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Posted: 12 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: --GODFATHER--
CAN someone tell me --

Were VOTING lines open for ISHA? IF yes- DID she NOT get enough votes to be saved from any eliminations ?@@ She should considering she was one of the BEST in the SHOW -- / @

VETO essentially overrides public OPINION --@ So not sure why JUDGES took this decision -- I would personally like ISHA to be saved only from votes (coz that heavily dictates what most people want) and not by any VETO ---- but i guess we don't know enough details YET _--@

this voting system is all rigged and planned by producers ofcourse like always have been

they already decided the winner

and few of us already come to know who that person is 🥱

isha voting lines was opened.. judges took the decision at the last minute to save her by veto power so no votes giving to her next week as she is too good 😆

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Posted: 12 years ago

#32

They did?!! I knew they would've only used this veto power for Isha, maybe Rashmi too but no one else had that big of an impact on the judges.

My teacher always used to ask what is more important, to be just? or to be fair? If they sent Isha to the smifinal then it was just. No matter how much some of you dislike her or don't understand her dancing, she is a marvelous dancer. It sucks if she is not versatile enough for you even though her acts included a lot of variety. Salman and Isha were the best couple in the show and from the beginning weeks if we know one couple that deserved to be in the final, it was them. Letting them go on to the semifinal is a just choice. It would be wrong to not let them be in the final.

But is it fair? no! It's unfair to take her and take the chance away from someone who danced every week.

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#33

First, they appeal for votes despite no performance two weeks, consecutively. Secondly, the judges use their veto power just to save them despite no performance. Its completely unfair from every angle, technically or otherwise. Only those with blinders would call this justice. Pratyusha was sick too yet they kicked her out. Why? I don't buy the exit due to low votes excuse...Pratyusha obviously was much better than Susheel etc. that were there when she got eliminated. Deepak is a fabulous choreographer. Did he not deserve to show his teaching skills? Of course he did. But no...second chances are only reserved for Isha and Salman. It does not matter if they are the world's best dancers...if its a no show, you go home...plain and simple. Entering the semi-finals despite two weeks of absence plus veto is outrageous.

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#34

Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila
First, they appeal for votes despite no performance two weeks, consecutively. Secondly, the judges use their veto power just to save them despite no performance. Its completely unfair from every angle, technically or otherwise. Only those with blinders would call this justice. Pratyusha was sick too yet they kicked her out. Why? I don't buy the exit due to low votes excuse...Pratyusha obviously was much better than Susheel etc. that were there when she got eliminated. Deepak is a fabulous choreographer. Did he not deserve to show his teaching skills? Of course he did. But no...second chances are only reserved for Isha and Salman. It does not matter if they are the world's best dancers...if its a no show, you go home...plain and simple. Entering the semi-finals despite two weeks of absence plus veto is outrageous.

VETO power has been used last season and it is used this season as well, format of the show, up to the judges, you can question them but won't change the fact. I have the same issue with WCs, I don't think they deserve to win, but if one of them were to, I can't do anything about it, it's the format of the show. Also as I mentioned in the other thread, Isha's fan vote for her as well, how is it fair to ignore those votes especially when the format of the show is based on voting, that in itself is unfair, that means no matter what JDJ is based on unfairness 😕 Bharti being saved week after week with mediocre performance, how is that fair, GC got saved on votes when he got lowest scores, how was that fair. All in all when votes predominant the reality show, questioning fairness of the show is not worth the time. Simply my 2 cents. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I.

@bold: You're simply going off tangent, cuz such things won't be proved just as no one can prove if the show is scripted. Deepak is a good choreographer, but this show is about celebrity and you can't say pratyashu was the best thing for JDJ that judges should have used VETO on her 😲 She didn't even impress the audience let alone the judges. Also, Deepak got a second chance with Rashmi, I can't say the same for other eliminated choreographers, so how is it fair to them. So you seen there are million things which can pointed out to showcase the unfairness. Everyone can't be and won't be satisfied.

Edited by -Chandramukhi- - 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Chandramukhi-

VETO power has been used last season and it is used this season as well, format of the show, up to the judges, you can question them but won't change the fact. I have the same issue with WCs, I don't think they deserve to win, but if one of them were to, I can't do anything about it, it's the format of the show. Also as I mentioned in the other thread, Isha's fan vote for her as well, how is it fair to ignore those votes especially when the format of the show is based on voting, that in itself is unfair, that means no matter what JDJ is based on unfairness 😕 Bharti being saved week after week with medipcre performance, who is that fair, GC got saved on votes when it got lowest scores, how was that fair. All in all when votes predominant the reality show, questioning fairness of the show is not worth the time. Simply my 2 cents. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I.

I can't talk about last season because this is the first time I'm watching this show. So let's stick to the point. As for the point underlined, you're wrong there. According to the format, its a do the crime-do the time situation. Votes are only supposed to be handed out based on that week's performance according to the format of the show. Isha-Salman did not dance last week and they apparently will not this week either. Yet, they ask for votes. This was not the format of the show at all. The other contestants were not informed of this. As for your wild card entry point, that's an invalid comparison. Everyone on the show was aware of the mid-show wild card entry format. It was in their contracts. But this receiving of votes without performing wasn't the format. Based on that fact alone, the veto is moot and completely unfair. If they had danced and were about to be eliminated on account of low votes, I would have found the veto completely fair. But as of now, sorry...nope...it ain't fair.

Edited by Dexterkilaila - 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila

I can't talk about last season because this is the first time I'm watching this show. So let's stick to the point. As for the point underlined, you're wrong there. According to the format, its a do the crime-do the time situation. Votes are only supposed to be handed out based on that week's performance according to the format of the show. Isha-Salman did not dance last week and they apparently will not this week either. Yet, they ask for votes. This was not the format of the show at all. The other contestants were not informed of this. As for your wild card entry point, that's an invalid comparison. Everyone on the show was aware of the mid-show wild card entry format. It was in their contracts. But this receiving of votes without performing wasn't the format. Based on that fact alone, the veto is moot and completely unfair. If they had danced and were about to be eliminated on account of low votes, I would have found the veto completely fair. But as of now, sorry...nope...it ain't fair.

So I agree with what you say except we don't know what their contracts stated regarding the injury situation. At least I don't know and nor I do know if the contract suggested new entries for WCs. As per all the seasons, only the eliminated contestants were brought back as WCs (that at least might have made more sense to me). So I don't have a clue about their contracts. I simply go based on what I see on the stage where a contestant not deserving at all is on the stage giving out mediocre performance week by week.

And it isn't voters fault that they voted for Isha during her non performance week, it is the way they formatted the show based on the situation, I can't help it nor can others who have voted for her. So if her asking for votes without performance is unfair and so is ignoring the voters who are voting for her every week. You can't have the cake and eat it too.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila
First, they appeal for votes despite no performance two weeks, consecutively. Secondly, the judges use their veto power just to save them despite no performance. Its completely unfair from every angle, technically or otherwise. Only those with blinders would call this justice. Pratyusha was sick too yet they kicked her out. Why? I don't buy the exit due to low votes excuse...Pratyusha obviously was much better than Susheel etc. that were there when she got eliminated. Deepak is a fabulous choreographer. Did he not deserve to show his teaching skills? Of course he did. But no...second chances are only reserved for Isha and Salman. It does not matter if they are the world's best dancers...if its a no show, you go home...plain and simple. Entering the semi-finals despite two weeks of absence plus veto is outrageous.

Not only that Dex, but last week Salman was allowed to perform. I have not followed every season of JDJ, but I have watched from JDJ3 onwards...and I have never seen the choreographer/ professional partner perform when the actual celebrity contestant can't perform for whatever reason. Last season, Vrushali did not perform when Daya couldn't, Shampa did not perform when Sushant couldn't...and forget that, this season only...Deepak did not perform when Pratyusha couldn't. So why in the world was Salman allowed to perform? Rue bending for Salman-Isha ehh? 🥱 The channel, judges, the production house does not even TRY to hide their bias for Salman-Isha.

No performance for 2 straight weeks and a veto power being used straight into the semis is totally unfair. She's badly injured and can't perform, I wish her a speedy recovery but this is a competition at the end of the day. If you can't perform once, fine you can let it go...but twice is pushing it. And on top of that the judges using a veto power out of the blue? Did she PERFORM for this veto power to be used or did the judges randomly decide ki oh okay, we should save her based on previous performances???

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#38

Originally posted by: -Chandramukhi-

So I agree with what you say except we don't know what their contracts stated regarding the injury situation. At least I don't know and nor I do know if the contract suggested new entries for WCs. As per all the seasons, only the eliminated contestants were brought back as WCs (that at least might have made more sense to me). So I don't have a clue about their contracts. I simply go based on what I see on the stage where a contestant not deserving at all is on the stage giving out mediocre performance week by week.

And it isn't voters fault that they voted for Isha during her non performance week, it is the way they formatted the show based on the situation, I can't help it nor can others who have voted for her. So if her asking for votes without performance is unfair and so is ignoring the voters who are voting for her every week. You can't have the cake and eat it too.

Now we are just gonna have to go around in circles. IF the voters were not asked for votes for a no-show, they wouldn't be voting in the first place. Its as simple as that. Since Isha asked for votes, they voted. If she had been eliminated or had opted out (as is the most gracious thing to do in this scenario), the voters would have voted for someone else or no one at all.

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Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila

Now we are just gonna have to go around in circles. IF the voters were not asked for votes for a no-show, they wouldn't be voting in the first place. Its as simple as that. Since Isha asked for votes, they voted. If she had been eliminated or had opted out (as is the most gracious thing to do in this scenario), the voters would have voted for someone else or no one at all.

I'll simply state what this other member had stated, who knows may be Isha did want to quit or opt out, but may be she is bound with the contract. After all channels do want to churn out all the money they can get. Simply stating an alternative. We don't know what happens behind the curtain. Anything is possible with them. I do agree with you from your POV how you might see this being unfair. But I am simply saying that many unfair things have happened and will happen on this stage. And you and me can simply express our disappointment like I am utterly disappointed and think Bharti being on the stage is the biggest examples of being unfair to others cuz it she seems to be judges not only on dance but also her comedy.

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Originally posted by: chocolover89
Not only that Dex, but last week Salman was allowed to perform. I have not followed every season of JDJ, but I have watched from JDJ3 onwards...and I have never seen the choreographer/ professional partner perform when the actual celebrity contestant can't perform for whatever reason. Last season, Vrushali did not perform when Daya couldn't, Shampa did not perform when Sushant couldn't...and forget that, this season only...Deepak did not perform when Pratyusha couldn't. So why in the world was Salman allowed to perform? Rue bending for Salman-Isha ehh? 🥱 The channel, judges, the production house does not even TRY to hide their bias for Salman-Isha.

No performance for 2 straight weeks and a veto power being used straight into the semis is totally unfair. She's badly injured and can't perform, I wish her a speedy recovery but this is a competition at the end of the day. If you can't perform once, fine you can let it go...but twice is pushing it. And on top of that the judges using a veto power out of the blue? Did she PERFORM for this veto power to be used or did the judges randomly decide ki oh okay, we should save her based on previous performances???

@bold, he performed for entertainment only cuz international choreographer needed someone to perform with. Did they get scores, nope, they got 0/60. If they got scores for his performance, I would have understood your stand. But that didn't happen so, I don't understand that argument.

Rest your opinion.

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