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Posted: 18 years ago
#31
Mona rox... 👏
i want her to win....she has shown a great improvement over the span of the show....
shveta was always a good dancer...but mona is clearly ahead in terms of her learning curve...
n i thought dat dis show was to be about non-dancers learnin to dance... n i think shveta hardly qualifies as a non-dancer!!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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after reading your response, i dont think that you've got the right meaning from what i was saying. first of all, im not saying that we should punish shveta for already having experience, but in all fairness, she really shoudn't be on the show. but now that theese two are in the top 2, i guess in her own way, both are already winners.

when it comes down to you saying that i look for everything except best performance, i dont agree with you there because it makes it sound like your telling me that i vote simply because i like mona and not shveta, and i dont appreciate that outlook. i would like it known first of all, you cant go ahead and say that mona is getting votes just because she's jassi. when it comes down to this competition, i hardly think anyone is voting for her for being jassi, everyone is voting for who they think is best. eg, people voted for mahesh because they thought he was really good, not because hes in the film industry and im voting for mona based on her performances.

at this stage, if you are not a blind shveta fan, then you should know that shveta has dancing background, and you cannot solely base your judgement solely on dance because she will always have a higher grip on dance. in that case, to make it fair, you should also include other factors related to dance such as improvement, taking the judges criticism and working on it, costumes, and the zeal, enthusiasm and energy that it is performed. i am actually a professional dancer and the group witch with i am associated have perfomed in many competitions. you win some, you lose some, but in all cases, if our judges see that for example, one competition that we performed in was a salsa competition, and none of the groups were to have salsa experience. we worked hard and learned, but there was a group of which some members had salsa experience puting everyone else at a lesser chance of winning. in that case, our judges decided to take everything into consideration, including the factors that i have told you, which leaded that group to coming in 4th place and ours 2nd with another group taking the lead which was the fair way to go. when the dancers in the competition are more able then they should be, other factors need to be taken into consideraton.

one of the reasons why i support mona so much is because i have been in her position and i guess i can relate to what shes going through. in all fairness, both girls have their technicality when it comes to dance down pact, and they both have weak points. in all fairness, in technicality, shveta is stronger.

but see, maybe even after reading this you'll think that im wrong, and i dont have a problem with that. everyone is different, and you'll go about judging and voting your way, and i'll go about judging and voting my way as will everyone else. i would just like to wish both dancers well and may they be able to perform to the best of their ability.

and by the way, i like the points you brought up, and i hope i'll be able to see you in the the debate post. 👏 i am also appologizing for anything that i have said to offend you or any other shveta fans, but again, im just stating my opinion as we all have our opinions. well, its actually time for me to run off for class🤢, but untill then, have fun, vote for who you think is best based on your opinion of judging and again, enjoy this cmpetition while it lasts as its coming to an end😭. i hope they have many more seasons to come. 😛

shveta or mona? YOU DECIDE. ❤️

M O N A / S H V E T A to 2525

ps. in all fairness, i think that they should stop this competition here and claim them both as winners and divide the prize between both. they've both come a long way.👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
#33
they both deserve to here on this platform...both of them are really good
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Posted: 18 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: silverwing1527

after reading your response, i dont think that you've got the right meaning from what i was saying. first of all, im not saying that we should punish shveta for already having experience,

Then why say we should give Mona the benefit that she's not a dancer...You seem to contradict your own self😕

but in all fairness, she really shoudn't be on the show.

Yes,but now can if we vote for Mona,only because she isnt as trained as Svetha is,wouldnt that be wrong..Thus,we are commiting another mistake,just to redeem one mistake....

when it comes down to you saying that i look for everything except best performance, i dont agree with you

Really,then why are you bringing in the "experience" factor..Svetha dances the best,so an unbiased person would vote for Svetha😊

there because it makes it sound like your telling me that i vote simply because i like mona and not shveta, and i dont appreciate that outlook.

Well,you seem to giving excuses for Mona's not being at par with Sveth...Thus one does get that impression...

i would like it known first of all, you cant go ahead and say that mona is getting votes just because she's jassi. when it comes down to this competition, i hardly think anyone is voting for her for being jassi,

People vote for her smile,nature,her spunk..attitude,improvemente etc etc...But not dancing..Like I said,people voted for Qazi because he improved,whereas the best singer was ousted,thanks to the scheming of the fellow contestants,and the bias of the audience...Same reason would be cited here,and history would repeat itself

everyone is voting for who they think is best. eg, people voted for mahesh because they thought he was really good, not because hes in the film industry and im voting for mona based on her performances.

I know each ot their own,but One cant be so blind also,that one finds mahesh's performance better than Svetha's...Only people who lack even the basic knowledge of dance,would vote because they find the other contestants better than Svetha😕...As an audience,I guess we have a liability to choose the best,and when we let the clarity of reasoning to be overruled by our personal likes,then the final judgment would be a biased one

at this stage, if you are not a blind shveta fan, then you should know that shveta has dancing background,

WHo is refuting that...But one is only saying that,Svetha being the best dancer should win....If she was chosen,its sony's fault..WHy penalize svetha's effort and her performance for SOny's mistake and one's own favouritism😕

and you cannot solely base your judgement solely on dance because

because one is biased..Period!

she will always have a higher grip on dance. in that case, to make it fair, you should also include other factors related to dance such as improvement, taking the judges criticism and working on it, costumes, and the zeal, enthusiasm and energy that it is performed.

Thus saying give importance to every other factor but dance...great👏

i am actually a professional dancer and the group witch with i am associated have perfomed in many competitions. you win some, you lose some, but in all cases, if our judges see that for example, one competition that we performed in was a salsa competition, and none of the groups were to have salsa experience. we worked hard and learned, but there was a group of which some members had salsa experience puting everyone else at a lesser chance of winning. in that case, our judges decided to take everything into consideration, including the factors that i have told you, which leaded that group to coming in 4th place and ours 2nd with another group taking the lead which was the fair way to go.

hehehehe,how preposterous...In a dancing competition,when troupes vye for the first place,one cant judge on every other factor but dance.....In that way,we can say that though Hrithik is a better dancer than Abhishek,because abhishek is trying,and because he is working hard,he should win the first prize for dancing,when there are better dancers....

when the dancers in the competition are more able then they should be, other factors need to be taken into consideraton.

I wouldnt buy that..In that case,even sanjeev kapoor should have been there..atleast Mona has been doing some ball balle in JJKN,sanjeev claimed that he had never before danced in his life..SO even he should have been voted for...

one of the reasons why i support mona so much is because i have been in her position and i guess i can relate to what shes going through.

This is the main problem with so many people..When someone calls Mona "fat",people revolt..they might be in the heavier side in real life,thus when something is said about mona,they take it -personally😕....If you arent that great a dancer,but have been making efforts,you'd be applauded for your effort,....But when there is a muchhhhhhh better dancer than you,vying for a trophy,one wouldnt vote for you,because you that other person deserves to win.....

in all fairness, both girls have their technicality when it comes to dance down pact, and they both have weak points. in all fairness, in technicality, shveta is stronger.

Yes,and svetha hardly has any weakness...Out of all these performances,only her waltz wasnt upto the mark,everything else was superlative..Mona's weak points are more compared to svetha's...Mona hasnt still perfected the dance,and on the final,she did goof up..Now,I wouldnt buy any excuses..Selling excuses is like selling an excuse for the horrendous performance of the Indian cricket team..The better team would win,and analogously,the better dancer should win...WHen Kenya and Australia play cricket,Australia invariably wins..WOuldnt it be preposterous if one says that the rules have to be different for Kenya,because they are still a weak team,with less exposure...The best should win,there's no other way about it

but see, maybe even after reading this you'll think that im wrong, and i dont have a problem with that. everyone is different, and you'll go about judging and voting your way, and i'll go about judging and voting my way as will everyone else. i would just like to wish both dancers well and may they be able to perform to the best of their ability.

But the ones who really vote based on performance would feel bad right,when the better dancer doesnt win..I'm sure mona would win,she has more support,primarily coz of her image....But the svetha fans,who like her solely because of her dancing would feel despondent right,because the judgment isnt fair...One cant stop the svetha fans from fetting piqued

and by the way, i like the points you brought up, and i hope i'll be able to see you in the the debate post. 👏 i am also appologizing for anything that i have said to offend you or any other shveta fans, but again, im just stating my opinion as we all have our opinions. well, its actually time for me to run off for class🤢, but untill then, have fun, vote for who you think is best based on your opinion of judging and again, enjoy this cmpetition while it lasts as its coming to an end😭. i hope they have many more seasons to come. 😛

No hard feeling....No offense meant

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Posted: 18 years ago
#35
Whoa buffie....u answered it all! 👏 to be realyl honest, im sick of sayin the same stuff again n again......i dont think i need to prove how gr8 a dancer shveta is....thsoe who think otehrwise, r plain ignorant!
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Posted: 18 years ago
#36
I disagree with a lot of your points, silverwing1527. This is just a discussion, so don't take it personally. But you claimed that the judges in your certain competitions took into account the groups' experience, hard work, etc rather than just the dance itself. Well lemme tell you, that's not the norm.. in today's world, one has to claw their way up, with grit and determination, whether you have training or not. In any kind of competition, its the better man that wins. Hands down!

When you take an exam at school/college, and you try really hard to get an A, but you keep getting a "C" or a "B". The teacher, despite knowing how hard you worked for your exams and how much you've improved since the start of the year, would she be able to raise your grades to give you that "A"? No she can't. Likewise, as good of a dancer as Mona is, she should be judged on her abilities, not on how much work she has done, or how far she has come.

Shveta is the better dancer.. whether she is trained or not. First of all, just because she dances so well, doesn't mean she is a true professional. I have some friends who are absolutely amazing dancers, but have had no training whatsoever and have been dancing for many years as a hobby. So there is a difference between what one calls, a "trained dancer" and a "natural dancer." Mona is good too.. actually, i'd say she's great.. i really enjoy her dances (as much as I enjoyed Mahesh's). But I enjoy Shveta's a lot more, just based on her dance, expressions, her overall performances.

Since this is a contest, nothing else but the performances matter. I'll tell you one thing.. I barely watch soaps.. I never watched Jassi (unless my mom-in-law turned on the TV during dinner). I had never seen Shveta in any shows, so I have no bias whatsoever. I don't care about who is popular. I only watch the dances. On top of that, I don't like to base my opinions on gossip either (like Toby ran off, or Shveta is a trained dancer, or Shveta is a snob, etc), because you don't know how true or false they are. Most actors/actresses lie about their ages, so to raise the publics' sensitivity towards them, wouldn't they create a little hype about themselves in the media? Which is why, I try not to pay attention to all of those little articles of gossip and just form my own opinions based on the performances on that stage.
Edited by kiranb06 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: kiranb06


When you take an exam at school/college, and you get a C grade from your normal "A" (since you couldn't do well due to some extenuating circumstances).. the teacher, despite knowing how hard you worked for your exams and what a good student you normally are, would she be able to raise your grades to give you that "A"? No she can't. Likewise, as good of a dancer as Mona is, she should be judged on her abilities, not on how much work she has done, or how far she has come.

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that was a wonderful wonderful analogy Kiranb06👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
#38
this is just a response to all in general. im not going to rebutt as it takes a lot of time 😆 . im doing rebutals in the debate posts if you would like to debate, come on over! and you should, you guys have some very strong points. i would just like to say that no matter how much we argue, fact is, we're all going to vote for our favourites and judge them the way we want to, no matter what anyone says. so good luck to both girls, may the best dancerwoman win 😆

SMS your fav to 2525 👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
#39
I agree with you
shevta should win
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Posted: 18 years ago
#40
Shveta shouldn't win.. she already know how to dance.... and if mona wins it
it will be amazing and it will show true meaning of the show cuz.. from day
one mona didn't know how to dance and she changed at every performance
and she came out....
and it shows how much hard she has worked.... to bring that change..
shweta was good at ballroom dancing already and audience wasn't aware of
it.. so when two ppl already knows how to dance there is no point of
competition... cuz in the other couple one person doesn't know how to
dance...

well Good luck to Mona and Shweta.. may the best WiN...

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