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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

It beats me why everyone brings in Sushant's example in the Isha scenario.
Sushant DIDN't get a 'second chance' last season, neither did he get preferential treatment. He didn't perform for one week so he was given 0/60- obviously he came in the bottom two, performed in the face off and made his way back into the competition. The same thing occured with Daya(when he was ill) and Shekhar (when he blanked out cos he was on medication)- they got 0 or very low marks, came in the bottom two and performed in the face off. Only difference is that Sushant got chosen in the face off and they didn't- the judges liked both Sushant and Yana's performance in the face off so they finally chose to use their veto power (about which we were told WEEKS ahead) and save both of them.
Sushant got no preferential treatment at all last season even though he was the best dancer on the show, so this comparison is totally baseless.



So Isha gets 0/60 and gets saved by votes. The same happened with Sushant except that he didn't get saved by votes and had a face off where judges had to use Veto to save him from elimination. And don't tell me he performed and thus Veto is justified, buddy he didn't get enough votes and thus had to have the face off in the first place unlike Isha. This season, judges had to use Veto since Isha couldn't perform with her injury and saved her from elimination just the way judges saved Sushant from exiting the stage. So based on some people's logic and what I have heard Sushant did get the preferential treatment like Isha, you can deny it all you want.

And both Sushant and Isha's injury can't be judged at the same level. Thus judges' decision of using Veto was done at different levels as well. Every decision can't be black or white. Such decisions are subjective based on many factors from their injuries to scores, to performances, to consistency, to how good a dancer one is, and what is their worth on the stage and that's exactly what judges did.

If one is unfair so is other, you can't say one is more fairer than other cuz end of the day what is unfair is unfair.

P.S: From what I have heard, I don't care if judges used Veto on these two or that people think it is unfair. For me good dancers have proved themselves to be worthy of Veto. And this is must have been the judges' line of thought when they decided to give these two good dancers another chance.

Edited by -Chandramukhi- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
The show is about amateur and non-dancers paired up with choreographers to complete. Though Isha is an extraordinary dancer, i am not sure she should have been in the show to start with, simply because she is an extraordinary dancer and way ahead of the rest of the contestants.
Although it was always a treat to watch Isha, I see her more as a choreographer rather than a contestant. Having to compete with her was always tough for most other contestants anyway. I do agree that she was given a VIP treatment by judges (they pleaded to vote for her and used their veto power to keep her) I don't think that was fair to others that performed (while Isha couldn't)
Having said that, I feel Bharti was right in feeling hurt. We all knew that her faceoff with Rashmi would have eliminated her as judges would have picked Rashmi over her.
If one expected Bharti to get credit for her dancing and not comedy because it's a Dance competition then putting a dancer like Isha to start wth was an unfair competition for many other non dancer celebreties. They might as well have had Madhuri compete with likes of Bharti.
If they really wanted Isha to stay, they should have kept all five finalists and avoid any elimination or faceoff yesterday (they did that with Rohan in DID finals)
I feel they were very unfair to Bharti and partial to Isha. I was also surprised that Madhuri did not correct the situation and rather went with it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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People that keep saying judges did all this because Isha proved herself. Isha is a well-trained extraordinary dancer to start with so I'd assume most performances were not at all difficult for her. For Bhati and Sushil, who were non dancers, any dance was a lot of efforts on their part.
If you look at the original Dancing with the Stars, the format is picking celebraties that are non dancers , not expert dancers.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So we are back to the same old argument, dancer can't compete in JDJ. "Dancing with the stars", stars can be a good dancer or bad. That's why we see Rashmi, Rithivik or Isha on the stage cuz they are stars but very good dancers.

And if having dancers on the stage was unfair than giving more lime light to Bharti for her lame jokes was unfair as well. I don't why she doesn't have any issues with that when other contestants didn't get the same treatment. But I guess people can only see the injustice done to them and not others. Height of hypocrisy. And people are applauding her guts when she herself is in the wrong shoes to do so.The same people who are siding her should know that their favorite did not get the proper screen time because of her. But why would that matter when they can target Isha. Oh well.

So basically the list of unfairness will be endless and I am sure it can be applied to most of the contestants, some more than others.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: suresh555

People that keep saying judges did all this because Isha proved herself. Isha is a well-trained extraordinary dancer to start with so I'd assume most performances were not at all difficult for her. For Bhati and Sushil, who were non dancers, any dance was a lot of efforts on their part.

If you look at the original Dancing with the Stars, the format is picking celebraties that are non dancers , not expert dancers.



I think it's better to stick with Indian version of JDJ cuz that is what we see on stage. It is a done deal and channel doesn't have any issues. And just cuz someone is a dancer, undermining their hard work to put others on a pedestal is not a done deal. Shows how one can cover their favorite's weakness by doing so. For me everyone works hard one way or other. One might have to work hard in some department while others in some other. GC being an actor is pro at expressions while the same might not apply to Sushil or Bharti. So are we saying going to undermine GC's expression, I don't think so. So some come with good dancing skills, while other with expressions while someone else with some other aspect of the performance. But whatever floats your boat.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: DIDfan89


I agree with you but, I think it is also wrong to "justify" Isha's excemption based on the fact that she is a a better dancer.
Isha is a much better dancer than Bharti, for sure. No questions about that. Infact Bharti is NOTHING compared to Isha. However, as co-contestants, despite the level of performance they give, they shud still be treated the same. There shouldnt be an exception made for Isha because she is a "better dancer". Bharti deserves the same respect as well, even though her level of dance is quite low, even she has done quite difficult things for a person of her weight. Its a competition afterall, Isha should hae just opted out.
I also like Isha as well so dont get me wrong.



Rightly said!!! Its just plain discrimination that happened in Jhalak this yr !!
Bharti might not b gr8 dancer but her human rights r equal to that of isha!!!
Her anger is justified as she went thru huge challenge being over-weight too!!!
Too bad no other contestant voiced except her to say it like 'a spade a spade!'
Every yr veto was used only once, As veto could b used only once but judges used it twice this yr!!

(this is not called bashing isha, its just critisism on show format & isha is involved thats all!)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Isha is a Better dancer for sure but JDJ/Colors/Judges should be fair to all the contestants if they are sick etc. I agree with Bharti. So what if she is not that good dancer? 😕 It is about health and she was sick too. Just because Isha is a good dancer than means special treatment for her? It is like in a class where a teacher is biased to one student because she is good and unfair to others. It will hurt the other students no matter what. They should have been fair to every contestant, especially when it is about health, and being a good dancer or bad dancer should depend on SCORES AND VOTES ONLY. However, I disagree with her saying having good scores and all. Also about bringing TRPs. 👎🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
i love bharti what ever seh said and done

she was suffering with her back problem since 1 month or maybe a bit more
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think Bharti has a valid point. But obviously the timing is all wrong, so naturally people will doubt her intention.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Bharti did speak the truth that Isha got second chance. However Bharti was the weakest dancer. Even if she got the chance she would still lose.
After seeing Isha's today's performance, she deserved second chance. Can't say same for bharti.

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