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Posted: 20 years ago
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Thats true. U should not speak about all this till u are not through with it.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Devil_drivers, I have no idea what you look like, and I don't know about your husband-to-be.... but you are definitely more Mauna Loa than Mona Lisa!!!!👏!!!!!!

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Posted: 20 years ago
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i guess i did not get my point through jp, jassidevi, minnie and all other. being wild is not a bad thing nor is being simpleton, however we need to look further than the appearances and also how it works with your dreams and personality. i see everyone quoting an example where things worked out...but for every single example that worked out against odd...i can quote 10 others that did not work out.the bottom line is that you need to be careful and think long term when making a commitment. also love does not triumph all and emotions are finicky....this is a bitter fact(the older you grow , more you realise this)

as for you devildriver....someday you will end up with someone who will be right for you(you may start with love or not).

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: pj04

i guess i did not get my point through jp, jassidevi, minnie and all other. being wild is not a bad thing nor is being simpleton, however we need to look further than the appearances and also how it works with your dreams and personality. i see everyone quoting an example where things worked out...but for every single example that worked out against odd...i can quote 10 others that did not work out.the bottom line is that you need to be careful and think long term when making a commitment. also love does not triumph all and emotions are finicky....this is a bitter fact(the older you grow , more you realise this)

as for you devildriver....someday you will end up with someone who will be right for you(you may start with love or not).

Puja,it is not about whether it worked out or not.It is about getting an opportunity to exercise that choice. It's true that whatever we are is what we choose. Whether what we choose is right or wrong is based largely on luck and the determination to work at something with both being equally important. I have seen girls who are lucky in love and they take pride in saying that if the guy was otherwise they would not have choosen him. I say that when we do fall in love,we seldom wait to find out whether he is right or wrong. It is after we fall that we find that out. These girls are lucky because their choice did not turn out to be a deceit ,say six months down the line !! I am lucky in love because my husband did not turn out to be a cad six months after I got married to him. Unfortunately I have seen a large chunk of those unlucky ones as well. My cousin's marriage would not have worked out if she had not really worked at it. She chose it and she is living it out and when today everything is settled,she has come out to be the winner.

My personal view is that arranged marriages are always more successful than emotion based love marriages. However the question here is not that. The question is whether it is right to fall in love with the wrong guy. My pov is,do we really get to choose whom we do fall in love with ?????

The second point is,when we do fall in love,then what?? My best friend chose to break up at her parent's insistence, married a guy of their choice who was a very nice and yet was divorced 5 years later. Why and whereforth is immaterial. Today she has a kid and is single and wonders what it would have been like if she had stuck to her choice. Maybe she would have failed but then the choice would have been her's and sometimes it makes me think she definitely would have tried harder to save a marriage of her own choice. There are girls who stick to their decision because they made it in the frist place and there are others who don't think twice before dumping the person and moving on. That is when the matter of choice comes in. I think while falling in love cannot be controlled,the decision to stick to it can be. Having said that, I don't think we can ever predict that all the carefully weighed decisions will ultimately turn out to be right.

In context of Jassi, I do think she decided to move on. That she is unable to stop loving Armaan does show the depth of her emotions. I think I respect her more for it because it would have been so easy for anyone to go for a greener pasture and that in case is Purab. Jassi can be everything we blame her for, but fickle and opportunistic she is not. She is human and has many failings but this is where I can still relate to her.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Wow Devil... That was great... I am sure the guy you will marry is going to be real lucky...

I think marriages love or arranged are a matter of luck or its kind of a gamble. I have seen both arranged or love marriages fall apart in real life.

I think I am lucky I was able to marry the person I fell in love with and can say that it was not a bad choice at all. And I personally cant imagine myself if my marriage was arranged. I dont have anything against arranged marriages but I dont know I cannot imagine getting married and spending my life with someone who I know for a very short time.

Just a personal opinion and not intended to hurt anybody's feelings..

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: Minnie

Puja,it is not about whether it worked out or not.It is about getting an opportunity to exercise that choice. It's true that whatever we are is what we choose. Whether what we choose is right or wrong is based largely on luck and the determination to work at something with both being equally important. I have seen girls who are lucky in love and they take pride in saying that if the guy was otherwise they would not have choosen him. I say that when we do fall in love,we seldom wait to find out whether he is right or wrong. It is after we fall that we find that out. These girls are lucky because their choice did not turn out to be a deceit ,say six months down the line !! I am lucky in love because my husband did not turn out to be a cad six months after I got married to him. Unfortunately I have seen a large chunk of those unlucky ones as well. My cousin's marriage would not have worked out if she had not really worked at it. She chose it and she is living it out and when today everything is settled,she has come out to be the winner.

My personal view is that arranged marriages are always more successful than emotion based love marriages. However the question here is not that. The question is whether it is right to fall in love with the wrong guy. My pov is,do we really get to choose whom we do fall in love with ?????

The second point is,when we do fall in love,then what?? My best friend chose to break up at her parent's insistence, married a guy of their choice who was a very nice and yet was divorced 5 years later. Why and whereforth is immaterial. Today she has a kid and is single and wonders what it would have been like if she had stuck to her choice. Maybe she would have failed but then the choice would have been her's and sometimes it makes me think she definitely would have tried harder to save a marriage of her own choice. There are girls who stick to their decision because they made it in the frist place and there are others who don't think twice before dumping the person and moving on. That is when the matter of choice comes in. I think while falling in love cannot be controlled,the decision to stick to it can be. Having said that, I don't think we can ever predict that all the carefully weighed decisions will ultimately turn out to be right.

In context of Jassi, I do think she decided to move on. That she is unable to stop loving Armaan does show the depth of her emotions. I think I respect her more for it because it would have been so easy for anyone to go for a greener pasture and that in case is Purab. Jassi can be everything we blame her for, but fickle and opportunistic she is not. She is human and has many failings but this is where I can still relate to her.



wow, Minnie! 👏 That was a beautiful!
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Minnie, I agree with you. Falling in love not knowing about the person is different. Because you really don't know that person and love is unrestricted and sometimes it is hard not to fall for that person. But at the outset when you fall for a person not knowing about him..is totally a physical attraction.

Falling in love in spite of knowing all the shortcoming, in spite of knowing that person has a multiple identity syndrome, in spite of knowing that person is a wrench and will not stand up for you, in spite of knowing that he/she is not competent of reciprocating that love back to you….what would you call that?
I think we are talking the same thing but are not able to correspond the right idea across.

I think we have seen excellent and dreadful examples of each case and what I personally do not agree is the idea of "Taming the beast". Why do people think they can transform someone and fall in love with that person? Love is pure when you do not anticipate back in return. Why do people fall in love expecting that person to change for you? Can we change for the beast? Can we forfeit our self-respect for the beast, then I would acknowledge that is love. But it is one sided and if you are lucky the beast may realize your importance and change for your sake and that is when you are successful and if not beast may continue to be worse and shatter you into chunks.




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Posted: 20 years ago
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Minnie, Smisha, Puja, Devil_Drivers...hmmmm.... yeah..... uhhhhh..... hmmmm.... well.... (jprasad thinking)....but....uhhhhh.... see.....oh gosh

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: Minnie

Puja,it is not about whether it worked out or not.It is about getting an opportunity to exercise that choice. It's true that whatever we are is what we choose. Whether what we choose is right or wrong is based largely on luck and the determination to work at something with both being equally important. I have seen girls who are lucky in love and they take pride in saying that if the guy was otherwise they would not have choosen him. I say that when we do fall in love,we seldom wait to find out whether he is right or wrong. It is after we fall that we find that out. These girls are lucky because their choice did not turn out to be a deceit ,say six months down the line !! I am lucky in love because my husband did not turn out to be a cad six months after I got married to him. Unfortunately I have seen a large chunk of those unlucky ones as well. My cousin's marriage would not have worked out if she had not really worked at it. She chose it and she is living it out and when today everything is settled,she has come out to be the winner.

My personal view is that arranged marriages are always more successful than emotion based love marriages. However the question here is not that. The question is whether it is right to fall in love with the wrong guy. My pov is,do we really get to choose whom we do fall in love with ?????

The second point is,when we do fall in love,then what?? My best friend chose to break up at her parent's insistence, married a guy of their choice who was a very nice and yet was divorced 5 years later. Why and whereforth is immaterial. Today she has a kid and is single and wonders what it would have been like if she had stuck to her choice. Maybe she would have failed but then the choice would have been her's and sometimes it makes me think she definitely would have tried harder to save a marriage of her own choice. There are girls who stick to their decision because they made it in the frist place and there are others who don't think twice before dumping the person and moving on. That is when the matter of choice comes in. I think while falling in love cannot be controlled,the decision to stick to it can be. Having said that, I don't think we can ever predict that all the carefully weighed decisions will ultimately turn out to be right.

In context of Jassi, I do think she decided to move on. That she is unable to stop loving Armaan does show the depth of her emotions. I think I respect her more for it because it would have been so easy for anyone to go for a greener pasture and that in case is Purab. Jassi can be everything we blame her for, but fickle and opportunistic she is not. She is human and has many failings but this is where I can still relate to her.

Minnie, I guess the point also is how mature are you to make that decision.. But if you have taken the responsibility to make that decision then stick to it.. Sorry if I sound rude.. but in your frind's case, it was her decision to dump her lover and go with her parents choice.. It was her decision to not work harder.. We always can think what might have been but alas, as they say " even a fool is wiser after the incident"..

As for love, I really feel it is a highly over-rated emotion..I attribute this to our history and movies glorifying it.. People say it happens but I don't think it is totally out of your control.. it is entirely up to 2 individuals and how they deal with a suitation..

Hey devil, I am sure there is someone just right for you waiting somewhere.. as they say, couples are made in heaven.. .

wait but you are going to hell.. well, I am sure there is a deamon waiting for you.. 😉, just kidding..

Edited by lakshmi_maruthi - 20 years ago
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Posted: 20 years ago
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the question raised is ...can we control who we fall in love with?...yes and no....there is always a pivotal moment in every relationship(more so in love). you decide if you are going to resist it or are going to let yourself go...should you decide to let yourself go ...you are in love , if you resist...there might be a little frustation emotionally but you have gotten over. once the moment passes, so does love(or atleast the sensation of it).it is a myth that you have absolutely no control over whom you love. let us ask these questions and answer them honestly

1) most of us love our parents unconditionally but would we still love them if they countinuosly humiliated and abused us.....(if they answer is no....this goes to show even the most basic and purest form of love changes over time)

2)you are happily married(by most standards), however you are attracted to a collegue(feels like love). can you resist it?, would you dump your family for this feeling? is this love better than what you feel for your husband of few years(okay so yours was not a love but arranged marraige)....if you say you will resist without feeling regret....(you have controlled your emotions and stopped them before they grow into something one cannot deal with)

while we can not always control emotions(that would be inhuman) but letting them run beserk is a complete affront to the thing called brains.

now for second part....people try to save thier marraige if it is of thier choice.....they have to do it , there is no choice...it is an ego issue now...if you fail...every tom and harry will tell you "i told you so".but mostly as laks said ...it depends on your maturity level.......if life deals you bad cards ...do you weep over it and try to walk out of the game without even trying or do you try to make best out of the situation and hope you win.

most people don't realise that a divorce leaves many raw scars that haunt you through out your life even if the marraige was unwanted in the first place.

Edited by pj04 - 20 years ago

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