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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for the PM Aunty Smile

Once again a marvellous post with superb detailing Smile

loved the headings and the explanations, agree, Salima na hoti toh pata nahi yeh MU kab tak chalta Wink

Ekta's team is defo doing a good job..and me feels had it not been for Shaguni Bai and Salim Chisti Baba, Jo-Ja history would never have even existed bounce God Bless these two Razz

@The quality of caring: Its absolutely bang ON!!! awesome explanation

@Aggressive Biwi--I was almost laughing at this pati-patni nok jhok...so endearing and yes as u have pointed out Rajat was a bit OTT in that shot

@Precap: I cant take off my mind from this uber sexy couple Wink


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thank you so much, Lashy, but as for your last question, I do not have any solution, except fro them to actually have the baby. It is very clearly stated mannat, and my grandmother would never have budged from any such vow.

Of course there are other ways to bring them closer together, but what? Except the equally filmy one of his rescuing her from some calamity, and that would be tough to cook up in the middle of the harem. What would you suggest?

The thing is that he sees an opportunity to get close to her quickly, whereas by the normal route it would have taken him much, much longer. Especially as he is an emperor and cannot, like a lovelorn aashiq, serenade her from under her window in the middle of the night! What with his pride and her standoffishness, they would never get anywhere till God knows when.

He did not plan this opening, you remember, it just fell into his lap, and he grabbed it. That is all.

As for the plan, the only explanation that occurs to me is that he believes in the prophecy, and hopes that in the course of pretending, their closeness might become real and the baby as well.The thing is that it is going to be that way for him as well, not just for her.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: lashy

Beautiful post aunty...


However, reading something so well written still fails to placate me as a dissatisfied viewer 🤔 I for one, thought JA - the serial - was near perfection (except for he oscillating ruqs characterization) till yesterday that is...

I just cannot get myself to agree to the justifications people have explained about Jalal's promise from Jodha...find it very unbecoming for the Emperor of India...and obviously all the technical 'pregnancy' problems that you state...

But most of all, I'm a bit troubled that Jalal chooses to lie to his own mother about the arrival of an unborn child... 😕

I can't see why this track is needed to eventually bring them closer...there were other ways too, creatives - more sensible ones...

I'd like to ask you aunty - how would you have changed the storyline to ensure Hameeda didn't leave for Ajmer?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Shyamala..
What an apt title - "Clearing the air indeed!"

When I look at all the people that are plotting and planning against Jalal - Adham khan, Maham, Shariffudin of late - I am reminded of the fact that Jalal, in effect, has no true friends. Sure, History has it that Ruqaiya was his best friend and that they could share anything, but the serial (Ekta's version of Ruqaiya), isnt the most obliging confidante, nor does she seem overly interested in protecting Jalal. she seems to be running her own set of kitchen politics and proves time and again that nothing is as important to her, not even Jalal, as maintaining her position of supremacy in the harem. Her friendship with Jalal seems to be just a zariya for her to do so. Today they tried to bring out the softer side of Ruqaiya - Her insecurities and her desire to have a child that any woman would want, as well as her loving nature in the form of her behaviour with little Rahim, and it was a treat to watch. It elevated her character from a regular TV vamp which she was portraying in the past couple of episodes. The chemistry that those two sharre (Jalal and Ruq) was also quite evident, so was the reason why Jalal regards her as the begum - e - khaas. And still, when I view them together, i see a void, a distance between the two that cannot be breached. It is a fundamental lack of understanding between the two where Ruqaiya knows her husband and accepts his bad side to the T but fails to see the underlying goodness within. She may think that she is the closest to him, others may harp on the childhood friendship that they share, but I fail to see the strength of the bond that should be there, had they been such good childhood friends.

Shariffudin was an ugly dork today, and these are exactly the kind of hypocritical men that should be taught a well deserved lesson by their wives. They should be made an example of so that none ever dare after. Bakshi Bano's behaviour today had me grinding my teeth in frustration. She should have slapped him back, Shauhar or no shauhar, and threatened to complain to the shehenshah and used that as a leverage to get him to behave. Better still, she should have walked out. I agree with you, these are the kind of women that propogate wife-beating in the first place.

That scene between Bakshi and Jodha was beautiful. You said it all. Jodha although noticing the wound and understanding the implication, elects to remain quite. I hope that she fully intends to get to the bottom of it, and will bring it up at an appropriate time.

Like you mentioned, there is a growing understanding in Jodha of Jalal, a different view point that she now sees as compared to before, that depicts in the way her face reflects growing confusion after all her encounters with him. Its like she is trying to solve the puzzle that is Jalal, and it is like a maze where she the more deeper she gets, the more embroiled she becomes. So is with jalal. Today Jalal saw the caring side of Jodhaa, just like Jodha saw the caring side of the here-to-fore non-dil Jalal. The chemistry aside, the sparks that they feel aside, I think they are getting closer to the real person that resides within. While previously she would be coldly distant and a perfunctory wife, I loved the authoritative wife mode that she was in yesterday. And i absolutely loved that snetence - "Agar tum sab samajhte hon to tumhe har cheese dobara samjhani kyun padti hain??" Bith me and my sister were watching it together and we burst off laughing. It was too funny the way Jodha is now showing authority to Jalal, like real wife would. Do this. Do that. Get this straight. Force your mom to not go. And if she doesnt agree, force her again. Wow Jodha, dominating much?

And Jalal in his quintessential way totally reversed her own game on her. If you are so concerned for my mother why dont you play act with me for her? Jodha was of course speechless! My question to you is, If jalal thinks that Jodha only wants his Sar, isnt it kind of counter productive to give her his sar ki kasam to get her to do something? Unless ofcourse, Jalal no longer believes it to be true, and is beginning to see that he is having a lot of effect on her.

The precap was to drool for.

Loved it and your analysis.

(Can i tell you that I patiently wait for it every morning...)

Love,

Shal.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
Thank you, my dear Pallavi, especially for liking the quality of caring riff on Portia, for not many these days are fond of Shakespeare!

As for the precap, I would say 'sensual', rather than sexy. Sexy is very much in your face, and thus lacking in delicacy, whereas this is delightfully langorous and so graceful and tantalising!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Zoyafan

Thanks for the PM Aunty Smile

Once again a marvellous post with superb detailing Smile

loved the headings and the explanations, agree, Salima na hoti toh pata nahi yeh MU kab tak chalta Wink

Ekta's team is defo doing a good job..and me feels had it not been for Shaguni Bai and Salim Chisti Baba, Jo-Ja history would never have even existed bounce God Bless these two Razz

@The quality of caring: Its absolutely bang ON!!! awesome explanation

@Aggressive Biwi--I was almost laughing at this pati-patni nok jhok...so endearing and yes as u have pointed out Rajat was a bit OTT in that shot

@Precap: I cant take off my mind from this uber sexy couple Wink


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank YOU, Rose, for such a clever little, what is it called now? I always love all these little moving critters, I am quite childishly pleased with them!

Shyamala Aunty


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely, lovely post aunty...👏👏a pounding headache has spoiled half of my day...but, your post has certainly lifted my spirit...

I would say just one thing...jodha gave jalal the push to walk an extra mile...yes, he cares for his mother...but, first time jalal is going out of his way to ensure Hamida bano's well being...so, when we talk about jodha changing jalal...we dont want her to drill some godly qualities in him...but, we talk of a woman who will unlock this guy and introduce him to facets of his personality that he is so unaware of...And, it happened yesterday...i can't help but recall...he is the same son who brushed off Hamida bano...when she paid him a visit while he was camping outside amer...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
Dear Shalmali,

Oh , dear, that sar business is so very funny. Joke apart, I think both of them have forgotten about that by now, and even after the duel, what he really wanted, as I wrote there, for her to say that he was her patidev now and she could hardly bump him off, but she of course did not oblige.

I agree with all your comments, especially those about the creep Sharifuddin and about Ruqaiya.

I too loved Jodha's wifely nagging - Har sawaal ka jawab doosra sawaal nahin hota, Shahenshah, kabhi kabhi uttar bhi dena padta hai! And the cross looks she gives him when he stops protesting to his mother; for two pins, she would, as I had noted, nudged him sharply and told him off in a whisper!

I loved your line: The chemistry aside, the sparks that they feel aside, I think they are getting closer to the real person that resides within.

The precap was the opposite of what a young friend here called sexy. It was langorous and sensual and so delicate. Beautiful stuff.

Shyamala

PS: That you wait for my morning posts is flattering, very, but also a tad scary!



Originally posted by: shal1983

Hi Shyamala..

What an apt title - "Clearing the air indeed!"

When I look at all the people that are plotting and planning against Jalal - Adham khan, Maham, Shariffudin of late - I am reminded of the fact that Jalal, in effect, has no true friends. Sure, History has it that Ruqaiya was his best friend and that they could share anything, but the serial (Ekta's version of Ruqaiya), isnt the most obliging confidante, nor does she seem overly interested in protecting Jalal. she seems to be running her own set of kitchen politics and proves time and again that nothing is as important to her, not even Jalal, as maintaining her position of supremacy in the harem. Her friendship with Jalal seems to be just a zariya for her to do so. Today they tried to bring out the softer side of Ruqaiya - Her insecurities and her desire to have a child that any woman would want, as well as her loving nature in the form of her behaviour with little Rahim, and it was a treat to watch. It elevated her character from a regular TV vamp which she was portraying in the past couple of episodes. The chemistry that those two sharre (Jalal and Ruq) was also quite evident, so was the reason why Jalal regards her as the begum - e - khaas. And still, when I view them together, i see a void, a distance between the two that cannot be breached. It is a fundamental lack of understanding between the two where Ruqaiya knows her husband and accepts his bad side to the T but fails to see the underlying goodness within. She may think that she is the closest to him, others may harp on the childhood friendship that they share, but I fail to see the strength of the bond that should be there, had they been such good childhood friends.

Shariffudin was an ugly dork today, and these are exactly the kind of hypocritical men that should be taught a well deserved lesson by their wives. They should be made an example of so that none ever dare after. Bakshi Bano's behaviour today had me grinding my teeth in frustration. She should have slapped him back, Shauhar or no shauhar, and threatened to complain to the shehenshah and used that as a leverage to get him to behave. Better still, she should have walked out. I agree with you, these are the kind of women that propogate wife-beating in the first place.

That scene between Bakshi and Jodha was beautiful. You said it all. Jodha although noticing the wound and understanding the implication, elects to remain quite. I hope that she fully intends to get to the bottom of it, and will bring it up at an appropriate time.

Like you mentioned, there is a growing understanding in Jodha of Jalal, a different view point that she now sees as compared to before, that depicts in the way her face reflects growing confusion after all her encounters with him. Its like she is trying to solve the puzzle that is Jalal, and it is like a maze where she the more deeper she gets, the more embroiled she becomes. So is with jalal. Today Jalal saw the caring side of Jodhaa, just like Jodha saw the caring side of the here-to-fore non-dil Jalal. The chemistry aside, the sparks that they feel aside, I think they are getting closer to the real person that resides within. While previously she would be coldly distant and a perfunctory wife, I loved the authoritative wife mode that she was in yesterday. And i absolutely loved that snetence - "Agar tum sab samajhte hon to tumhe har cheese dobara samjhani kyun padti hain??" Bith me and my sister were watching it together and we burst off laughing. It was too funny the way Jodha is now showing authority to Jalal, like real wife would. Do this. Do that. Get this straight. Force your mom to not go. And if she doesnt agree, force her again. Wow Jodha, dominating much?

And Jalal in his quintessential way totally reversed her own game on her. If you are so concerned for my mother why dont you play act with me for her? Jodha was of course speechless! My question to you is, If jalal thinks that Jodha only wants his Sar, isnt it kind of counter productive to give her his sar ki kasam to get her to do something? Unless ofcourse, Jalal no longer believes it to be true, and is beginning to see that he is having a lot of effect on her.

The precap was to drool for.

Loved it and your analysis.

(Can i tell you that I patiently wait for it every morning...)

Love,

Shal.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you, my dear Pallavi, especially for liking the quality of caring riff on Portia, for not many these days are fond of Shakespeare!

As for the precap, I would say 'sensual', rather than sexy. Sexy is very much in your face, and thus lacking in delicacy, whereas this is delightfully langorous and so graceful and tantalising!

Shyamala Aunty


Take a bow Aunty!!! 😊👏



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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
Suvi dear, that is one of the best compliments I have ever received for my posts, and your take on Jodha's effect on Jalal is one of the most perceptive ones I have read here. Take care and shake off that that headache soon.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Super Kool

Lovely, lovely post aunty...👏👏a pounding headache has spoiled half of my day...but, your post has certainly lifted my spirit...


I would say just one thing...jodha gave jalal the push to walk an extra mile...yes, he cares for his mother...but, first time jalal is going out of his way to ensure Hamida bano's well being...so, when we talk about jodha changing jalal...we dont want her to drill some godly qualities in him...but, we talk of a woman who will unlock this guy and introduce him to facets of his personality that he is so unaware of...I can't help but recall...he is the same son who brushed off Hamida bano...when she paid him a visit while he was camping outside amer...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Suvi dear, that is one of the best compliments I have ever received for my posts, and your take on Jodha's effect on Jalal is one of the most perceptive ones I have read here. Take care and shake off that that headache soon.

Thank you aunty...🤗🤗🤗


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