Blast from the Past Thread #16, pg 128, epi 180 - Page 89

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: hd75


Some very interesting discussions going on here.

Never thought ASR manhandled Khushi, I always felt it was his way of showing his intense love and pain, there was something pure in it, of course Barun made it just perfect.

I remember people were disappointed there was no redemption, redemption for what? As ASR himself said "iss pyaar mein sahi, galat nahi hota"...it is just love, being nasty, hurting the one you love - all part and parcel of those crazy feelings ! As you so rightly say, what matters is that the love, respect and trust remains intact.

Barun always maintained he could play ASR so well only because of the writing, well, if you want to know how ASR would have been if Barun was not playing him, watch the other shows which also have such angry young men and see the difference. ASR may be been brilliantly written but if it wasn't for Barun, I don't think people would have felt so much for the character. I mean who else can say "shaat up" or "oh really" like that?

Was just thinking about Khushi, what an endearing character ! Even today, I simply adore her and I also know what you mean when you say you have no idea what they did to that character. Sad because Khushi was so different from the usual soap heroines, she had her values, alright but she also came with her own flaws, in many ways she was like ASR.

Towards the end and even after the fiasco, I think it was Sanaya who made Khushi likeable. If I could forgive that suicide attempt and peon disguise and still love Khushi, a lot of it is because of the actress ! Wish they had made her as real as ASR, she was real for a long time until something went wrong everywhere in IPK. ASR alone survived, even at the peak of the mess, this character alone remained untouched, minus the gussa though. Guess the writers too were in love with ASR !

By the time it came to Mrs.India, I knew it was all over and was waiting for the show to end rather than watching it go down day by day. I was seriously hoping they would let her get back to the dabba service but no, she had to be Mrs.India ! But, try as they might, they can never erase the memory of Khushi Kumar Gupta in those gaudy coloured salwar-kameez complete with pompoms, side plait and a funny looking bag !

Can't believe I am up at 1 AM and writing this, got a long day ahead tomorrow...will I ever get over discussing IPK?



hi harichandana,

i was up till 3 am last night doing what i can't fathom. welcome to the cusckoo club.

thanks for lovely post.

in pink. barun as asr. who else could shaat up, oh really, get out and tum theek ho quite like that? i often wonder what would happen to asr with any other actor. all i can muster up is a faint shudder. no one at home or here will believe that it was barun's acting that finally stayed on in me... immense potential... i have rarely seen this level of interpretation. there are great actors... but to do 398 episodes back to back and that too without too many words most times, or repeating similar things again and again, and create a difficult character while conveying every nuance and feeling of it... i wonder who else could have done it.

oh i know what you mean about other shows and angry young men... no subtlety, no calibration, no idea what's in the heart and sinew of character.

my niece and i also argued and raved about certain things which we felt were not asr. funny how, the personality has become so real we can actually say what is and isn't asr.

from the very first moment that he took off his shades and looked with inert yet searing gaze at sheesh mahal, you could feel the complexity and the possibility of the man. which other actor? so yeah, nice that people tell themselves character is king, the actor is not indispensable, etc... but i am sorry, no can do. maybe after years will come an actor who can do asr, as with mr bond, but really as things stand?...

about sanaya and khushi. again it was the actress who made her. would any other actress look as weird and cool as she did with her khushi clothes? and do we have any other actress with that sense for comedy? again, a fine interpretation. i must say i also feel she was a casting coup. the lissome, fair, tall, city bred metro girl from an upper middle class back ground added a twist to the small town girl which a more predictable choice might never have... a bit like the ultra sophisticated, completely palace worthy audrey hepburn doing eliza... that contrast and that intelligence did something to the whole thing. for me at least. we have more "small town" "middle class" looking actresses, who might do the affronted righteous young woman thing with a certain flair. but who could do the cookiness of khushi, the intensity, the passion. you are right, if we can still talk of her with affection despite peon and suicide... it's only because of sanaya.

we got so lucky. hmmm.



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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Gasping for breath. Where is MY oxygen???? ...gone with the wind... but here is Indi bringing them back with all the vigor of her words...👏👏
This exchange (of what?? may be all) between them in that room is more intense and passionate than any love making scene. Mirrors used to such a brillaint effect here.. it is instances like these the execution of this love story alienated itself from any ordinary.. made a place for itself among the elite!
Oh she most certainly forgot all about the bet... may be all about herself too.. until he called her "Khushi" that silken way...and he is so much of a man of less words.. and more of action... let his passion talk on that stage.. and that soft smile in that room... Neruda certainly wrote those lines just for these two.. thanks much for sharing them here with all the references and subtext...
great pics and that special edit.. 👏reflecting a man in complete awe with his lady..
When a man comes and does such intimate gesture.. opens your cascades as it is only HIS right and pleasure.. NO need to fill up any farq padtha hai kyon ki...
Thanks for the intoxication. My most favs in that Raizada color!



okay, i want to count those emoticons teehee. thanks so much, horizon, for liking and what you say.

yes, she likely forgot herself too...

no need whatsoever to complete the uttered word... faraq padta hai, etc.,... when the spirit has spoken and the flesh sings. such a relief they never wrote, faraq padta hai kyunki main tum se... tum se... mohabbat karta hoon.

horizon, as i wrote this i remembered the many scenes where the feelings come through, the tenderness, passion, desperation, one after another through my mind. this is torture... i miss these people. you can, i bet, cut their scenes to practically every known great love poem in the universe...

thanks so much.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Interesting discussion. .. days of buniyaad and humlog... couldn't really understand them that time esp the first one...recall watching "Kacchi Dhoop", 3 young girls and their mom.. Bhagya Shree's first and Ashutosh Gawarikar as the lead...nukkad and ofcourse Mr SRK's shows ... many more interesting ones over the weekend.. Indi is right . Doordarshan was much more better before the invasion of Indian TV by Saas- Bahu under the pretext of "Nayi Soch".
But ofcourse, IPK is the the only one that I would be addicted to... the magic potion..Infact I heard IPK copied a lot of scenes, ideas from other shows earlier on.. including the pool side kiss...doesn't bother me a bit... as a love story is about conveying emotions, it is upto the characters/ actors who does that convincingly.. ASR and Khushi were etched with precision...and Barun and Sanaya brought such heart tugging tenderness and believability that one just can't help but fall in love.. and perhaps won't deny their extra good looks had a thing ot two to do with it too.. becos its very rare that both the male and female leads looking gorgeous and who can act a bit at that!!



🤣, well said... act juuust a bit. hyuk. they were lookers both, are... i should say. and that thing between them... woh, as khushi asked asr after diwali, woh sab kya tha. 😆

yeah scenes from many shows, i remember later seeing bits of baat again and finding the same scenes, situations... geet fans always said a lot was identical... happens in the creative world all the time... situations are repeated, not all writers are original all the time... some things feel like stock material... but these two made everything feel fresh new never before...sift enough and we may even find "faraq nahin padta" dramas, but it was never about the words and scenarios, always about who and how.

i am missing them. ek baar phir.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

Indi
Did you see Tamas on the partuiion concept what a show it was and also Bharat ek khoj and Surbhi Am I right with the names Nukkad on the concept of street shows saw some episodes



govind nihalani's tamas... no i did not. i did see episodes of bharat ek khoj. i was never much into tv, would watch at times. humlog because it was the first maybe and the story of the three girls, each different used to talk to me... that whole ashok kumar gyan bit would have us in splits...

i used to love watching buniyad, something real about it... and the partition always interested me. lajo ji, anita kanwar was just too good... a bit different from the other jis, her husband loving her not the way the others loved their spouses... vague memories, all warm ones.

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Posted: 11 years ago
many shots of barun out on the forum... due to some extreme takniki kharabi of mine, all i could see was this,


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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Blasters...😊

My daily life is getting hectic especially new year just started...have ton of work to do...

REQUEST...as you know I can't have time to go through pages on daily basis so please...Whatever the important news ,updates, new epi analysis...or anything just drop me a PM...ONLY weekend will be able to make me go through...but as I left you at 103...its 10 pages everyday so 50 per week...
Arshi needs life till her kids are on their feet ...so have mercy...

Plz Preety Plz

Arshi❤️
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

many shots of barun out on the forum... due to some extreme takniki kharabi of mine, all i could see was this,



Hey Indi ,

Is it recent one...our boy is Looking good.😊...Thnx for sharing ...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

Omg just finished reading everyone's take on the sizzling hot Teri-Meri episode... What can I say just loved & enjoyed reading them thorougly... I will never be able to come out of Arshi magic... Anytime watching/reading abt Arshi makes me feel better & takes me to another world

It was a brilliantly choreographed song, with the steps matching the flashbacks like A twirls K during Dheela, A catches a fainting Khushi,... Barun doesn't seem to be a non-dancer here...

One by one my comments, as I am unable to quote -

@Anita: Ur teri meri spl cap killed me🤢 Amazing analysis👏👏👏 lol ur comment on Shyam's sorry career as a lawyer😆 ASR's suit blooper was obvious... But I don't think it was becoz Barun was convenient in it... It cld be something else😕 Arshi danced as if no one existed... Later Arnav said, 'Kayi baar mujhe lagtha hai ki, tum aur mere alava iss duniya mein koi nahin'... It was def an awe moment... Even I used to wonder where is Shashiji... Shyam's reaction is my fav... Mami-Mama nok-jokh😆 True only Shyam & Mami have brains among the Raizadas... And Payal's comment🤣 U described the cute thank u & welcome nicely👏 I had more dhak-dhaks than Khushi the first time I watched it... Loved reading ur hilarious comments in between😆

@Cynthia:
U brilliantly described the sensual dance with ur beautiful words👏👏👏 Arshi's love story is def a mushkil love story just like ours with IPK...

He lifts her in the air,

And she slowly glissades down his body.

Oh, the sensuousness of this dance

The heat that burns in their eyes


I am getting the vibes of it... Just wow... Yes it was the first step ASR took in love & slowly started to enjoy his feelings...

This Laad Govenor is a man she loves to hate but will she hate to love?

Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon?👏


Khushi's monologue, when Arnav was kidnapped, was a brilliant one... The name of the show itself has a beautiful & divine connection😭

@Indi: Di, I am at loss of words... Just amazing di...
Loved ur passionate take for such a passionate dance sequence👏👏👏

what if words were never needed... and wasn't it always a dance? - how true... Actually these two never needed words... They mostly showed their love only without words...



The edits are all fantastic... But this one uff🤢
I am unable to take my eyes off from ASR... U captured the scene so well...

@Sohara:
Plz update ur index dr... I will search too...

I have already read & enjoyed ArshiH's take & Durga's beautiful poem😊 I didn't see Samin's... And Ami I miss u...

@Supriya:
I always love ur collages... I crazily save every arshi picture & edit...

B4 IPK I don't like that song at all... It was my friend's ringtone too... I felt that Fateh was rather shouting than singing (at that time)... But now it is completely opposite... I actually love his voice in the song now😆 (Becoz onscreen it is Arnav, who is singing😉)... And I love Barun's lip sync to the song I daily hear the song once as it is in my IPK playlist...


Thanks for your sweet words AD
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758

Okay, don't scream or kill me but I watched it!
I bit the bullet and watched IPK2, not during its initial airing but I DVR'd it so it wouldn't get the ratings at 2am, and OMG,
what are they thinking?
It was awful.
They used the whole concept of the raging man (good looking, but not good) and the zany, sweet girl (who actually was not bad). They had him behaving and acting with ASR characteristics, ie. him pulling at her and making the fist and talking through gritted teeth and she as the tearful wee babe.
I couldn't finish it.
Good concept IPK, bad for remaking of season 2.
Did they not think we would compare it to season 1?
Star Plus what are you thinking?
There is only one IPK, Arnav and Kushi, everything else looks plain silly. Just my POV.
ps this is going against forum code we are not suppose to compare them.


I was shocked that you saw season 2...just kidding
But season two seemed like a bad idea
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Too much pressure in school. Right now I'm in the library.

The thread is going in a super fast pace. so much to read and lot to write. My PM inbox is bulging. Do't know when i'll be able to read.
Thank you for the breather.
As our AD has become too hectic, I guess a frequent breather is necessary. I want to read every one's thought and take and want to write my view on each episode as well. As we are reliving IPK, we shouldn't do it in haste?
what do you guys think?
found it in FB. loved the edit, thought to share it with you. I don't know from where they got this pic of Barun.


This was a good edit...love it
Thanks for sharing it sohara!!!!!

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