BB...but yes if Jallu over heard their talk then something can happen...

How rude MA was to HB? She was insulting her and becoz Jallu doesn't care for his mother...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

He is hurting Jodha yaar...Jodha can't get any evidance other then BB...but yes if Jallu over heard their talk then something can happen...

How rude MA was to HB? She was insulting her and becoz Jallu doesn't care for his mother...


Yep.. but the way she said was like Hamdia can't say anything.. while herself totally backing out.. I can't disobey shehanshah.. I'm just a mere servant. Never mind she put the thought in his head.

But Hamida is stubborn..I'm NOT everyone.. I'm his mother.

After her talk with Bakshi.. Jodha won't do anything either. She now sees herself in the same boat. Sukanya versus Bakshi. She presented her case infront of Jalal because she did not realize it may mean death for Shareefuddin. Jalal knows that, so he is trying to trust him, for his sister. Its not that he blindly trusts him.Plus, logically Shareef lying like that doesn't make any sense. Why should he trust the Rat king? How much does he know them? Ashareef has never come under jalal's suspicion.. Another thing is that in his greed.. the rat king did not confirm with jalal..

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Posted: 11 years ago
Res😛 - Unres😛- I am sorry for my late post Aunty... I only saw the episode now and it is only now that I feel it is fair to put my comments to this wonderful analysis. When I had first seen the part when Jalal had called Jodha 'his' Begum I, like most of the people in this forum had indeed gotten very happy. I thought it was a move forward in their relationship but then I realised that you are right (as usual aunty😆) that she is in fact 'his'... there would be no reason to refer to her in any other way. I think your post is spot-on as usual but the part that got me intrigued the most was that you feel that Jodha needs more voice-overs? I personally feel she talks too much😆 The problem is not that we can't understand her because she doesn't have adequate voice-overs but it's the CVs who put her moods on a see-saw of inconsistent irregularity. Now Jalal I feel needs more voice-overs. I feel we never get to hear enough about his psyche or how his past has affected him and the way he makes his decisions. I understand he has a heart and emotions despite the fact that he denies it but what motivates him to take the steps that he does? Feel free to disagree aunty😳😳😳
Another nice point I loved in your post was when you brought up the fact that Jodha went against her family and saved Abdul. You are right in that Jalal and Jodha are following their personal sets of morals and values and each from their standpoint is not wrong.
Thank you for the wonderful post Aunty👏👏👏 And thank you for pming me the link for your new thread😳... I will comment on that once I see the episode😛 And you are right... Sukanya's future husband looks like a Ratouille character😆😆😆... Thank you Aunty🤗
Edited by Az3003 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Tell me one thing, Ela. YOU say the groom's party is being absolutely honest, but how would Jalal know that? He thinks they are lying, and let us not trot out the Rajvanshis never lie nonsense. They have lied often enough, from the days of Jaichand downwards. I cannot understand why the Rajputs protest against this serial, which glorifies them far more than history warrants.

It is not that Jalal trusts Sharifuddin blindly, whatever he might say to Jodha. It is rather that he cannot see what he would stand to gain from such a charade, as he says to Hamida Banu. At first sight, no rational person would be able to understand WHY Sharifuddin would want to take such a risk for no visible gain. It is the same with Jalal. He is absolutely logical in what he says to his mother.

In fact, I too found it very strange that he is doing it merely to take revenge on the Amer royals, plus damaging the Jalal-Jodha relationship, but at a very great risk to himself if ever he should be found out.

Secondly, the way in which Jodha handles the saboot part in front of Jalal is a carbon copy of the rank ineptitude with which she handles the Rahim aur dature ke ark ki dibbi affair. Drag an unprepared and frightened witness in front of the Shahenshah without any warning and expect them to tell the truth.

Next, what IS the truth to which she wants Bakhsi Banu to testify? Jodha only hears Sharifuddin say to his wife Sab wapas aa jayega. She has NOT heard him say Jab shaadi hi nahin hogi to which preceded it. So how does she conclude that Bakshi Banu is privy to Sharifuddin's fraud?

Finally, knowing Jalal's temper and his swiftness to punish brutally, she should have been able to guess that he would execute Sharifuddin on the spot for defrauding him in such a disgraceful manner. She should thus have anticipated that Bakshi Banu would be what is called in legal parlance a hostile witness.

But then Jodha neither has any imagination, nor the ability to put herself in the shoes of another and try to visualise that person's likely reaction. Which is why she always comes a cropper.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: elasingh

Shyamala unlike the forum , I wont give clean chit to Jallu...😆..And Jalal should behave like a Shehenshah instead of running away like coward...The groom party are being absolutely honest...In thoses days if a baarat went back without bride , then it was extremely diffficult to find another groom for Sukanya and BM will loose all respect in his clan( what ever is left)...Jalaal should understand gravity of situation...
O course the groom cann't talk to his father...these are medheival times and parents made all decision regarding marriage...



Originally posted by: sashashyam

Aha, my dearest Ela!! I KNEW you would say that.

If Jalal is convinced that Sharifuddin crooked him on this fort question, I think he will offer the fort to the Rat King. At that point, the Rat Prince may find his voice and get his father, now that their nak has been saved, to give it back.

But the question is this: how is Jalal to be convinced that Sharifuddin has lied? It is too soon for this to be exposed and Sharifuddin to be exiled. And there is no way Bakshi Banu is going to reveal the truth. Or will she?

@bold.
Not so much for our Dostana duo, Adham and Sharifuddin. But I found his assertion on Friday that Sharifuddin (leaving aside his Badiammi) could not lie because he had always prayed fo Jalal's welfare quite nutty. Why not just say that he trusted him?

Shyamala

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Posted: 11 years ago
@bold, so what is new?😉

Alakh, my sweet, if I had read your eminently sensible arguments, I need not have done an even longer one to Ela, who is not going to be convinced even if you and I and all of us try our hand at it. In contrast to Darcy, she is determined to be displeased with Jalal!😉

But do take a look at my post above, especially the part about Jodha's remarkably inept courtroom tactics.

Shyamala Aunty


Yep.. but the way she said was like Hamdia can't say anything.. while herself totally backing out.. I can't disobey shehanshah.. I'm just a mere servant. Never mind she put the thought in his head.

But Hamida is stubborn..I'm NOT everyone.. I'm his mother.

After her talk with Bakshi.. Jodha won't do anything either. She now sees herself in the same boat. Sukanya versus Bakshi. She presented her case infront of Jalal because she did not realize it may mean death for Shareefuddin. Jalal knows that, so he is trying to trust him, for his sister. Its not that he blindly trusts him.Plus, logically Shareef lying like that doesn't make any sense. Why should he trust the Rat king? How much does he know them? Ashareef has never come under jalal's suspicion.. Another thing is that in his greed.. the rat king did not confirm with jalal..

QUOTE=elasingh]
He is hurting Jodha yaar...Jodha can't get any evidance other then BB...but yes if Jallu over heard their talk then something can happen...

How rude MA was to HB? She was insulting her and becoz Jallu doesn't care for his mother...

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Arey don't be angry.. yeh lo jhappi🤗

I don't understand why Jalal is in a hurry to leave... Seems like he feels awful and therefore wants to avoid it.. as he doesn't think the situation can be fixed. But Hamida really made sense today.. she is
neithertrusting Shareefu nor the Rat king. But what evidence can be collected.. I just don't understand this.




Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
@bold. How would he do that? It is one man's word, his brother-in-law's, against the two others, for there are no other witnesses, and he does not know the Rat King and his son as people at all. And in contrast with Adham,whom he does not trust at all, right now he has no reason to distrust Sharifuddin. Plus he cannot understand either what he would stand to gain from such a dangerous fraud. No one would.

As for Jodha, he thinks she is a prejudiced party and is cooking this up to get him to hand over the durg. After all, just 2 days ago, she told him it did not matter to her if anything happened to him provided it did not happen in Amer and jeopardise her sister's marriage. When this is the extent of her caring for his life in comparison with this wedding, why would he think that she would not implicate Sharifuddin to get the marriage back on the rails?

This is where her affirmation in the precap is excellent tactics. It will get him to move and try and work out something far more than any accusation could. She shows that at a pinch, she will take his side, and that will touch him more than any of her hectoring him earlier. His face in the last shot is a study in puzzlement: he is trying hard to decipher this new Jodha Begum.

If you have the time, do take a look at my response to Ela on the prepage.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: awstika

I believe I speak for everyone who watches Jodha Akbar when I say this, their mood swings have been giving us whiplashes, and not in the good way. There's still so much distrust and negativity latent in their new found camaraderie or whatever you call the intermittent flirting and pseudo-humorous moments that it is exasperating to watch. One moment you are half-naked in front of her, and the next, you revert to the same disbelief that you've always harbored. And, today's episode was just the cherry on the top. Jalal, as an Emperor, a leader who is supposed to be impartial and equitable, should have looked more into the matter at hand, apropos of the claims that were made, by the groom's family and also by Jodha Begum.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Whatever her reason for it, Jodha's affirmation in the precap is excellent tactics. It will get Jalal to move and try and work out something far more than any accusation could.

She shows that at a pinch, she will take his side because he is her husband and she his wife (till now, the one has not really followed from the other), and that will touch him more than any of her hectoring him earlier.

His face in the last shot is a study in puzzlement: he is trying hard to decipher this new Jodha Begum.
Rajat still has the power to surprise me; that shot was mindblowing.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

I know Hence, the tears.

It can only be Bakshi or Sukanya & B's tearful "Hume baawaa phir se nahin banana" moved Jodha a lot.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Well, I am glad that at least you girls remember that. The rest of the forum has whitewashed that statement of Jodha's long ago, aided and abetted by Jalal doing a Salman-lite at the nritya and then the Govinda-lite immediately thereafter.

It was a very harsh, cruel, unfeeling and totally selfish thing to say. Mansi tried to justify it by quoting what Jalal told her after he rescued her from the suicide attempt, but of course she carefully omitted the Ajmer Sharif part, the Mohan incident when he said not a word to blame her, and the Kali Mandir part, all of which were post-suicide attempt and which should have produced a paradigm shift in her attitude towards him. Alas, nothing of that was in evidence last Wednesday.

I am not going to forgive her that just because she said, for once, mein Shahenshah ke saat hun. Lashy, do see my response to Ela 2 pages or so back.

Good night, my chipmunks and the rest of the gang.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Super Kool


That was plain bad...

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Not like. I love you all.And who says that Aamir has no sense of humour? He is not like Jodha, after all.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


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