Legends of Radha-Krishna... - Page 4

Originally posted by: sita11

very well said raj !!!👏

yes LORD KRISHNA broke the pride of durvasa rishi (baby Krishna broke the pride of durwasa rishi)😛

Originally posted by Lalitha:-

Originally posted by: set_raj

Originally posted by Lalitha:-

By the way, I would like to apologize to you for being rude in the Ramayan Forum in that thread you created.☺️ You were posting really valuable info and I should have given you the respect you deserved for it. So if you would like to forget what happened there, I would like to start fresh again and look forward to discussing Radhaji and anything else with you. 😊

Thanks a ton lalitha,👏👏👏 you are a gem of a person, very kind and humble..👏👏👏i am so happy tht ur in our forum...this is wat i called lionhearted, sporting spirit person one who realises his or her mistakes and ask for forgiveness and make a new start..👏👏👏

Well done Lalitha...you are a true Gem...👏👏👏

God Bless You..👏👏👏

I would like to request that whatever happened in past just forget and start a fresh and be good and great friends...😊😊😊

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Thanks for the info angelz, it was very enlightening and interesting to read.😊

Your mosttt welcome 😊

About the info you wrote on Radharani and Lakshmiji...I don't think the arguments about Radha being Lakshmi or Radha not being an avatar but Radha herself arise out of people not reading scriptures. Definitely some people base their arguments on half and half knowledge, but those people who believe Radhaji is the same as Rukminiji, as in both being avatars of Lakshmiji, base their arguements on scriptures that actually say that. Our religion is not comprised of few scriptures but many. Many many great rishis and sages wrote scriptures from their own knowledge, and some of these scriptures for some reason contradict themselves.

Agreed. I am not saying about everything but you know like some ppl do that. Like humare aaj kal ke ppl who all come on Sanskar and all 😆 You know my gurujis says this one line:--

A lil knowledge is a dangerous knowledge 😆

For example, there are scriptures that say Lord Shiva is the ultimate supreme lord of the universe, and there are others that say Lord Vishnu is. And there are even others that say Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu are not different but the same only. It all has to do with what scriptures you believe I think. After all, we cannot believe all the scriptures because some contradict others.

Same with the issue of Radha being Lakshmi or Radha being Radha herself. It all depends on what scripture you believe. It's pretty hard to figure out which scripture is the right by the end of our life. It takes ages and many lives to come to enlightenment about God and realize the truth about him.

In the Ramayan Forum, remember when you wrote that Vishnu is an incarnation of Krishna? Definitely that is written in some scriptures, but in others it says that Vishnu is the Supreme being and all other Gods are his amsas, Shiva and Brahma included. We can't say one scripture is right over the other because we really don't know. Instead, we follow the scripture we have complete belief in until we reach enlightenment about God.

But I have read in another scripture that Goddess Lakshmi, Goddess Parvathi, and Goddess Saraswathi are all parts of the ultimate source of this entire universe - Goddess Jagadamba, the mother of the universe. Every Goddess in our religion, no matter if she is an avatar of Lakshmi, Parvathi, or Saraswathi, she is ultimately a part of Goddess Jagadamba as well. Even Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are said to be parts of the Supreme Goddess. So whether Radha is Lakshmi's incarnation or Radharani herself, or whoever else, ultimately they are all the same. Radha, Sita Mata, Vedavati, Rukmini, Padmavathi etc, are all said to be avatars of Lakshmiji or someone else, but when we think "beyond", all of them are one only. They are just many parts of the same Goddess Jagadamba, all incarnating themselves on Earth for a divine purpose.

I agree. Actually this is all Kalp-bhed. Kalpantra basically. I am actually in a hurry right now. Will tell more about it later wen I come back. About why our scriptures contradict each other but still why its all true. 😳

By the way, I would like to apologize to you for being rude in the Ramayan Forum in that thread you created.☺️

Awwww....noo pls really its okk!! And even I am really very sorry. I guess bcoz of that crap word of mine all of it started. But a bigg hearted sorry from me to uu. And I am really glad we hve everything sorted out 😳 Misunderstandings and all that. lol!! But its very sweettt of uu...thank uu tons!!! *hugs* 🤗🤗

You were posting really valuable info and I should have given you the respect you deserved for it.

No problemm at all. Thank youu!! 🤗

So if you would like to forget what happened there, I would like to start fresh again and look forward to discussing Radhaji and anything else with you. 😊

Ofcuzz!! It was just misunderstanding and all that. I guess it all happened in a friction of a second kinds. And really I hve no hard feelings now. Thanks for this all. I feel much better coming on IF now. Thank uu!! 🤗🤗 And honestly like Sita di and Raj said, your a verryy sweet and a gem of a person. Thank u again 😳

Originally posted by: set_raj

Sita, yesterday's episode you saw, how Shri Krishna broke the ahankaar of Akroor and what he said to him?...even during Maharaas on sharad poornima..gopis also had ahankaar tht they are the best and pretty, thts y Krishna loves them..as soon as they had those thoughts Krishna immeidately vanished from there and all gopis were shocked.😊

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

Thanks Raj for the wonderful info 😊

This is in Mahabharat puran as well as Garg Samhita:--

The story about Hot Milk was actually that wen a "grehan" had taken place in Kurukshetra, Lord Krishna along with all the Yaduvanshis had gone there to do "havan", "dan", "punaya" etc. as its considered auspicious to do all this during the grehan period. When the "Brij" vasis got to know about this that Lord Krishna is coming to Kuruksehra, then they all along with family went to Kurukshetra for Thakur jis darshan. And thats wen Radharani also reached and Thakur ji introduced all his ranis to Radharani. So, Satyabhama, one of the patranis of Thakur ji got jealous bcoz of Radharanis rup-saundaraya i.e. her beauty and her "divya bhav" for Thakur ji. And bcoz of that jealousy Satyabhama during the night went to Radharanis "kaksh" and gave her burning hot milk. Now, its DURING that time, Radharani was thinking better in hindi, doing "dhyan" of Thakur ji. And in that dhyan she drank that hot milk.

Elsewhere, Satyabhama after giving that hot milk to Radharani she came to Thakur ji and saw that Thakur ji is in lots of pain. When she looked at his feet and she found uclers on Thakur jis feet. So she asked how this happened? She said that you always keep your feet on lotus flowers and other flowers then how this happened to your feet. And thats when Thakur ji said that "Satyabhama ye sab tumhare karan hi hua hai." She said how? And Thakur ji told her, "Satyabhama, tum jo abhi abhi Radharani ko garam garam dudh pilakar aayi ho, ye sab uske karan hua hai. Jis samaye tum radharani ko garam garma dudh pila rahi thi toh us samaye vo mera dhyan mein magan thi. Atah un ke upar aane vale kasht ko maine apne upar le liya. Isi karan mere pairon mein ye chale pade hain."

Thats when Satyabhama ran towards Radharanis kaksh and asked her for fogiveness.

She has been mentioned 18 times in a hidden way. But like Rajnish feels that lol bcoz of that a fight took place for a year and he isnt writting so I wont either. But yes she has been mentioned 18 times. 😊

In Brahma-Vaivart Puran, Skand Puran and in even Garg Samhita, its written near Vrindavan, there is a place called BhandirVan where below a big "burgad" tree, Brahmaji Maharaj got Thakur ji and Radha Rani married. But Rajnish I have never read about this shadow and all story. Can u explain that? I always get confused as to where its written and all.

But ya, I know about that which I told to Sita di also about Radharanis marriage to Abhimanyu who was actually Lord Krishna only. 😳

True. Radharanis radharani herself. Not avtaar. Its proven during MahaRaas that Laxmi ji is her own and Radharani is her own and not an avtaar. This is proven through Garg Samhita:--

When Maharaas had taken place in Vrindavan, at that time Laxmi ji also wanted to join the Maharaas but she didnt get "pravesh" i.e. entry in the Maharaas. So, near Vrindavan there is a smal forest, its name is, "Bel van", Laxmi ji went and sat in that van and from there from a distance she has seen Maharaas. And even today, there is a temple of Laxmi ji where her puja takes place and her "murti"/idol is still there and its showing her seeing Maharaas from far a distance. So here we see Radharani in the Maharaas and Laxmi ji sitting and watching it from far away both different persons. 😊

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I believe all this gets mixed bcoz nowadays ppl hear more and read less. And the hearing is not always correct. So many stories have come up and thus real is different and what we know is different. Like when we talk about devtas, we say Varun devta, Agni devta, Suraya devata so we also say INDRA DEVTA. But Indra is not the name of the devata, its the POST. Like, Raj is the name and his post on IF is of a cool viewbie, so similarly INDRA is the POST. Not the name. But we say Indra devta. So same ways I am saying, everything has just gotten mixed up since we are hearing things passed down from generation to generation. But some may not view the same point as I have written about Radharani and Laxmi ji though its in the scripture itself, so I ll just say what Rajnish said, "jiski jaisi bhavana"!! 😳

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Heres one Legend from my side 😊

Radhrani used to go in a Van called Satyavan to meet Thakur ji secretly 😳 Some ppl saw her going there and so they complained to Vrishbhanu ji that Radha goes to meet someone in Satyavan secretly. So Vrishbahnu ji said, "Radha tum kisse milne jati ho?". Radharani said, "Vahan main ek devi ki puja karne jati hoon". Vrishbhanu ji said even I would like to see her.

Now, Radharani came again to meet Thakur ji in that Van chupke chupke. lol! 😳 And she told him all that happened. So Shri Krishna said, "Radhe, tum chinta mat karo." 😳 And asked her to get Vrishbhanu ji here the next day. Next day Radharani and Vrishbhanu ji reached there and Thakur ji saw this from far away. And quickly he made a "roop" of a devi. Radharani made Vrishbhanu ji meet her and said her name is "Sancholi devi" and ahem shes a devi of "TRUTH". lol!! Vrishbhanu ji felt happy after meeting her.

And Even today Thakur jis puja is done there in that Satyavan in the form of "Sancholi devi" 😳😊

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

Yes, Radha and Rukmini were none other but the sameavatars of Lakshmiji.Because Radha could not marry Shri Krishna (due to the promise he made to Abhimanyu), Lakshmiji incarnated herself again as Rukmini so that she could be his wife even in Dwapar Yuga. If Radha had married Krishnaji, there would be no reason for Lakshmiji to incarnate herself as Rukmini, would there?

Sri Krishna Tulabharam is a famous tale told to symbolize the devotion Rukmini had for Krishna, and the patience and grace in which she treated her co-wives. She was more of a mother-like figure to them than a co-wife. In character, she was no less than Sitaji.😊

Here is the story of Shri Krishna Tulabhaaram from wikipedia...

<H2>[<FONT color=#0066cc size=5>edit</FONT>] Tulabharam (weighing by scale)</H2>

The <FONT color=#0066cc>Tulabharam</FONT> is an incident in the life of Rukmini, that reveals the extent to which humble devotion is worth more than material wealth.

<FONT color=#0066cc>Satyabhama</FONT>, another queen of Krishna, prides herself about the love Krishna has for her and her grasp over his heart. Rukmini, on the other hand is a devoted wife, humble in her service of her Lord. Her devotion is her real inner beauty. On one contrived occasion, the sage <FONT color=#0066cc>Narada</FONT> arrived in Dwaraka and in the course of conversation hinted to <FONT color=#0066cc>Satyabhama</FONT> that the love that Krishna exhibits towards her is not all that real and in fact it is Rukmini who has real control over his heart. Unable to bear this, Satyabhama challenges Narada to prove it. Narada, with his way with words, tricked her into accepting a <FONT color=#0066cc>Vrata</FONT> (ritual) where she has to give Krishna away in charity to Narada and reclaim him by giving the weight of Krishna in wealth. Narada lures her into accepting this vrata by telling her that Krishna's love to her will increase many folds if she succeeds in performing this Tulabharam. He also instigates her ego by hinting that her wealth may not be sufficient to equal the weight of Krishna. With Satyabhama's ego duly raised, she tells Narada that she can mobilize so much wealth that it is a child's play for her to outweigh Krishna. Narada warns her that if she is not able to do this, Krishna will become his slave to be done with as he pleases.

The scene is soon set for the vrata. Satyabhama gives Krishna away in charity in spite of the other wives' pleadings. Krishna, always the mischievous cowherd, meekly submits to this drama. After donating Krishna to Narada, Satyabhama arranges for a big scale to be put up and sends with all assurance for her huge treasure of gold and jewellery. All that she has is soon put on the scale, but it doesn't budge. Narada starts taunting her and threatening her that if she can't put enough gold or diamonds, he will be forced to auction Krishna as a slave to someone else. Satyabhama, in frantic panic, swallows her pride and begs all the other wives to give their jewels. They agree out of love for Krishna but alas, it is of no use.

Krishna remains a mute witness to all this drama and rubs salt into the open wounds of Satyabhama's ego that he has now to become a slave to some cowherd and will have to suffer the separation from his dear wife. Narada suggests to Satyabhama that Rukmini may be able to get her out of the predicament. She finally swallows her pride and appeals to the devoted first wife of Krishna. Rukmini comes and with a prayer to her husband puts a single leaf of the sacred <FONT color=#0066cc>Tulasi</FONT> on the scale (tula). The scales then become all at once so heavy that even after removing all the jewels, the scales are weighed down on the side of the Tulasi leaf.

While there are different versions in different texts as to why the weighing was arranged, the story of the <FONT color=#0066cc>Tulsi</FONT> leaf placed by Rukmini being worth more in weight than that of Satyabhama's wealth is a common ending. This story is often repeated to enunciate the significance of Tulsi and how a humble offering to God is greater than any material wealth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rukmini