12th September - The lioness roars back - and what a roar it was! - Page 3

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jodha... Jodha... Jodha... Woman! 👏 She blasted him with the right words... Finally! I was getting waiting to see this scene for a long time.😆😆 Finally after a long time i would say a step forward in Akbar's character. It was so necessary! Jalal was acting like a child, throwing tantrums. He had to realize that he is a emperor, and being one, he had moral obligations to fulfill, which is not merely passing out judgement on a matter based on what he thinks and feels. Jalal calling the minister and asking for advice, is a symbol that Jodha is already making her mark on him.
I dont understand Rukaiya. When it was implied that Jodha was a culprit, she was quick to blame her and spurred Jalal to punish her... then she goes out of her way to investigate, and now, when the bottle was found in Salima's drawer, she believes her sister did it! 😕 Why is she misleading him... on one hand i would want to appreciate her, and in the next i dont know why but i want to shake her like a can of soda!😆

Javedaa-MA scene was such a filler, I tell you!😆 Apart from Jodha Hameeda Banu, i like this saas bahu duo.

P.S.- I hope Salima and Jalal dont turn on the heat tomorrow, i watch the show with my parents.😆😳




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wonderful post Lashy!!!
While Jodha said "hamara dharm hume aapko haaye dene ki izzazat nahi deta" but the way she reprimanded Jalal was nothing short of humiliation for a emperor, which in those days was absolutely unacceptable indeed. And the last line was the limit - Aap se haath jorkrar hum veenti karte hain aap yeha se chale jayiye". Can't imagine anybody would have dared to tell the shahenshah to leave.
I absolutely loved Paridhi in the scene and for that matter I am also all for girl power but since its a 16th century show, Cvs should be a little bit more careful in terms of dialogues atleast.

And yes, Javeda was like fresh breeze of air in the episode. Absolutely adored her. But then I was left wondering why didn't MA go to the open court.
Edited by rimi10 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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outstanding performances by the lead yet again! i agree that jodha was angry and had the guts to spit out the venom of hatred, unlikely for a 16th century woman to do, but there were women of honor in those days too, look at jhansi ki rani, then noor jahan who used to run the whole kingdom from behind a pardah because jahangir was drunk most of the times..out of the whole episode i did not understand one thing, the disappearance of MA from the main court sabha at dewaane khaas! where was she, throwing sarcastic remarks on her dil😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks Ashpat and Pouloumi 🤗...I totally agree that Jodha should stand for herself...I hate heroines who don't do so (and there seems to be an abundance of those these days) however, I only wish her manner of addressing him was different (I don't necessarily mean softer) but possibly more restrained...Ruqaiyya, is an enigma altogether pouloumi...

Rimi I totally agree with you...🤗

As for the rest of the scenes they were all well directed...and played their own parts in the episode
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@lashy!

Fabulous write up!👏


I agree with you that such reaction from a queen of 16th century was a bit OTT but what I felt amusing is that Jodha is reacting to Jalal so emotionally and putting logic and to some extent, even ethics in the back burner.😉

First of all -
she accused Jalal for mistreating her and not trusting her but there were times when she insulted him and formed opinions about him without knowing the exact reality. 😉


Secondly,
when did she plead not guilty "repeatedly" to Shahanshah? She and her brothers decided to stand like a tree rather than screaming or pleading not guilty.😕

Thirdly and most importantly - Why does Jodha demand that Jalal should ignore all the crucial evidence against them and would only trust her?

I mean - what has she done to win his trust? She has always clearly stated how much she hates Jalal...now when the evidence was against her it was natural for Jalal to believe in the evidence and not her.

If she would have been in Jalal's place she would have done the same...in fact she has already done that in the past.

Jalal's prompt decision to burn Jodha and her brothers was TOTALLY wrong as he was not giving them the chance to prove themselves. But he did give the chance and his decision to attack Sujanpur was not completely personal.

If the fiasco hadn't happened may be he would have warned the Sujanpur party instead of waging war so quickly, but Sujanpur had their share of flaws too.
Even then, Sujanpur folks could have saved their skin by sending messenger to Jalal and surrendering the dacoits to the Mughals. Instead they flouted all the rules of war and attacked them at night.

I just hope that Salima's approach to this situation would be more logical and objective. Her readiness to spend time with Jalal showed that she listens to her head than her heart. She knows that at one point or the other both husband and wife have to respect each other's demands...Jalal has given her everything she wanted till date...now it's her turn.

Similarly, she would understand the root cause of Jalal's suspicion and his accusations. Like Jodha, she too had never tried to build up any relation with Jalal and in fact showed openly how she loves BK even now. It was natural for Jalal to suspect her because they do not have that bonding so as to ignore the evidence provided and trust Salima blindly.

To see a situation objectively, one needs to have intelligence and detachment from the situation or person involved which Jodha does not have. ( i am talking about detachment to the person involved, not intellect😉)


Hamida- Jodha scene - I found irritating. Hamida is constantly harping that JAlal is angry and only looked at the evidence instead of trusting Jodha's declaration - are aunty ji - why would Jalal ignore all the evidence and will blindly trust jodha? 😕Does mumma dear know her son's relationship with her fav. bahu? 🤔


Edited by doyelpakhi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@doyelpakhi
Thanks yaar 😳

First of all - she accused Jalal for mistreating her and not trusting her but there were times when she insulted him and formed opinions about him without knowing the exact reality. Secondly, when did she plead not guilty "repeatedly" to Shahanshah? She and her brothers decided to stand like a tree rather than screaming or pleading not guilty. Thirdly and most importantly - Why does Jodha demand that Jalal should ignore all the crucial evidence against them and would only trust her?
ALL your above points are true...😊

Jalal's prompt decision to burn Jodha and her brothers was TOTALLY wrong as he was not giving them the chance to prove themselves. But he did give the chance and his decision to attack Sujanpur was not completely personal.
I totally agree with you here too😃

If the fiasco hadn't happened may be he would have warned the Sujanpur party instead of waging war so quickly, but Sujanpur had their share of flaws too. Even then, Sujanpur folks could have saved their skin by sending messenger to Jalal and surrendering the dacoits to the Mughals. Instead they flouted all the rules of war and attacked them at night.
👏

I just hope that Salima's approach to this situation would be more logical and objective. Her readiness to spend time with Jalal showed that she listens to her head than her heart. She knows that at one point or the other both husband and wife have to respect each other's demands...Jalal has given her everything she wanted till date...now it's her turn.
Wow excellent summing up from her standpoint😃😃

Similarly, she would understand the root cause of Jalal's suspicion and his accusations. Like Jodha, she too had never tried to build up any relation with Jalal and in fact showed openly how she loves BK even now. It was natural for Jalal to suspect her because they do not have that bonding so as to ignore the evidence provided and trust Salima blindly.
Hmmm I think he is weighing the situation before jumping the bandwagon now...

Hamida- Jodha scene - I found irritating. Hamida is constantly harping that JAlal is angry and only looked at the evidence instead of trusting Jodha's declaration - are aunty ji - why would Jalal ignore all the evidence and will blindly trust jodha? 😕Does mumma dear know her son's relationship with her fav. bahu? 🤔
auntyji 🤣Even I am finding their relationship a bit OTT

Thanks dear...😳

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