Jodha Akbar 32: Domination and Duty - Page 5

Dear Doyelpakhi,

A very interesting take on this. My own earlier response to Rukvij was of course purely tongue in cheek,but as for your @blue, this is what I had written on another thread earlier this week, about the reasons that Jalal gave to his Ministers for his decision to marry Jodha. These comments are about the Jalal we see here, but also, except for the last line, about the historical Akbar as well. -*-

"Jalal is a ruler, first and foremost, and even more important, he is a fledgling Shahenshah, just emerging from the overpowering shadow of his lifelong mentor, Bairam Khan. He has yet to make a name and gain a reputation of his own, a reputation for wise leadership that keeps the interests of the Mughal Sultanate first and foremost. If he is unable to do this, he will soon progressively lose their unquestioning backing. That will then lead to plots against him by those spreading rumours that he is a weak, wayward ruler, easily swayed by sudden obsessions, and thus not worthy to head a mighty empire.

So there is NO way he can justify his pathbreaking, indeed shocking decision to marry a kafir (infidel), thus giving her the status of his empress, and not just add her to his harem. by telling his advisers that he is obsessed with her. The latter option would have been perfectly acceptable to his advisers, the former is, to begin with, an absolute no no.

Originally posted by: doyelpakhi

Actually Akbar never imposed any order on Bharmal to get his daughter married to the Mughal emperor,

It was Bharmal, frustrated with the growing demands of the Mughal governor Shafiruddin, who proposed the matrimonial alliance. Akbar was ready to help him just for the fact that Bharmal had shown respect and paid tribute to Mughal empire earlier.

Most probably, Bharmal was scared that the Mughal governor or may be Mughal Emperor Akbar himself, could take any of his daughter in the harem forcefully and before any such catastrophe happens he decided to develop a relation with the Mughal Emperor.

Also - Bharmal did not make the deal himself. When Bharmal visited Akbar, he was accompanied by his son and other relatives.

Question is - why did Akbar accept it ?

Definitely - he was an intelligent man who knew the importance of having good relationship without using the sword. The three reasons stated by Akbar in the serial to his advisers are facts - indeed these are the real reasons. There is no proof anywhere that Akbar had already developed passion for Amber princess.

Akbar's critics blame him for his inclination towards alcohol and his eye for beautiful women. 😉 So when Akbar was offered the alliance - it was a double dhamaka for him - 😃⭐️ - making an alliance with the Rajput clan who will work for him as well as getting a beautiful princess. 😃

Originally posted by: rukvij

A beautiful analysis i must say.The only point on which i am rather perturbed was why the daughter had to pay the price for the release of the sons and soldiers of the kingdom.We all know that history shows that this was indeed what happened but still i feel very sorry about the fact that the princess in question was not even consulted before pushing her into an entirely alien and hostile atmosphere.

Originally posted by: elasingh

Shyamala you answered everything but one question still is uncleared."Why did Jalal shut up MA?" Does he care for Jodha?

I feel Jalal wants to be more and more indepandent now and Maham's days are numbered...but still why didnt he like Maham saying anything against Jodha?

Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

beautiful analysis as usual!!

Originally posted by: foodlover-

A beautiful post aunty :)

I am yet to watch epi's of the last week and so can't say much.but from what i read on the forum and your analysis i dont see i am missing out on much.The whole marriage fiasco is like a mockery and i think that is ekta's shows main trait after all i had experienced such fiasco with my fave couple 😉.

Love,Kesha :)

Originally posted by: riyya6

i liked it n loved it - ur post shymala aunthy even though it was long...😳🤗

Originally posted by: SonyaBlade

Shyamala Auntiji,

I think on this one we are going to have to agree to disagree. I do not think that Jalals possessiveness can be separated from his
passion. Only because of the way he thinks of her and the way he is acting. I am not happy with the protrayel of Jalal right now but that's because I feel he is disrespecting her before they are married and in front of others. I can not and will not like it. Not happy with the CVs in his dialogue concerning Jodha. And I'm definitely not happy with them on their lack of strength development with Jodha's character.


just like they've thrown away Ruqaita's character they ate not making Jodhaa appear strong. I see her strength but I think it's because I'm digging very deep and want to see it. To te casual viewer it's not coming across very well.

Oh the perils of getting involved in an Indian drama. I am sure to rew the day.

Sonya dear,

Of course you should stay with your own opinion if that is what you feel strongly.

I also do agree that it was not nice of Jalal to make snide remarks to all and sundry about wanting to see Jodha's face when she learns that she is to get married to him. But we are looking at this from our point of view.

For him, despite the indefinable attraction and the desire to see her that pulls him into a dangerous venture into Amer, she is, right now, only an impertinent wench who dared to hold a sword to his throat, and put him, the Shahenshah, in a very tight corner for a minute. But for his icy courage and tremendous presence of mind, he would have been killed right there, or arrested, which would have been far worse.

She also repeatedly calls for his head, and produces a whole laundry list of his real and imaginary atrocities.

So what would he, an absolute monarch and a fierce warrior, think about her? Like Petruchio dealing with Kate in Shakespeare's The Taming of the Shrew, that she needs to be taught a good lesson. He would hardly be bothered about the inappropriateness of making that kind of off hand remark to his inner entourage. Remember what he says to Abdul when he has finished burning her portrait?

Still,he does not let even his Badiammi speak disparagingly of Jodha, which means something. That she is his choice, and no one,but no one, can speak contemptuously about his choice.

Coming to his reaction to the banjaras' song, I think there is an extra layer to it.

In those days, royal women were not seen in public, so the common people would not have had any real idea of what Jodha looked like. If the song had been about her gunas, her qualities - her courage, her compassion for the weak, etc. - it would have been quite acceptable to Jalal. But this song (which would never have been sung that way in the real 16th century milieu) sounds like a description of a ganika, a courtesan, not of a rajkumari.

So, the Mughal courtiers might have been shocked (provided they understood the dialect!) and might have consequently looked down on Jodha. It is like a conservative family girl's photo in a bikini appearing in a magazine. What would their world think of the girl?

Now Jodha is Jalal's choice, and he cannot tolerate it that anyone, Mughal or other, should think contemptuously of his choice. So he does not want that risque song repeated.

It is basically his ego at work, for he does not know yet that he cares for her and more. He does not yet know what it is to care for another person, really, truly, deeply. That will come, and accepting it will be one of the biggest battles he has ever waged, for it will be a battle with his own ego.

And no, I do not think you are going to rue the day you got involved with this serial.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: smile.sara

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

Originally posted by: itsRitzi

so well written love the many facets of jalal