mermaid_QT
"i am not saying everybody should do it, in fact, most of you are too young and shouldn't even think about it. but at jassi's age and achievement, it can be justified. her's wasn't puppy love. she made an educated decision and she had the courage and capacity totake care the consequential kid by herself, hence i justify her."
I hope I don't get too carried away with this because I feel very strongly about this topic. I don't want to hurt anyone as everyone has a right to have an opinion. I think that easiest thing is to question someone's values and morals while most people are unable to account for their own.
With Armaan Jassi has a relationship which is not new and it has evolved from being a one-sided, puppy love (even though she was not e teenager then) to her only committment. Jassi was an overprotected girl like all of us grew up as overprotected girls. As an emancipated individual I would justify her even if she has a kid from this and I don't see any reason for her to run to Malaysia for this. I don't care much about her class or for that matter any class in society. If by class what we mean is socio economic status then it is your education and how successfully you are employed that defines your class, not the class of the family you are born in. We are not what we learn from our family alone. A sum total of an individual is what he/she learns from the family, school and ones own experience and in the end it is our personal experience that takes precedence over the family and school in shaping our character. You cannot compare a girl who grows up and as a dutiful and obedient daughter gets married to the man chosen by the family and then starts living by the norms of the society to a girl who grows up with an ambition in mind to be somebody stnading on her own feet like Jassi wanting to get a good job that gives her good experience. By no means am I undermining the first individual here. It is a character sketch of my sister who too was raised by my parents, went to the same school as I did. She is mother of two sons aged 14 and 13, but I'm sure leave her at an airport or bus-stand and she will be in tears because she couldn't find her plane or bus. With the same upbringing we are poles apart. But can I undermine her. By no means. She is successfully married, mother of two and it takes a lot to raise kids and live in a joint family where in-laws keep degrading you every single second. I have a failed marriage behind me with ex in-laws who openly use to claim that finally they have got someone to get even with for what their in-laws did to them. So I had my choices - to pay for the wrong doings of people I didn't even know and have high morals and values or move out of the arrangement and give everyone a chance to question my morals and values. My mother who was last year deploring me for my failure, now stands proud and says she has had so much to learn from me. My mother who taught me how to walk, talk, read, write, cross-stich, knit, stitch, cook has things to learn from me! And she belongs to what has been called "middle-class" here. As a society we have evolved from no education for women, sati and what not to a society where even "middle-class" thinks that daughters should have successful careers like their sons. But yet in that very society the "middle-class" sons get to experience everything, but for daughters it is taboo. This is not about promoting PMS. But this is about how responsibile an individual is. Jassi is not a teeny-weeny, girl right out of college who still asks her father for pocket money. She is someone who manages her own accounts and she has the right to make a decision if she wants to sleep with someone she loves. Armaan is just technically married to Mallika, but it is such a sham marriage. He and Mallika got married in a Hindu religious ceremony. In the Hindu religion there is no divorce. Yet the society has evolved to accept a legal document to undo a religious ceremony. Then why hold a sham marriage in the way and question their morality. This in my opinion is hypocrisy, accepting divorce in a religion where it didn't exist and then question morals of the partner involved in the sham sleeping with someone he truly loves.
luv_ranveer wrote:
"And the same man is allowing his daughter to have premarital sex and staying in another man's house as fake bahu. I think he has learnt to live on his daughter's earning no matter how she gets that money !!! And Jassi where does her sanskar go when she without any hesitation is ready to go to a married man's bed !!! Sorry but she can never be a simple middle class girl. Infact she is the biggest slap on the simplicity and self respect of Middle class."
Jassi is going out of the way to help Raghav and it is not very realistic or practical. But in the whole serial I have not seen her earning money by any unfair means. She doesn't take the money to start her buisness from the fake sasur and even in the bank she refuses to use the snobz name to get the loan. The story definitely has its week points. But her father's standard of living has never changed. She had money as a model, she has money now that she runs her own company, but Billu's standard has never changed. He travelled by trains and buses and he is still travelling by trains and buses. We all keep growing as individuals. Our parents sometimes don't approve of what we are doing and yet at the sametime our grandparents approve of those very things that they wouldn't have approved off as parents themselves. Same goes with the parents. They didn't approve of so many things years ago, but today they let you do something that you never would have dreamed to get approval for. Remember Simran's Dad in DDLJ. He let her go for Eurorail trip alone! And my father from a small town in the periphery of India let me go to med school in russia, whereas my sister, just two years older than me was married at the age of 21, at 22 she was changing diapers. I would see her married and living with her in-laws and I would see my future, so miserable. She herself was a kid. She had her final year law exam and the next day was her wedding. When I met her 6 months after the wedding she had changed from a girl who would laugh every waking moment to someone it seemed who had never smiled in their life. It was an horrendous experience for me, I don't know how she has lived through it and still does. It must have been a shock for my father too and maybe he let me do what I wanted because he felt it was the need of time and age we were living in. Staying away from home, from the protection that you take so for granted is like being born again. Its a new life where you are responsible for your every single action. You can go overbaord and ruin yourself and fail your parents upbringing or become responsible for yourself and be successful. And then it is your personal experience that counts above everything else that you grow up with. When you proove yourself then it is your life and your world and you are answerable to yourself, not the standards and values and norms set by the society. Even log bhi har chadte suraj ko salaam marte hain, they don't question their values or morals. Jassi is a person who is totally self-reliant. She has always said main jaisi hoon waisi hoon. She believes in herself, but has never forced her beliefs on anyone. It has always been "take it or leave it" with Purab, with Armaan and in most situations. Now the story has gone overboard. But to begin with I don't think she has ever been seeking approval, she knew what her father would not approve of, yet she has taken her own decisions. Every individual have their own strenghts and weaknesses. So for this ugly looking secretary her charismatic, handsome boss is her one weakness. She simply melts every time she sees him. Its not just her desire for the man who is committed to someone else, but stand in her shoes and feel - with her looks she can never have this man she loves and then he showers her with his attention. Anyone would loose their senses. And she was always aware that Armaan was engaged to Mallika and would never be hers. Why weigh mere mortals on such a heavy scale of morals and values? Armaan at that time was quiet on the lower side of the heavy scale. For him his engagement to Mallika was always an arrangement and we shouldn't be deploring that as our society supports arranged marriages big time. But yes, two timing both his ugly secretary and fiancee is a little too much. But then he did come to a realization where he decided that he couldn't stay with Mallika and decided to go for Jassi - the ugly Jassi and that single decision of his throws too much light on the strength of his character. He married Mallika on the rebound, but no one had forced Mallika to go with his decision. She had decided not to marry Armaan right after the board meeting and then at what time she again got obssessed with getting married to Armaan is the weak point of the story. Today her marriage to Armaan is a legal formality and it doesn't even look as if she will be willing to divorce Armaan. So if one spouse refuses to divorce, you can't stop the other spouse from moving forward.