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Posted: 18 years ago
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noname01 SAID....I think improvement doesn't have to apply only to "Scores Increasing"
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But arent scors the "reflection" of how good or bad the performance was....One cant completely discard th scores

Yes,AGain reiterating,I'm not saying Mona didnt improve...She did,and she scored a 29 too once...But I dont think she has improved THAT much,that people are asked by the media to vote for her" FOE HER IMPROVEMENT"..because,when that tagline is used,and Mona is a name to reckon with,only due to this "IMPROVEMENT",then I guess the "IMPROVEMENT" should have been collosal.....WHich isnt the case,as she couldnt sustain that improvement.....

SHveta is known for her "DANCING",Mona for her "IMPROVEMENT"...Thus the media and the fans and the hosts and judges are putting "IMPROVEMENT" and "GREAT TALENT" on the same pedestal.....Improvement can be pitched against inborn talent,ONLY IF THE IMPROVEMENT IS THAT BIG,which isnt the case...

That's my view...no offense please😊

Edited by Buffie - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Buffie

Yes,Mona has improved technically as well,but just not as much as its overhyped 😳 ..she isnt consistent

and I didnt mean to compare HGT to Mona...I just wanted to point out what an "episode to episode improvement" is.....Yes,HGT have more scope for improvement.....

SO you agree that Mona doesnt have that much scope for improvement,but still she is a better dancer than HGT..Analogously,SHveta doesnt have much scope for improvement,but still is better than mona 😃 (Dunno why I'm saying this to a shveta fan 😕 )

ummmm GHT have the MOST MOST MOST scope for improvement.....while MOna has less scope for improvement compared to GHT but mroe compared to shveta......deos tht sound fine?

Consistent.......i dont think any participant on JDJ has realyl been consistent if u see the scores----except maybe sanjeev k!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: breathing_irony

ummmm GHT have the MOST MOST MOST scope for improvement.....while MOna has less scope for improvement compared to GHT but mroe compared to shveta......deos tht sound fine?

Consistent.......i dont think any participant on JDJ has realyl been consistent if u see the scores----except maybe sanjeev k!

every participant has had the incongruencies,but its only Mona whose improvement is being so overrated and sensationalized😕...the mantra has become "VOTE FOR IMPROVEMENT"....She has improved,no taking that away from her...But has she improved THAT much that she her "IMPROVEMENT" is pitched against shveta's "TALENT"😕....I dont think so,so has shveta(which started off with 27,to reach the 30 mark three times)....Everyone has had their good and bad days,and in totality,MONA HAS IMPROVED.....But not so much,that she can be touted to be the proverbial "black horse",because to be very frank,she was always one of the better contestants

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Posted: 18 years ago
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buff the media needs some1 to call the dark horse---n only mona fits the bill, i suppose! 😕
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Posted: 18 years ago
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anusha 😡 u r really getting to my nerves now
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Buffie

Just a few thoughts😊

Mona's called the "dark horse"……Now the "dark horse" is essentially the a person who wins a competition although no one expected them to ….and as far as my knowledge goes,Mona has always been in the top 3,if judges scores are kept as the yardstick...She was always the favourite of the public,and has been one of the better dancers compared to people like sanjeev,ajay,rati,Pooja Bedi etc…..SO how can she be called the "dark horse"😕

Secondly,so much is being spoken about mona's improvement…..If we analyse her scores,her scores are as follows…(correct me if any of the scores is wrong,I'm recollecting from my memory,so I might be wrong also..correct me if I'm wrong😊)

Finals….20 24 29…..Average……24

Semi finals….24…27…..Average…..25.5

Quarter Finals(Total was 54,I don't remember the break up)…Average…..27.5

Fourth round:….27

Third round:…..23

Second round:…27

First round……24

Thus if we look at the scores in each performance(for the last three,I've considered the average score)…It is 24,27,24,27,27.5,25.5,24…..Total average being 25.36

Improvement is when scores increase continuously(as in the case if Hiten Gauri of NB 2,who fiest started with a 14,then 18,then 19,then 22)…..Mona's score has always been fluctuating,between 24 and 27/28……if we look at the graph,she started off with a 24,and in the finals too,she ended with a 24…..Thus why is this improvement so overhyped😕…..because the in the scores(individual in certain cases,and average scores when more than one performance was there) improvement has been a maximum of 3 marks,which even shveta has achieved….shveta's score in her first performance was 27,and has scored 30 in some of her performances….Thus even she can boast of the "3 marks" improvement

I'm not trying to manipulate,or enforce or brainwash…these are simple points which I have laid down..I fail to understand why mona is called the dark horse,and the one who has shown maximum improvement,because her scores don't say so exactly…she started with a 24,and her in the finals too,her average score was 24….People accuse shveta of having reached a plateau..but what about Mona..even she didn't start with a 24 and then increased her score in every single episode...in certain episodes,her score had increased,and then it would be back to square one in the next...her score has been fluctuating too,thus one cant say she has only and ONLY improved,because her performance in the finals was sort of a let down,because 20 and 24 werent her best scores,she has scored more previously….Thus she improved a week,then In the next week,she is back to that 24..,then 27,then again 24,then in the finals 21…..

Even shveta's scores has been fluctuating,betwween 27,28,29,30,26 and 21….but since no one touts her to be this contestant who has shown the maximum improvement,I'm not talking about her graph,as her improvement isnt being spoken about or overhyped..…But so much hoohah over Mona's "improvement",which I feel is sensationalized…No doubt mona did improve,scoring a 29 from a 24 is no mean feat,and all credit to her👏…but her total scores don't speak so,because she in all the rounds which had 2 performances,she did well on one,and not all that well in the other…if she is only improving,she should have done well in ALL the dances,or should have atleast sustained the improved scores…..sustaining is as important as improving,because doing well in one round,then being back to square one isnt called "improvement"..its the antithesis infact😆...Is her improvement overhyed and sensationalized..Because,I don't think she improved as much as her fans are making it to be

Just my opinion,which is backed with valid reasoning…fell free to contradict me,and prove me wrong by citing LOGICAL reasons and lets respect each other's views and not participate in name calling and mudslinging,as we've seen enough of it in the past 3 days

Cheers!

oh ye thn y did ur golden horse get 21 twice is that called sustaining performance?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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shveta got 21 once but got 30 thrice as well! 😉 and so many 29's!!!!!!!!MOna has never ever got 30!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sandya_rao7

oh ye thn y did ur golden horse get 21 twice is that called sustaining performance?

Learn to be tolerant towards others' views...

Sandhya rao,To be brutally honest,I think its a few mona fans,who spoil the name of every mona fan....and vice versa....SO please chill,and learn to respect our sentiments...None of us bashed mona,or called her names...you can chill,and conduct yourself with a little more maturity😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
#29
ya shveta get 30 in one performance and the same day she gets 21 in her other performance and she has been in bottom three many times while Mona hasnet been there
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Posted: 18 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Buffie

Learn to be tolerant towards others' views...

please practice wht u preach

Sandhya rao,To be brutally honest,I think its a few mona fans,who spoil the name of every mona fan....and vice versa....SO please chill,and learn to respect our sentiments

as far as sentiments are concerned dnt u think u have done it far enough as far as Mona is concerned?

...None of us bashed mona,or called her names...you can chill,and conduct yourself with a little more maturity😊

this is a discussion forum every body is entitled to express once views but without hurting anyones feeling which i have not done just stated a plain fact.and this is the se cond time u have caled me immature.i dnt think being behind some celebrity is maturity just to prove ur point.

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