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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani


so far the best explanation i've heard that may justify some of her behavior, but i think the CV's might be a fault a bit and strictly IMO, maybe if Sana was a stronger actress, they would'be thrown more substance at her. they did a great job with her overall, i know we've discussed this but just can't help but feel insulted at the way they portrayed her at times. the bigger picture though i'm ok with, Absolutely agreed with the bold above. i know La was going to gift her apne style ka dress, would've been nice to see her help Khushi put it on and maybe a makeover for a day, leaving Arnav even more breathless????

You girls are discussing some interesting topic. I also think La was not after ASR's money. Cum on It was ASR, any girl would love to be his girl friend! I loved what barunDiwani said,her IQ level really dropped when she was in RM. She just became a nincompoop.Though I liked how she changed herself to a perfect nice bahu material, but she almost lost her identity.
I loved the bold red in Indie's.La loved ASR a lot. she even changed herself completely to get him. But Khushi already stole ASR's heart. So she had to let him go.
BarunDiwani, I agree with you. If Sana was a better actress, the CVs could experiment with her more.Sometimes she couldn't emote the right expression. But she did a good job over all.I loved your line in red bold. They gave khushi La type makeover at the end. How cum your forgot the blue gown what she wore in the Mrs, India pageant and left ASR mesmerized.

Edited by sohara - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani

so far the best explanation i've heard that may justify some of her behavior, but i think the CV's might be a fault a bit and strictly IMO, maybe if Sana was a stronger actress, they would'be thrown more substance at her. they did a great job with her overall, i know we've discussed this but just can't help but feel insulted at the way they portrayed her at times. the bigger picture though i'm ok with, Absolutely agreed with the bold above. i know La was going to gift her apne style ka dress, would've been nice to see her help Khushi put it on and maybe a makeover for a day, leaving Arnav even more breathless????



you are right, a stronger actor might have handled all the ridiculous touches better. khushi was given strange stuff to do, but wasn't sanaya just too good at getting it all done and owning it for khushi. right at the end of course, all went crazy. somehow, sana never managed to own la entirely, she was good, but pitted against actors like bs, si, daljeet, jayshree t, utkarsha naik, she looked kinda week.

insulted? oh i felt that many times. channel, ph, all men in the universe were happily yelled at each time. husband bore brunt.
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Posted: 12 years ago
^^^
supriya, thanks for that lovely comment on my take. me too love taht other badtameezi dialogue... the day she is in blue and lectures him on marriage, right? he twists her arm behind her back and pulls her close? that one?

tell me, did he say something about badtameezi the first time they met? she said i seem to recall, "aap yeh kya badtameezi kar ra rahe hain?" something to that effect.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Yes even in their 1st meeting it was there and after she says I think he broke her pearls that day and she opened her hair to hide her back which later he will do to cover her back from NK's gaze .
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

Indi

Great mahaepisode loved your take with great pictures awww indeed ankh micholi and handsome looking stunned relieved at his beauty who did not disappear hamesha to Lucknow taking away his sleep peace from him leaving him restless bring in this lines to my mind but now ahhh the peace 1st and then will come the anger why she made him go through all this but will he acknowledge it no never.Without doubt one of the best thought out and enacted scene of IPK both Barun and Sanaya were brilliant and so natural shows their talent just goes to all viewers hearts(used the song with some changed words Meet na mila re man ka from Abhimaan a movie I like much recommending Cynthia to see on the net)

Chein Nahin Bahaar Chein Nahin Ghar Mein
Mann Mera Dharti Par Aur Kabhi Ambar Mein (Watching the stars moon)
Usko Dhoondha Har Dagar Mein
Gali Gali Dekha Nayan Uthaaye
Meet Na mila re man ka ..

And then after touching her scolding her, anger at her ignoring him and her words ah the famous forget it but staring at the her payal forgetting his sophisticated LA who is hugging him

it's a good thing that she didn't open her eyes. if she had, the story would have ended right here, no question of not falling in love and crashing into his arms. but today a celestial game was at play, that was devised to keep the story interesting, dynamic, and without end.

as i watched, it was quite obvious that the whole 45 odd minutes were laid out around hide and seek. people missed each other, feelings stole into corners and never got caught, secrets were almost out, phew! but not quite. but why? why this devise suddenly? and that too right across an extended episode? perhaps it was just to raise the tension, keep us glued and use a familiar film technique. or it was ankh micholi, the game of krishna come to visit this drama that has references to him in so many ways right through.

"hai re nand kissore!" Kya baat hi loved to read this and the way you gave Krishna's reference everywhere.

Curtains and Payal and wind but he thinks

Aaj Main Apane Hi, Man Ko Samajhaun
Woh Nahin Aayegi, Man Nahin Paun

"mujhe galatiyan aur unhe karne wale pasand nahin," i don't like mistakes and those who make them, says the man in charge, arnav singh raizada

Well brings to my mind all the galtiyan he makes throughout the show where Khushi is concerned

Indi loved how you refered to Anjali as Gandhari forever blind and trusting not knowing the games her husband Shyam( who is not Dhritarastra but commits crimes when open eyes) is playing

and he goes for it.
"main tumse kuch pooch raha hoon..." so intimate the voice, like it's touching her... "tumne toh kaha tha ki lucknow chali jaogi... waopas laut kar nahin aogi," my heart shivers/leaps at his voice, that wapas nahin aaogi is killing him somewhere... "phir yahan kya kar rahi..." awww wow what a expression

majboori thi... tab bhi... aur ab bhi." had no choice, then too... now as well. khushi is no longer running, skipping, jumping, acting cute, nothing, some part of her that no one else touches but this man, is touched again. only for him her voice grows deep like this, mature, poised, a woman vis a vis a man.

"aap hamara haath chhodiye warna..."
leave my hand...

"warna?"
or else?

"warna kya kar logi tum?" what will you do?

"mera hi ghar hai." it is my home.

if i hadn't spent all the money, i'd have died before coming here to the home of people such as yourself. khushi returns to the seriousness of the moment.

"pehle bhi tum hum jaise logon ke yahan hi kam karti thi."
you used to work for people like us before. "aur waise bhi, tum jaise log toh paison ke liye..." and anyway, for money, people like you... he stops as she looks up.

Mera bhi man Khush ho gaya reading this Indi Wow wow wow

Did Khushi know/felt this will be his response as soul mates they understand each other (still they dont know/recognise this)so her refusal to come here but then Devi maiyya has other ideas they have to meet na

Loved all the quoted bits more more😃



meet na mila re manka...

mmm, amitabh bachchan, what was the movie... abhimaan. niiice. i like what you say about the nuance of that meeting in the closet. yeah a blinding relief and he'll never tell her about it, given the grief he's gone through.

thanks for liking, chalhov.

actually a lot of the inner cadence of their interaction was so lifelike.

about gandhari, in an earlier hangout of mine, the crooner, we used to talk about thsi aspect anjali, and shyam with streaks of duryodhan. in fact bits of many mythological characters all over. the great epics tend to show up in characterisation i guess.

yes cynthia would like abhimaan... another major jodi. i want her to see aradhana, amar prem... and sharmilee. also yaadon ki baraat... at this rate the poor girl will have to start taking hindi classes.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


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YOU HAVE SEEN MY HUMBLE SIDE. TRUST ME YOU WON'T LIKE THE OTHER...

EPISODE 58 & 59


Why so much lime in these two epis?On sweets, limy alcohol and lime color bottle,lime juice for La,hmm...interesting.Here are my findings.

Symbolism:

In India : Lime tree :future will please you,a sudden profit

and lemon is a symbol of purification and Love

In Euorope:Lime tree symbolizes romanticism ,secret lover ..In Italy -selflessness

LIME color new possibilities and opportunities

your posts are always very informative.Awesome symbolization.

Connection : Khushi will get sudden money from Arnav when he will bring her home by paying her after throwing out.She is going to get new opportunity.Lemon which Mamiji splashed on sweets will purify her in a long run by both sisters and she will develop love for them.Khushi is affected by these by still shows her selflessness and Shyam is a secret lover at this point.I must say at this point Romanticism is developing among these two too as well as Payesh. Amazing 👏

Our secret lover Shyam is ready to flee because as a secret admirer he can't be in front of Cake I mean Khushi .The moment Anjali who is a secret admirer of him asks him the reason of his perturbation ,his phone [biggest Villain of IPK]rings and he excuses himself from the crime scene.He calls her later and makes up a lie of "Delhi friend Alone in the hospital" just like my dog ate my homework story."Hum jante hain iss waqt aap ki ankhon mein aansoo hain{I know you are crying] Ufff he is crossing all the limits.Arggg😡😡😡

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Pause here :Arnav will always be besides her no matter what.Later he was holding her on her anniversary while revealing Shyam.

Anjali becomes despondent ,distressed and heartbroken but tries to keep her chin up .Arnav wants to end the party for her as he does not care about anyone but her.The way he gulps her pain and expresses his concerns ,there is no question Di is everything for him.Both brother and sister cut the cake along with the family[ DM's plan as Payal and Khushi are also part of this family already].Anjali becomes more bereaved as Mamiji and the guest inquirer the reason of Shyam's absence.Arnav dissoled the issue by telling everyone as for Jijia ji work is more important.I love how the whole family during the Cake ceremony pampered her.No offense but it was her day to celebrate but got ruined by rotten egg.😡

Anjali dejected herself when Khushi comes and cheers her up with her selflessness."Zaroor koi paka kam hoga " [must have an important work to go] YES Khushi your secret lover can't be seen with his wife to cut the cake.But what butterflies in her stomach "hanste huwe aap bilkul bhi LaadGovernor nahin lagteKhushi said it was so true in their own relationship later ,Real thing is the strength of this relationship[Strongest relationship ever even during hate period] in this relation eyes pour the love and concern not words[Khushi and Arnav always spoke with each other through their eyes and heart since day one]...bringing smile at each others face in the time of need and be there for each other [Arshi were always there for each other good or bad,from guest house till kidnapping] its in their smile...[Khushi's smile is the biggest treasure and strength for Arnav and seeing his one smile brings You just said it.Arnav and Khushi used to speak through their eyes. Remember the heer ranjha dialogue,"jisko jee jaan se chate he jaab usko nazro ko samne pate tab akhe bolte he jubaan nahi."

CONNECTION:Anjali was alone with the family in this wedding anniversary and will be alone later one too.Khushi is cheering her here and consoling later .Shyam saved by the bell this time but bells of toys will make him caught later.This one has guests without him but later he will be without guests.Makers did do a good job by keeping contrast in these two.Absolutely true.


Nani heard all of this and becomes so proud of her.Both Nani and Anjali admires her astuteness at this age.Arnav also gets stunned at her sagacity but does not forget to scare her with his glares but he was happy to see his Di smiling.😆

Nani applauds Khushi's ways to console Anjali.Anjali agrees with that.Arnav analogs each word of Nani about Khushi keenly with his side eyes.He is feeling eminent at her in his own style as ASR never says thnx or sorry but his expressions are mind blowing .Barun you rock.👏 Barun was superb.He is such a fine actor!

Nani outrages at La after the dance.She walks out by saying this song perfectly suits her .I disagree with Nani as this suits more to Shyam after all he is "Character dhilla" because in RM not everyone's character is perfect since PAST so Naniji don't say that.La walks off and gets drunk with limy alcohol to release her stress.She is not a bad gal its just she is alone and stressed out.




She comes back at the party and gets jealous after hearing Nani's remarks about Khushi.Ghabar Nani's glares were enough to make La mutton as she crossed all the limits today.



Arnav who was feeling valiant for elucidation of Khushi from Nani and now discomfited for La.What a comparison.👏 He respects Nani's opinion way too much.😳But does not show it. That's why he never crossed his limits. Though he showed he was obdurate, but never disappointed them.

Arnav treats La with the lime juice as a guest and brings her senses back by making her realize how did she ruin her sister's anniversary party.La asks for forgiveness and walah he asks her to seek forgiveness from the whole family.Khushi's first success though unintentionally but Arnav starting believing in seeking forgiveness.He is going to imply that later Mr Akhroo Romanticoo Khan.Looks Yummilicious in limy green clothes.😳 i was drooling like a shameless creature.he was looking irresistible!

Mamiji and her cringing games are fantabulous.Her slanting ways of squeezing lime juice over sweets and misguiding the manager in such a way that he declines to pay Gupta sisters were too stooped .She blames them that they did it deliberately .Khushi gets disconcerted and buckles her up for the war of Jalaibis.Payal tries to make her calm down but Sanka Devi is disquieted as her DM is not fair with her.Poor soul has no idea a bigger opportunities are ahead of her as she entered her home with sweet thals with the twinkling sound of her payal and she meant to be a joy and happiness for this family.Brilliant. 👏Mami couldn't harm her much except the money loss.If mami wouldn't do the sham, how Khushi would show her capability that how to handle the situation in the right time.

She makes mountains of Jalaibis(my friend Cynthia's title) to bring the real joy of the party.Her selflessness has no boundaries ,she can't ruin Anjali's party and that's how she is going to save it .At this point I felt money issue is at one side her reputation and self respect is on the other as Mamiji called her dissimulator .At the top Manager told her he will talk to the BOSS "Arnav" who just challenged her by telling her "Keh tum jessi larkiyan tou paison keh liye..."{ gold digger] She wants to prove him "Har chees paison sai nahin kharidi ja sakti"[Not everything you can buy from money] meaning you can't buy me with your money and that's my challenge to you!👏👏👏 and he is going to say actually admit "har chees par tum..." Because from now on that's exactly the game is which they both will play acc to DM's wish.😳Arnav though said those words. But I think he never meant that. He knew very well how hard working and ethical she was.he used to say like that just becoz he wanted to deny his love for Khushi.

Nani and Anjali approbates her despite the expendable attitude of Mamiji.They love Khushi way too much already.Awww😊Everyone in the party applauds the fresh aroma and taste of jalaibis and Mamiji 's plan goes hello hi bye bye!! IDEA PHILAP!!God always helps the good people. It's true that they have to achieve after the hurdles.

Pause here:Mamiji Khushi is the one who will be protector of this home and Anjali whom you love so much but you are unaware of that. Absolutely happened in the show later.

Arnav is adamant to throw daggers of glaring shots at Khushi no matter what.He just can't let her out of his sight and she is fully aware of that which makes her more afflictive .😳He found his Khushi again.How cum he would get her out of his sight!

In GH.Buaji becomes astonished and baffled at the same time after hearing all the story of RM,"tum hi hamesha garbar kart ho" [ you always create problems]A middle class family struggling with their lives everyday basis as Khushi says to Arnav later"Hum issi mein jeena sekh laitain hain"[We learn to live like that.So true.Love Buaji and her dialogues,"Bananain chale thai Mithai ka Taj Mahal aur Ban Gya Kutub Minar" meaning we wanted to reduce our difficulties but in return our debt increased.Deep meaning we got more worries than happiness.Khushi's distress has no limit. Feeling terrible for them. Wanted to kill that relentless Manoroma!😡

Our secret lover Shyam comes back and brags about how he handled the situation very nicely in between La and Naniji.Secret admirer Anjali does not give any response but honey tangling shabby tongue of Shyam diverts her attention towards La and wins this round of deceitfulness .He gets upset hearing all praises about Khushi and dissuades the topic.Loved how you described Shyam.

Naniji 's acrimony and annoyance towards La has no limit today.She does not want to give Anjali any chance to speak in La's favor.Naniji is way too impressed by Khushi or should I say have a planwa in her mind by saying all of this...hmmm...Mamiji was way too hilarious."Woh Larki today ki hai aur najar tomorrow pe hai".hmmm...Nani compares Khushi with La to just put her name in Anjali's head.I agreed with Nani proper upbringing and mannemanners make a human a proper one and it takes time to become one.For Nani Khushi was the perfect bahu for Raizada.



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Loved your insightful synopsis of the episodes.
You are simply brilliant. Loved your symbolization and connection.
Loved the line in purple and bold purple is my answer.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

Indi, u brought back memories, when my favourite pass time was listening to the radio. Vividh Bharati, Radio Ceylon, Binaca (or later Cibaca) Geet Mala, I miss Ameen Sayani's voice on the radio. I still do listen to Vividh Bharati sometimes. Brings back memories of those fun filled childhood days.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

^^^
supriya, thanks for that lovely comment on my take. me too love taht other badtameezi dialogue... the day she is in blue and lectures him on marriage, right? he twists her arm behind her back and pulls her close? that one?

tell me, did he say something about badtameezi the first time they met? she said i seem to recall, "aap yeh kya badtameezi kar ra rahe hain?" something to that effect.



i don remember if she mentioned anythin the first epi...but i think she must hav...after her tore pearls...

nd m talkin abt the scene...wher she's wearin a green yellow salwar...here its this scene


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Posted: 12 years ago

@Arshi Hamesha

Pause here :Arnav will always be besides her no matter what.Later he was holding her on her anniversary while revealing Shyam

CONNECTION:Anjali was alone with the family in this wedding anniversary and will be alone later one too.Khushi is cheering her here and consoling later .Shyam saved by the bell this time but bells of toys will make him caught later.This one has guests without him but later he will be without guests.Makers did do a good job by keeping contrast in these two

I liked the comparisions u made between the two anniversaries. Let me add a few:

Weird one - 2011 Anniversary came before Raksha Bandhan, 2012 Anniversary came much much after Raksha Bandhan

2011 - ASR made most of the preparations, 2012 - Khushi made most of the preparations

Both the times - Shyam didn't have cake. Anjali and Shyam both came down together for the party, but Shyam left later (or rather kicked out on the second occasion)

@Cynthia

He turns to her looking at her finally and says, "What do you want me to say? You ruined my sister's anniversary party." (Not really, Shyam did, this was just the icing on the cake).

Wonderful analysis. Great title again, 'Are u okay?' In this epi, almost all have started from the station of 'Not ok' and are on their way to the station of 'ok'. Loved the above lines in bold.

@Indi

in playful vein, creatives bring in stairs from ar office to shantivan, to test us no doubt. was i wrong or was there a curved staircase just behind khushi which i've never seen here? spotting the rakshas, she hides in shyam anjali's room, he passes her and senses

Oh, those were the office stairs. I was wondering where did they come from. Thanks.

sanaya was simply brilliant as she ran around frantic looking for a space to hide, then jumped into the wardrobe. only khushi could have done that

Agreed. She did the same in the Mrs.India track after coming home, when Arnav finds out that she's participating in the event.

@Ami

Of course, there was Bhagam bhag too along with the luka chupi. Very correct. Your analysis of Arnav's feelings and thoughts has come out very well. Kudos. I liked it.

@Sohara

Liked the 'bhag dk bose' for Shyam in an earlier review.

@Anita

'khushi is serving her jalebis when arnav comes up infront of her'he kept doing that during the party like he wants to say something but cannot (maybe like thank you for cheering di up)

I too think he wanted to say 'thank you'. But, would he have, even if Khushi did not go away?

By the way, thanks for the Netflix advice. But, it doesn't seem to work here in India. Should be useful for Cynthia, though.

@Chalhov

Meet Na mila re manka - yes that's an apt song reference u gave in Indi's review analysis. Cynthia should definitely watch Abhimaan, great movie and great songs.

@All

Nani and Anjali did not know that payment was not made to the Gupta sisters? If they did, they would have made Arnav make the payment. Don't u think? But, I guess they were not supposed to know. Or else why would Khushi accept Anjali's offer, if she wasn't so desperate.
Edited by DurgaS - 12 years ago
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@Arshi

"lemon is a symbol of purification and Love

In Euorope:Lime tree symbolizes romanticism ,secret lover ..In Italy -selflessness" - Thanks for the info 😃

Loved your connection...its so true 👍🏼

"phone [biggest Villain of IPK] - 😆 good one

"The way he gulps her pain and expresses his concerns ,there is no question Di is everything for him.Both brother and sister cut the cake along with the family" - i love his soft spot...he nvr shows it...but it'll always be thr for the ones he loves ❤️

Love the edit 😊

Arnav nd Khushi -

-Strongest relationship ever even during hate period
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always spoke with each other through their eyes and heart since day one

-always there for each other good or bad,from guest house till kidnapping

-Khushi's smile is the biggest treasure and strength for Arnav❤️ and seeing his one smile brings butterflies in her stomach

Love these points👏...especially the last...her smile is truly his biggest treasure nd strength ❤️❤️


i really love your comparison's 👍🏼

".Arnav analogs each word of Nani about Khushi keenly with his side eyes.He is feeling eminent at her in his own style as ASR never says thnx or sorry but his expressions are mind blowing .Barun you rock.👏" - he truly rocks 👏

"Arnav who was feeling valiant for elucidation of Khushi from Nani and now discomfited for La.What a comparison.👏 He respects Nani's opinion way too much.😳But does not show it." - i havn watched 59th epi...but liked wat u wrote

"Khushi's first success though unintentionally but Arnav starting believing in seeking forgiveness.He is going to imply that later Mr Akhroo Romanticoo Khan.Looks Yummilicious in limy green clothes.😳" - very well said👍🏼...Khushi is definitely affectin him...she'd infectious

"Her selflessness has no boundaries ,she can't ruin Anjali's party and that's how she is going to save it .At this point I felt money issue is at one side her reputation and self respect is on the other" - i knw right...she still wants spread sweetness to every1 around..even though she's really upset with the way things went...she's really strong

" meaning you can't buy me with your money and that's my challenge to you!👏👏👏 and he is going to say actually admit "har chees par tum..." Because from now on that's exactly the game is which they both will play acc to DM's wish.😳" - Perfectly said 👏 No money can buy her

"They love Khushi way too much already.Awww😊Everyone in the party applauds the fresh aroma and taste of jalaibis" - i swear...Nani nd Anjali r such Kind hearted people 🤗

"Arnav is adamant to throw daggers of glaring shots at Khushi no matter what.He just can't let her out of his sight and she is fully aware of that which makes her more afflictive .😳

Love the Rabba ve👍🏼

"Naniji is way too impressed by Khushi - who wouldn be 😊

.Nani compares Khushi with La to just put her name in Anjali's head.I agreed with Nani proper upbringing and mannemanners make a human a proper one and it takes time to become one.

I really liked the pic u gave me...It was Thank you...in different languages right? i saved it...thanks 🤗


agn beautiful review...especially the Arnav Khushi parts...which r highligted 👏
Edited by supriya.arshi - 12 years ago

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