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Posted: 18 years ago
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Just a few thoughts😊

Mona's called the "dark horse"……Now the "dark horse" is essentially the a person who wins a competition although no one expected them to ….and as far as my knowledge goes,Mona has always been in the top 3,if judges scores are kept as the yardstick...She was always the favourite of the public,and has been one of the better dancers compared to people like sanjeev,ajay,rati,Pooja Bedi etc…..SO how can she be called the "dark horse"😕

Secondly,so much is being spoken about mona's improvement…..If we analyse her scores,her scores are as follows…(correct me if any of the scores is wrong,I'm recollecting from my memory,so I might be wrong also..correct me if I'm wrong😊)

Finals….20 24 29…..Average……24

Semi finals….24…27…..Average…..25.5

Quarter Finals(Total was 54,I don't remember the break up)…Average…..27.5

Fourth round:….27

Third round:…..23

Second round:…27

First round……24

Thus if we look at the scores in each performance(for the last three,I've considered the average score)…It is 24,27,24,27,27.5,25.5,24…..Total average being 25.36

Improvement is when scores increase continuously(as in the case if Hiten Gauri of NB 2,who fiest started with a 14,then 18,then 19,then 22)…..Mona's score has always been fluctuating,between 24 and 27/28……if we look at the graph,she started off with a 24,and in the finals too,she ended with a 24…..Thus why is this improvement so overhyped😕…..because the in the scores(individual in certain cases,and average scores when more than one performance was there) improvement has been a maximum of 3 marks,which even shveta has achieved….shveta's score in her first performance was 27,and has scored 30 in some of her performances….Thus even she can boast of the "3 marks" improvement

I'm not trying to manipulate,or enforce or brainwash…these are simple points which I have laid down..I fail to understand why mona is called the dark horse,and the one who has shown maximum improvement,because her scores don't say so exactly…she started with a 24,and her in the finals too,her average score was 24….People accuse shveta of having reached a plateau..but what about Mona..even she didn't start with a 24 and then increased her score in every single episode...in certain episodes,her score had increased,and then it would be back to square one in the next...her score has been fluctuating too,thus one cant say she has only and ONLY improved,because her performance in the finals was sort of a let down,because 20 and 24 werent her best scores,she has scored more previously….Thus she improved a week,then In the next week,she is back to that 24..,then 27,then again 24,then in the finals 21…..

Even shveta's scores has been fluctuating,betwween 27,28,29,30,26 and 21….but since no one touts her to be this contestant who has shown the maximum improvement,I'm not talking about her graph,as her improvement isnt being spoken about or overhyped..…But so much hoohah over Mona's "improvement",which I feel is sensationalized…No doubt mona did improve,scoring a 29 from a 24 is no mean feat,and all credit to her👏…but her total scores don't speak so,because she in all the rounds which had 2 performances,she did well on one,and not all that well in the other…if she is only improving,she should have done well in ALL the dances,or should have atleast sustained the improved scores…..sustaining is as important as improving,because doing well in one round,then being back to square one isnt called "improvement"..its the antithesis infact😆...Is her improvement overhyed and sensationalized..Because,I don't think she improved as much as her fans are making it to be

Just my opinion,which is backed with valid reasoning…fell free to contradict me,and prove me wrong by citing LOGICAL reasons and lets respect each other's views and not participate in name calling and mudslinging,as we've seen enough of it in the past 3 days

Cheers!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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nusshiiieeee-->explain to me why it is that you do not want to be a lawyer-->you'd do greattt 😆

why care about Mona..isnt drooling over the hotness of john/HR/abhi much much muuucchhh more fun 😳

sorrryyyyyyyy if i am taking away from the subject at hand; i apologise profusely😛😕

Edited by legallyblonde21 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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No,I was just thinking about it....Why is it that she is called the dark horse,when she was clearly one of the better dancers of the show....


you might not care two hoots,but i need a plausible explanation,because I feel certain things are being overhyped 😕
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Posted: 18 years ago
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all the facts and reasoning that u have stated seem correct if see it this way n honestly temme wat u think, in her first round i believe as u said she made a 24 n same was the score in the final round, thts a fact...but see both the performances, dont u see a difference? dont u think mona has improves a heck lot? i m not saying tht the juudges r rong coz if u see it this way her first score of 24 was given it being the first round, just the beginning, when the judges did admit tht they were chossing to be lenient since it was the first round, but in the final, they werent lenient, they took off points for every little thing tht they thought was wrong! and therefore she again made a 24 but no one can deny that she has improved a whole lot in the way how she carried herself while dancing, her facial expressions, how she gets into the charcter of the person patraying the song, just about everything!

just my 2 cents 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Buffie, this is for you 👏 👏 👏 . I had been thinking the same but hats off to you for taking the initiative and post this here. I agree with you 110%. I also feel that Mona is being overyhyped. Even in some performances, when she is not so good, still she gets 8 saying it's her lucky no. That pisses me off!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kanta80

Buffie, this is for you 👏 👏 👏 . I had been thinking the same but hats off to you for taking the initiative and post this here. I agree with you 110%. I also feel that Mona is being overyhyped. Even in some performances, when she is not so good, still she gets 8 saying it's her lucky no. That pisses me off!

hmm i dont really agree with u....sometimes i felt tht the judges have given mona lower scores than her perofrmances but i shrugged it off coz its their job n i m no one to point figures at them....but mona i think has never been given higher scores than her performance, she has gotten 7s and 6s too....i remeber one of her performance was relali realli good but i think she got like 8s or 7s in there n i thought she shd have been given 9,it was i thinkkkkkk where in the end she pulled toby's pants or wateve down😆...neways thats wat i think

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazyfan

all the facts and reasoning that u have stated seem correct if see it this way n honestly temme wat u think, in her first round i believe as u said she made a 24 n same was the score in the final round, thts a fact...but see both the performances, dont u see a difference? dont u think mona has improves a heck lot? i m not saying tht the juudges r rong coz if u see it this way her first score of 24 was given it being the first round, just the beginning, when the judges did admit tht they were chossing to be lenient since it was the first round, but in the final, they werent lenient, they took off points for every little thing tht they thought was wrong! and therefore she again made a 24 but no one can deny that she has improved a whole lot in the way how she carried herself while dancing, her facial expressions, how she gets into the charcter of the person patraying the song, just about everything!

just my 2 cents 😊

I for one never refuted the fact that she DID improve...only not as much as its being overhyped and sensationalized,so much so that even dailies carry an article with the tagline"Mona who improved so much"....

I need to add another thing,that Mona SIngh is a fantastic actress,thus emoting and getting into the "skin" of the dance wouldnt be too hard for her,given she is this WONDERFUL actress in television(Muhc better than overhyped prerna and kashish)....Thus it facilitaes her to emote the right way...Its her added advantage,and no taking it away from her

But expressions isnt dance...she is a fantastic actress,and thus it becomes easier for her to pull off the bollywood numbers,where expression is important..but looking at the dance per se,I find her "improvement" to be overhyped

because just saying she gives expressions doesnt constitute improvement...even mahesh used to give all kinds of expressions,that doesnt mean he was a very good dancer..JDJ is a dancing competition,not an acting contest😊..Yes,we need to take the expressions into consideration too,but expressions alone shouldnt the criterion based on which we decide how much one has improved...even the technicalities should be given SOME(I'm not saying all,but SOME) consideration and importance...because dance is also about technicality...Yes,i agree that technicality isnt the ONLY factor,but nevertheless,it is one of the factors,which should be given some importance😊

yes,the judges were stringent in the finals,but isnt the onus to raise the bar lie with the contestants....yes,you might say that in the first round,judges were lineant,thus gave that 24,when it wasnt deserved,but in the finals,the nipicking was more...but as i said,the onus to raise the bar lies with shveta and mona..and your logic should apply to shveta too,shouldnt it..she started with a 27(which,going by your logic was an overrated performance..agreed..so lets analyse further)...and in the finals,her average score was 27.5...thus in her case,her score in the finals,where the judges were extremely stringent was better than her score in the first round...then doesnt it mean that she has improved just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much,that her final score (which wasnt given all that easily) was better than her initial(where the judges were more lineant)....

reiterating,Mona has surely improved,because she did get a 29,which is no mean feat....but i'm just saying that its way too sensationalized and overhyped....she has improved,no doubt,but not as much as its made out to be....improvement in her "facial expressions" doesnt connote the improvement in "dance"..because as I said,mona being a topflight actress ,wouldnt find it too hard to emote or display expressions while dancing,that's something that works to her advantage,which I have no problem with..because in shveta's case,her weight and inborn talent works to her advantage,,....but saying that someone improved a hell lot in DANCE,only because the facial expressions improved cuts no ice with me.....she did improve,but not as much as this is being hyperbolized!

No offense please😊

Edited by Buffie - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i think mona has shown improvement...somethings rnt judged absed solely on scores....overall as a dancer she is way bttr in the last few epis thn the first few.....rem the marking also gets tough as the competition reachs its final stages...I dont support shveta just coz the scores reflect she's a good dancer but coz I can SEE she's the bttr dancer---my common sense tell me she's teh bttr dancer! Yeah tips frm the judges esp farah help but my overall impression is not based on the scores n nor is my judgement on who improved n who didnt...

Although i believe maintaining standards is as imp n thts somethin i admire shveta for.....she maintained her standards till the end....

I jsut feel tht we cant look at this improvement thing solely based on mathematical analysis.....her confidence on stage improved in the latter stages n all of tht counts.... 😛

As for GHT, well they r so bad they bttr improve! 😆 😆 😆 otehrwise even their fans wouldbe ashamed to supprot them! Actually i dont think u can compare NB n JDJ...they r too different shows----NB is more abt having fun on stage...JDJ is more technical.

Expressions r a part of part as well BUffie....Lord NAtraj ocne said tht dance starts n ends with the face (something lik tht....) One of the reasons MAds s so famous is coz of her expressions....

I kwn u rnt denying the improvement mona has shown so far.....yes it is hyped up but I guess it is praise-worthy as well n certainly not ignorable.....

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Posted: 18 years ago
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hey, u r right buffie. i think there were two ppl who showed significant improvement and they were the real dark horses

1) akashdeep
2) sanjeev k

mona did show a lot of improvement and she did, but i guess in the finals, she did make certain mistakes again which is why u feel the lack of improvement. (actually the consistency is probably lacking).
When mona, shveta and mahesh performed, in that eppy, mona had showed tremendous improvement, remember? IMPROVEMENT is OVERHYPED?? yes ofcourse. but improvement she indeed has shown.

Shveta on the other hand, had poor margin. She just rocked the stage from day one.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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no offence taken 😊 !!
yeah i understand wat u r saying n in my previous post i dint mean tht she JUST improved in her facial expressions, i m definelty gonna say tht she improved a wholeeeee lot in dancing too, i mean i just cant deny tht, her dancing itself technically has improved a whole lot!! now about it being overhyped, i dont live in india so i dunno abt tht, n i dont go to ne other site but this one so maybe i dint realzie she was being overhyped but if u r giving it so much importance she must have been over sensationalized n u kno wat, i m not surprised. yes shveta has improved a whole lot too, she started off better than mona and she has definelty made her self better but she has not been as publisized why coz shez not as popular a celebrity as mona, i think. mona is the JASSi one of the most famous and popular characters of televison n in terms of publicity, tht goes in her advantage. n u n me cant really do nething abt it coz thts how the system works, reporters dont always rite wat is true n correct, they wanna rite wat sells!

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