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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
Great post ⭐️
Sanaya's acts were not wow all the time
Khuda jane was best act of her n rest were simple dances thats it but her fans are not ready to agree
If comparision with DD is compulsory 😆 then drashti was best dancer
U can easily figure out how much she improved, salman used to give away the stage to her , she was clumsy initially but u can see her turn best dancer along tge tym and to be frank i did not find any improvement in sanaya
They are in delusion that Faisal is trained dancer, if a person knows 1,2,3 tbat does not mean he can solve Trignometry(wow, nyc example 😆 ) i dont understand why this simple thing cant be understood :(
If only non dancers will participate ppl will be boredseeing mediocre n clumsy acts, they should hv 1-2 contestant who knows thoda bahot dance
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .crystalskies.

How do you people get so much time for writing such a long post for a particular fandom? Is it that serious?.I would not even bother to write so much on my favourite actor.Well,I am her fan and I have never bashed Faisal infact I like him from DID days.Some immature fans might have bashed him on any social networking site but why to generalize it and blame the whole fandom?.They might be immature fans or might NOT be her fans.I can put an icon of Shahrukh Khan and bash Salman on twitter.Who would not believe that I am SRK fan?.People who are posting the screenshots of other sites here about this might have done the same.Nobody knows!.IF you are so against bashers then you should also stop some cheapsters namecalling Sanaya in THIS forum where you are posting.Isn't that wrong for you? then discuss about other sites.
Coming to JDJ,I would say,No.This show is not for trained dancers to participate and win beating all nondancers,who are not of their caliber.There should be separate shows for dancers and non dancers.Non dancers can improve as much as they can but they can never be better than dancers.No matter how much they work hard but they would always be overshadowed by dancers.That is happening in every season.Obviously I would find Isha,Lauren and Faisal better than non dancers without giving it a second thought coz they are trained but ain't I belittling the efforts of non dancers?.So why to keep them in a same show?.Secondly,there is already a dancer who is a choreo partner of a contestant so do you think dancer-non dancer would ever beat dancer-dancer?.That's why JDJ is not a show for dancers in my opinion.We already have so many shows for dancers like D ,DID etc.There are only two shows for non dancers to show their hidden dancing talent.If channels would keep bringing dancers in these two shows then how it would be fair to non dancers?.


@bold: I'm sick and tired of hearing the same rant over and over again. Just tell me one thing, if dancers have an edge over non-dancers, then don't the more popular celebs have an advantage over the less popular ones? And anyday, I would prefer to watch good dancing in a GODDAMN DANCING SHOW rather than some so-called popular celeb delivering sub-par and below average performances. He wasn't born a dancer, he has earned his name as a brilliant dancer by sheer hardwork just like she has earned hers as a good actor and has become popular. And is it so difficult to permeate the skull of some people, that to lift the trophy, he has put in EQUAL if not more industrious efforts than the non-dancers. Isn't it belittling his efforts, then?

This show isn't for dancers? 😕 The show is called 'Dancing with the STARS' and the only criterion that the contestant needs to fulfill is that of being a celeb and FAISAL IS ONE. Its not his or our problem that he is versatile and along with being a celeb, is an outstanding dancer as well unlike your fav celeb.

@Italics: ROFL! You're asking us if it is THAT serious? Go and ask your fellow fandom members who are willing to die, eat pills and tweet to Modi for the biggest and gravest 'injustice' of the millennium.

And again, you used the word 'cheapsters' for the members as opposed to the decent language the TM has used. Well, I'm not surprised.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Can anyone tell me kis kis ne sympathy card use kiya??
Agar sad storyk basis pe hi winner decide karna hota i guess Surbeet would hv been winner
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Posted: 9 years ago
#14
Some immature fans alrrady appealed to modi for sanaya:(
First of all i laughed so much thn iam thinking how kiddish they r, making fun of themselves! Their parents should cut the cable and internet connection for them..too much serious abt a celeb nd reality show!how come!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">There was a poll on IF where it was asked if not ur Fav. than whom do u want to win most of the people posted if not Sanaya than Faisal and even a few posted if not Faisal than Sanaya. Faisal landed in bottom two once after low scores but Sanaya didn't because ppl voted for her its hard to believe that Sanaya got less votes than Faisal.He was undoubtedly the best performer among all of them. I don't even remember Mohit's single performance that had a different concept and was outstanding all his performances had props...but Sanaya despite of inconsistency has given few memorable performances...there are few people like me who started supporting Sanaya after the improvement and because of the fact that she never used sympathy card...Well she wasn't average dancer as average dancers can give performances like khuda jane, bano tera, dhoom machale,aj phir tumpe she was only inconsistent that also mostly because of choreography..if she was given Vivek as choreographer that would've been better (my POV)...If people are criticizing Faisal than that's immaturity also ppl have taken this show too seriously...Colors has lost its credibility because of constant praising of a single celeb she was constantly overscored and was praised beyond a limit a contestant left the show because he had to play a match than why at first place he participated? Mohit got 3 choreographers... Everything seemed scripted...Maybe that's why its difficult to believe...though maybe he got more votes than celeb who is known popular from several years</font>


by this..it seems u think winning is all abt votes...okay lets agree sanaya got more votes...bt her marks+votes must be less nd i m sure it is less that faisal's aggregate ...how is it a prblm then ???
shouldnt it be a mix then ??
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .crystalskies.

How do you people get so much time for writing such a long post for a particular fandom? Is it that serious?.I would not even bother to write so much on my favourite actor.Well,I am her fan and I have never bashed Faisal infact I like him from DID days.Some immature fans might have bashed him on any social networking site but why to generalize it and blame the whole fandom?.They might be immature fans or might NOT be her fans.I can put an icon of Shahrukh Khan and bash Salman on twitter.Who would not believe that I am SRK fan?.People who are posting the screenshots of other sites here about this might have done the same.Nobody knows!.IF you are so against bashers then you should also stop some cheapsters namecalling Sanaya in THIS forum where you are posting.Isn't that wrong for you? then discuss about other sites.
Coming to JDJ,I would say,No.This show is not for trained dancers to participate and win beating all nondancers,who are not of their caliber.There should be separate shows for dancers and non dancers.Non dancers can improve as much as they can but they can never be better than dancers.No matter how much they work hard but they would always be overshadowed by dancers.That is happening in every season.Obviously I would find Isha,Lauren and Faisal better than non dancers without giving it a second thought coz they are trained but ain't I belittling the efforts of non dancers?.So why to keep them in a same show?.Secondly,there is already a dancer who is a choreo partner of a contestant so do you think dancer-non dancer would ever beat dancer-dancer?.That's why JDJ is not a show for dancers in my opinion.We already have so many shows for dancers like D+,DID etc.There are only two shows for non dancers to show their hidden dancing talent.If channels would keep bringing dancers in these two shows then how it would be fair to non dancers?.


LOL u demean the importance of having dancers in the show. do u know why colors have to put them because this show wont be able to hold even 1% trp because all we will be shown lacklustre performances. Faisal kept this season going and kept the dancing level of this season while u have shamita who does performances which looks similar, mohit always shirtless and sanaya having hit and misses with jai's choreography skills having ups and down. If you think colors shouldnt have dancers in the show then why didnt u complain before? this has been going on for so many years.. Also just like faisal has his dancing working for him sanaya has her popularity working for her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: medha16

I waited a little to make this post because I could not believe the amount of spite some ppl can carry with themselves. i don't take well to judgemental, ignorant idiots, usee.

Firstly, a BIG BIG congrats to Faisal for winning the trophy. he won it fair and square through sheer dedication and hard work. Week after week, he has given tremendous and very innovative performances and nobody deserves the title of jhalak more than him.

I won't talk about cheating and votes and popularity and wat not coz whatever be the case, the result is there for all to see.

What I want to talk about is the sheer rabidity of a certain section of fans. Do u guys realize that you are making a fool of yourself in front of the entire world? sanaya is a lovely person and she does not deserve her name getting spoilt by association to such people. you are only embarrassing her in front of everyone. Yes, she is popular and she has a lot of fans who vote for her but so does mohit or faisal. sanaya is not the only celebrity out there. look around u, look beyond IF or twitter... and this madness and obsession is so unhealthy, do u realize that? i bet many of u share posts on fb and twitter on ragging and cyber bullying but unfortunately this is YOU DOING THE SAME BLOODY THING! Are u guys really that insane to abuse, belittle, every person associated with the show who is not sanaya irani just coz she did not win?

This is a bloody show and you were rooting for a random tv star. what gives u the right to talk rubbish and bully others if things do not go your way? I shudder to think what resort you would go to if anybody you were close to was actually participating in such a show. You are making yourselves a laughing stock with your claims of depression , wanting to die and all that nautanki. I never realized that so many of u are so shallow in your mentality. Not only are u embarrassing sanaya, but also the entire humanity and the people who actually suffer such illnesses in real life.

GET A GRIP ON YOURSELVES GUYS. THIS IS JUST A BLOODY REALITY SHOW, A TV SHOW WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH U OR WORTH ANYTHING IN THE LARGER WORLD.


Another point I wish to address is WHY people think faisal is not deserving of the trophy. He has worked as hard, if not more, than Sanaya, Mohit or Shamita. He is a celebrity in his own right. He has consistently given great performances and has upped the quotient with every act of his. He might have won a dance show in the past and is a fabulous dancer but that does not come without any hard work or merit. Let's give the credit where it is due, yeah?

Again, I ask, where in the world is it mentioned that only a non-dancer has to win Jhalak? In which rulebook is it written that it's ONLY a journey of a non-dancer. JDJ is a poor adaptation of the international show DANCING WITH THE STARS and not dancing with non-dancers or anything of the sort.
Sanaya or Mohit might be popular actors but ppl are forgetting that this is a DANCE show. Yes, votes matter but so do the performances. Did u really anticipate a medocre dancer to take home the trophy of a dance based show only coz he/she was appreciated as a character in his/her tv show? Let's face the truth here. The fact is Sanaya did not deserve the trophy because she is an average dancer at best. Only one or 2 of her acts have been note-worthy. Sure, she has improved from the clumsy, graceless act in the first episode to carrying her own in last week's but tell me honestly, if it was anybody other than THE BARBIEDOLL SANAYA IRANI, would u want her to win a show that is a DANCE COMPETITION IN ESSENCE?

And again, let's not take examples from previous seasons to justify these claims. Fact is, this is not season 7 or season 6 or season 5, this is season 8. I won't get into the intricacies of why ppl like Drashti won and sanaya didn't...the acts are all there for ppl to see. Yes, I like Sanaya, yes, I love watching her because she is such a lively person full of positivity but I also have the sense to give credit where it is due and not justify bad acts only coz it is being performed by a certain someone I like. I don't watch a movie just coz it has Brad Pitt in it or Shah rukh Khan, I don't follow a show just because it has KSG or Drashti or sanaya or whoever. Yes, it is one of my motivations of trying it out but after that, whether something runs or whether I keep watching it is n merit and merit alone.
The case is the very same here. I cannot deny that she was a subpar dancer and so was Mohit and it really would have been an injustice to the world of dance if either of them were touted as winners of dance show. On the other hand, time and again, Faisal has proved himself by donning different roles, by trying out different stuff and excelling at each on of them.

So you see, nothing can justify you being nasty to the kid who has clearly outshone everyone else by a mile to win that coveted trophy. No cheating, bias, partiality, bribery has taken place in deciding the winner. Again, I repeat this is a tv show, why take it so personally. Faisal doesn't deserve this hatred and neither does the channel or even sanaya. Maybe you should learn a little from the lady u all claim to worship, If u could learn even 1/10th of the grace which she possesses, the world would have been a better place.
You are no fan or Sanaya or anybody else. You don't respect the person who u claim to love nor do u extend the same courtesy to her friends or who she is close to. You are just irritating cyber bullies who have no guts to come out in the open and only find twisted pleasure in being malicious to others just because things did not go your way. I pity u, I really do...u don't have my sympathy one ounce.

Herein, I rest my case.
Thank you for reading.
Adios.
PS- Don't bother replying if abuse and negativity is all u can come up with. I don't take well to dimwitted, illogical trash.

agree ! i want to say superior dancer won and on popularity faisal is also a celebrity and no non celebrity and is very famous too ! 👏 the decision is fair and just !😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

There was a poll on IF where it was asked if not ur Fav. than whom do u want to win most of the people posted if not Sanaya than Faisal and even a few posted if not Faisal than Sanaya. Faisal landed in bottom two once after low scores but Sanaya didn't because ppl voted for her its hard to believe that Sanaya got less votes than Faisal.He was undoubtedly the best performer among all of them. I don't even remember Mohit's single performance that had a different concept and was outstanding all his performances had props...but Sanaya despite of inconsistency has given few memorable performances...there are few people like me who started supporting Sanaya after the improvement and because of the fact that she never used sympathy card...Well she wasn't average dancer as average dancers can give performances like khuda jane, bano tera, dhoom machale,aj phir tumpe she was only inconsistent that also mostly because of choreography..if she was given Vivek as choreographer that would've been better (my POV)...If people are criticizing Faisal than that's immaturity also ppl have taken this show too seriously...Colors has lost its credibility because of constant praising of a single celeb she was constantly overscored and was praised beyond a limit a contestant left the show because he had to play a match than why at first place he participated? Mohit got 3 choreographers... Everything seemed scripted...Maybe that's why its difficult to believe...though maybe he got more votes than celeb who is known popular from several years


Honestly, I only liked Khuda Jaane and the bathtub act of sanaya's. the others that u mentioned had very little dancing. Maybe some other choreo could have utilized her better, but that we'll never know. everybody has to work with what they have got and they made the best use of it. Sanaya has improved , no doubt about that, but even today her footwork and floorwork remains sloppy at best though she does great with lifts.
There have been a lot of ambiguities in the show over the seasons but that is not in our hands. Yes, a certain contestant has been favoured by a few ppl on quite a few occasions but at the end of the day, she still was a good dancer, maybe not the best. Reality shows are always scripted, no doubt about that...every joke, every jibe, every comment is rehearsed, learnt by rote and executed on stage . However, whatever extra materials that the show is filled with, one cannot deny that an act is presented in one take and performed by the contestant and judged according to its merit.
Mohit's choreo was injured, we will never know why Bhavna got replaced by Sneha but even that comes with a lot of challenges. He had other difficulties, maybe a little different from someone like sanaya or faisal.
As for getting more votes is concerned, again we DO NOT KNOW . How can ppl be so sure that Sanaya got more votes? Is there any proof, any official figures of the same? how many of us would actually spend 300 bucks every week for a random contestant on a random tv show. Is that even believable since the majority of the ppl are teenagers or college students? It's very easy to claim that someone has voted 100 times and 200 times daily but we would never know whether it's true or not. So, we defo don't have any right to pass judgemental and absolute comments coz we don't have any conclusive proof of the same.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you for this post.
And clearing out some rumors of the original format of the show.

But i dont think some are ready to settle in.

Particularly, loved the lines on trained dancer... I mean being a dancer was through his hardwork. It's not his fault that he had multiple facets to him. Actor, dancer, celeb.

I know u didnt mention about votes but i clearly blame her dance partner for spewing stuff on articles right after the shoot. Which further made them think that Faisal didnt win cos of lack of votes. Since he used this exact sentence "I'm sure had the judgement been based on voting alone, we would have been the winners, without any doubt. " 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I didn't want to write anything on this forum because it's crazy mess but M16's post deserved attention.

Faizal won it fair and square. That Kid never took his talent for granted, worked on concepts , pushed boundaries and it was always such a joy to watch him. He is immensely popular, I believe his MP act was a big rage and the boy honestly kept me hooked throughout. If anyone deserved the trophy it was him and only him. Thank God , finally someone talented and deserving won.

The stupid argument that he was a trained dancer is so baseless. If that is stated as an argument against his win then why didn't other participants walked out of the competition when they came to know about him . There was no rule that he couldn't win.

I had no idea about Sanaya , have just seen rushes or few scenes of her but here she actually seemed chilled out and honestly I enjoyed her off-screen more.

She was horrible when she started out but she made giant improvements , which I think is because most of her acts highlighted her emoting . I still feel Jai was under-whelming, he played too safe and didn't push her dancing wise at all. Sanaya as a performer improved ,not too sure about her dancing abilities .

She might be immensely popular here but there is a world outside SNS , kids adore Faisal, families liked him..that boy earned it all. Online polling, IF etc make for a very small percentage of voting audience.

Mohit too disappointed me in the end , I don't know most of his acts became too gimmicky .


Cyber Bullying- Public figures unfortunately on sns need to be careful because this is one evil con of their job. You cannot stop it , because of easy access to both fans and haters . But this reason to fails because the kid is underage- just 16, that makes it more mercurial .

Best way, Faizal should just enjoy the moment, have fun with his family and must remember there is a world who voted for him and are far greater in number than few internet trolls .
But what is hilarious be bullying or bitching of normal members on twitter/IF etc over these celebs. Give it a rest guys, it's just a tv show and this is a virtual world, you might not know what the other feels or how he/she interprets the comments or discussion. What can be a harmless trolling might blow up for the other person. Yet , this is a choice most of us have made, the moment you cannot handle it, leave . No celeb or online friend be worth it.

SI fans should take a break , I was tbh very astonished by the way they were mobilizing votes, it was my first experience but google sheets, nonstop voting over weekend, there was madness..perhaps I don't get the craze but losing head or taking drastic steps like pills etc be ridiculous. Stop and just be proud of what your star has achieved.


Faizal , you go boy, live it out and party hard. You earned every bit of it.
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