21 May : AARAV gone for 2 years = good riddance - Page 24

Originally posted by: sun29

as i said before aarav needs to be taken into counselling with both his parents...they as a family are totally responsible for this mess..we all are already done with who is right or wrong but one thing we do agre ethat this is one dysfunctional family and the divorce has a major impact on aarav and ranbir...ranbir again goes scot free and next time he may do some thing even worst although death of shilpa is the worst...and untill aarav is given emotional support by his parents the guy will be confused and suicidal and may try to kill himself again given shilpa told him w will meet in next birth ..

forget ragini..if neil walks away from aarav right now..he may take that blame on himself as a failure to his father as well..

besides his life is already spoiled with a criminal record...the family needs to come together to make him look at life and start afresh from scratch...ragini how much ever she screams is not equipped to deal with aarav..she never could...even before neil arrived it was a screaming match between then and a frustrated aarav...even now i do not think she is going to understand him at all..it wil lbe another screaming match to do this or that...she is too bitter and lacks empathy right now...that 15 years seperation has killed her and her children pay the price...the same for neil...his children are all over the place but he is too involved in his own misery to even see...and he cannot see beyond ragini...he needs to take charge of the situation now...they both need to save aarav or they will lose him as well ..

although i really have no hopes from NB to focus on such finer emotions...she just fails to show them as parents at all...

Originally posted by: xyze

I agree with your point about Ragini...that is probably her only and the biggest drawback. She fails to express her emotions in the correct manner.

She shows her care and concern for kids through words that show her as a controlling, strict and insensitive mother.

All her goodness and love is unseen because she uses anger to show it.

Unfortunately, only few people manage to look through it- Neil, agham, suhani, ashaben and sunnytai.

And among them, its only Neil who can handle her. Reminds me of what dimpy told Pam once. " him sab Ragini ko sirf jaante hain, Neil use samajhta hai".

And another misfortune is that Neil's patience is much less than what is required to break the wall around her.( and I don't blame him for this, the wall has become very old and strong in the last fifteen years, it isn't an easy task to break it.)

This is what happened yesterday. Neil knows that she loves him. Her anger is her sadness regarding aarav. He knows she is broken. He tried to handle her, but her despair was too much for her to see sense at that point of time. She kept on blabbering in anger and Neil lost his patience and gave up.

The irony is that Neil has calmness to handle kids in a correct manner which Ragini lacks and Ragini keeps tabs on her children to see if they don't loose their way which Neil fails to do. Each has got the quality which the other lacks and they can do wonderful parenting as a unit.

Its their separation that spoils everything, for them as well as the kids.

Originally posted by: *Dev.*

You do make sense! I agree with you!

The fault is from both side, both Ragini and Nachiket are responsible for Aarav's condition. Ranbir is of no use, he provoked Aarav and still like a spineless person kept quiet.

If they unite and discuss things, they can become good parents.

Originally posted by: xyze

The way Neil handled ranbir was my biggest disappointment.

I don't blame him this much about aarav and Ragini, but the way he handled ranbir was beyond me.

He gets to know ranbir brought the gun, he knows there were differences between aarav and ranbir, he came to know about aarav- shilpa- ranbir mess at the station, Ragini had already informed him that ranbir is going the wrong way with shilpa ...AND HE STILL SAYS "RANBIR KI KYA GALTI". And when Ragini tries to make their son realise what mess he has created, Neil is the first one to ask her to stop.

At least ragini accepts aarav was at fault and he deserved the punishment legally. But Neil, neither does he let ranbir face legal consequences of his actions (carrying a gun at a station and the hit and run fiasco)nor does he scold him enough for the acts. And above all he has the audacity to defend his son when ragini tries to make him see his fault when their one son has just gone to jail for similar stupidities.

Originally posted by: *Dev.*

Nachiket was never that responsible as a father. It was pam who raised his kids. Its not about blaming him or ragini, its about irresponsibility and light behavior.

The gun became the cause of all the problems and hence ranbir is also responsible for the mess. Yup, I agree with you regarding this.

Moreover, he did not informed ragini about aarav's problem.

Yup, at least Ragini accepts the faults but he just don't.

Nachiket's character is not understandable as the term of father.😕

Originally posted by: xyze

Nachiket just paid a huge price of being an irresponsible father minutes back when aarav was sentenced to jail and he had the guts to repeat the same with his another child. Surprising!

I am sure Pam won't scold ranbir..rather she will use the words Ragini said without thinking "ranbir is not my son. Send him to jail" to misguide him further. The idiot would ultimately forget all the mistakes he committed, would blame Ragini for everything and vow to take another revenge from her.

BTW what were agham and suhani doing at the court. Is it a place to take your 16-17 year olds?? And why was nishi missing...her being there was important for Ragini.

Originally posted by: xyze

I agree with your point about Ragini...that is probably her only and the biggest drawback. She fails to express her emotions in the correct manner.

She shows her care and concern for kids through words that make her come across as a controlling, strict and insensitive mother.

All her goodness and love is unseen by the kids because she uses anger to show it.

Unfortunately, only few people manage to look through it- Neil, agham, suhani, ashaben and sunnytai.

And among them, its only Neil who can handle her. Reminds me of what dimpy told Pam once. " hum sab Ragini ko sirf jaante hain, Neil use samajhta hai".

And another misfortune is that Neil's patience is much less than what is required to break the wall around her.( and I don't blame him for this, the wall has become very old and strong in the last fifteen years, it isn't an easy task to break it.)

This is what happened yesterday. Neil knows that she loves him. Her anger is her sadness regarding aarav. He knows she is broken. He tried to handle her, but her despair was too much for her to see sense at that point of time. She kept on blabbering in anger and Neil lost his patience and gave up.

The irony is that Neil has calmness to handle kids in a correct manner which Ragini lacks and Ragini keeps tabs on her children to see if they don't loose their way which Neil fails to do. Each has got the quality which the other lacks and they can do wonderful parenting as a unit.

Its their separation that spoils everything, for them as well as the kids.

Originally posted by: RonitPallaviNR

I support Ragini completely this time. Nachiket did take Aaravs situation lightly.