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Posted: 12 years ago
#81
ok I'm late for the party as I didnt come to know about the thread until now...

I was distracted trying to perfect the Alu-pakode recipe😉😆...pyaar se


great to have you post again Priya.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Priya 🤗 missing you 😭 . I liked the episode today many dialogues to decode was hoping you could penn down few lines.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: indi52

good morning, priya.


how goes travel and internet?

after watching more than several times. i am still wanting some more of a man in a blue tunic and his woman in red. and cooking lessons too while we're at it.

but a funny sense of foreboding. asr's conversation with anjali about everyone having a zindagi... kitna jeena hai, kab marna hai, yeh vrat rakhke change thodi kar sakte hain. then later by the pool, khushi wanting to extend hamesha; happy she is doing her first vrat for his sukh, samriddhi, lambi umr and his reply: khushi, ek vrat se itna kuch ho sakta hai kya, her "humara toh yeh vishwaas hai, all these words seem to point toward the future in some way.

also, ab na jaa. i was taken aback by that sudden explosion into dance. why, i wondered. is there a message in it. looked at ab na jaa by dr palash sen and band, was struck by the words.

ankhen
band kar loon jo main
dekhoon bas tumhe
khwabo mein hi keh sakta hoon
apna tumhe
rehne de
mera yeh vaham pe hi yakeen
na jaa abhi

pyaar ki yeh raat hai
ab naa jaaa.
chhoti si ek baat hai
ab naa jaa

pal do pal ka saath hai
ab naa jaa
jaadu si yeh raat hai
ab naa jaaa
ab naa jaaa

khwab, vaham, pal do pal at a time when someone is praying for hamesha and two people are married in every possible way. a rabba vey after such a long break, filled with references to tender moments and rabba veys gone by (kitchen also had shades of that jalebi and khushi imagining asr's response to her in yellow/green saree), finally, the precap.

i have a sense of unease. something big and very challenging on its way i get the feeling. if the story is well told i'll revel in it. forced marriage and all it's pain, kidnap and its longing, khushi leaving and the desperate love, they all worked for me.

what do you think?




so well put -- I resonate with all your points. the words struck me too. Though I tried to focus on the first three lines -- aanken baand kar loon jo main dekhoon bas tumhein -- as an ode to how for arnav there is only Khushi and no one but Khushi -- she is the soul of his heart forever and always...

but the other dialogues do deepen the darkness that seems to be around the corner for them...separation I am ok with, till it becomes clear that aarav is not arnav's son...but the gifting of the business today...and his talk of her being independent..uff so much love, but also forboding as you say.

Yes, the direct thought this scene connects to is that heer ranjha sentence where he says kahin to duniya hogi jahan we will be together always.

and then the chess game...over there arnav chekmated and defeated adn here khushi checkmated and seemingly defeated.

today's episode was brilliant actually -- so well done -- full of substance and a million nuances for the upcomign track (I guess --- am not good at decoding. Wish Priya was around).

But today saw -- more than saw, felt shades of that deep underlying angst of their amazing sublime almost other-worldly love that we saw on the day of their remarriage...their star-crossed love.

I am glad khushi was serious today -- like during the kidnapping track...her more mature self, but her heartbroken self as well. what a day for her - it traced an arc from the most pristine experience of love from her prince to utter heartbreak all in the span of hours.

Looking forward to seeing how the cvs take this searing yet fascinating knife-edge moment forward. I am keeping the faith that they will not disappoint
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Posted: 12 years ago
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good morning, dazee, gandhari, anyone else there?

it was a beautiful and tightly structured episode, wasn't it?

if i can get rid of the ab na ja strains running in my head constantly, i might be able to write a thing or two. mahaepisode and yesterday, both deep and dense with meaning, looks like we are seriously into the next phase of mohabbat, and the challenges are getting even more complex. the shadow of the past loomed large till remarriage, now there's a bid to sabotage the future.

mini-me aarav asr's son? really?

when asr gave her her company with all that talk of being independent and the slap worthy "if something should happen to me" practicality, i wanted to hug the man and plaster his mouth at the same time. i don't know if all this ominous talk of vaham, can vrat impact life span, asr not being there someday, is indeed leading to some terrible thing happening to him or his kkgsr.

what i do know is that the character of asr got another reason for me to respect him and be smitten by the man he reveals himself to be every single day. indian, only son, from wealthy background, self made billionaire, belongs to family steeped in hindu theistic tradition with pujas and havans at drop of topi: loves a girl for who she is, doesn't attempt to change her in any way, is non-ritualistic and agnostic/atheistic himself but doesn't expect wife to believe like him, never asks her to dress according to her new "status" (many in this forum have expected khushi to), gives her not 15 carat solitaires but a company as a karwa chauth gift so that she can be financially independent, not have to ask others for money.

now that's a real man. a dream man really.

i couldn't bear it if anything happened to either him or his pakoda maker. sheetal shoo.

when priya comes back it will be such fun to dissect, decode, dhak dhak through this phase.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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spamming.

just watched the "tumhe kissi pe paiso ke liye dependent nahin rahene ki zaroorat hai" segment with sorry, thappad ("practical baat kar raha hoon, isme thappad maarne ki kya hai," oh that delivery, what could be more natural, more loving yet perplexed, more asr in love, he just so needs to protect those he loves, and to him talking of death is not a no no, since he is not superstitious about such things, he prefers to face reality), tumhara bhi registry karwa loon, bakwaas and intense man and woman in love many many times. mesmerised and worried. this is acting at a different level. still don't know what awards who got, but even without a single award, these two fill me with their work every day. i don't need anything else to feel my heart and thoughts expand, possibly the essential function of all entertainment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: indi52

good morning, dazee, gandhari, anyone else there?


it was a beautiful and tightly structured episode, wasn't it?

if i can get rid of the ab na ja strains running in my head constantly, i might be able to write a thing or two. mahaepisode and yesterday, both deep and dense with meaning, looks like we are seriously into the next phase of mohabbat, and the challenges are getting even more complex. the shadow of the past loomed large till remarriage, now there's a bid to sabotage the future.

mini-me aarav asr's son? really?

when asr gave her her company with all that talk of being independent and the slap worthy "if something should happen to me" practicality, i wanted to hug the man and plaster his mouth at the same time. i don't know if all this ominous talk of vaham, can vrat impact life span, asr not being there someday, is indeed leading to some terrible thing happening to him or his kkgsr.

what i do know is that the character of asr got another reason for me to respect him and be smitten by the man he reveals himself to be every single day. indian, only son, from wealthy background, self made billionaire, belongs to family steeped in hindu theistic tradition with pujas and havans at drop of topi: loves a girl for who she is, doesn't attempt to change her in any way, is non-ritualistic and agnostic/atheistic himself but doesn't expect wife to believe like him, never asks her to dress according to her new "status" (many in this forum have expected khushi to), gives her not 15 carat solitaires but a company as a karwa chauth gift so that she can be financially independent, not have to ask others for money.

now that's a real man. a dream man really.

i couldn't bear it if anything happened to either him or his pakoda maker. sheetal shoo.

when priya comes back it will be such fun to dissect, decode, dhak dhak through this phase.


Morning/Evening, InDi, G, Dazee and Beena Di...Dazee & InDi, loved your posts! Completely agree with everything you've said. Dazee, I have faith in these CVs, too...They have rectified what was necessary in only the way they can!!

After a long time, I felt the tremors today at first watch itself. Now a masterstroke in storytelling, the ME more than set us up for what was in store today. The depth in the epi was staggering, even with the flaws in execution at certain instances. But I am more than willing to overlook the lapses here. Before I go any further, loved the Naani-Anjali, NK-Sheetal scene...NK on a mission--may he not fail! The chess match was very telling...'Checkmate'-- Check & Mate(Priya, hahaha, another Crooner title!😉)--when have we discussed that in the Crooner before, and for whom? Who was victorious then? If the conclusion of today's match is an indicator, the road ahead is going to have plays and gambits which we least expected.

We are all united in sensing the storm on the horizon yet again...That shot of the full moon, a premonition as always. Will broken glass be next? I struggle with the track because of the sutradhaar: Sheetal's modus operandi is blatantly "obvious", just like it was with Shyam's scheming. But then we had that mind-numbing and utterly heart-stopping miscarriage which changed the trajectory of the story; I feel we are headed in the same direction here. The obvious conclusion would be that Sheetal will be "caught" by Khushi and Khushi's "suspicions" (and ours) will be confirmed. As Priya so eloquently reminded us a few Crooners ago, we are "seeing" this track through Khushi's eyes, and we are interpreting Sheetal through that lens. What if there is something/someone else there? The gambits. This is the piece I am struggling with the most, and really, I don't want to speculate about.

@InDi: Re. ASR and that amazingly poignant leap of faith and love today: Just brought me back to Priya again...That bridge convo she had referred to re. status, money, and what it takes to be Mrs. Arnav Singh Raizada. You closed the loop on her words today so brilliantly!! Not so much a prophecy as it is an awareness and complete acknowledgement of who she is to him now. Liberating his wife so that she can be independent. Not because she has asked for it, but because he knows that the future is never predictable, no matter what rituals, pujas, beliefs, etc tell us. It brings me back to his conversation with his Di, too...'Sab apni zindagi hai'---destiny determines when we come into this world and when we leave, but as far as 'living' in this world, he can have some control over it. In turn, he wants Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada to have (at the very least) financial control over her own life. And I LOVED that it incorporated her love for food and cooking--what mattered to her & her identity! I also loved the dialogue about registering her because there is no one like her!! That dialogue needs to be patented!!

If Khushi leaves without an explanation, ASR 's conviction in his love will be on trial. Somewhere a sense of defeat that he failed to convince Khushi about the atoot bharosa and vishwas...That faith=love are not just words. No matter how noble Khushi's intentions in reuniting a supposedly fatherless child with its biological father, fact remains that their love lost in the process; somewhere her insecurities trumped. And this fact remains even if she were to stay, too! What will spur him to win her back, knowing that there is no truth to this hand fate has laid in front of them? It will be a battle between good and evil, yet again. Innocence (both the child's and the couple's) and veiled vindictiveness spurring heads. In which "realm" will love triumph again? The battle begins now. En garde!

Priya, you would have loved the epi; thought of you throughout, my oracle!! Hope you had a chance to watch it, hun...😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Anji 🤗

I loved the episode . My only problem with this track besides execution is the CV's have yet to establish Sheetal's intentions . We are in the fourth week of Sheetal's entry and the Cv's have failed miserably in establishing the purpose of this track . I hope the track like Shyam's is not closed abruptly . Why do I get a feeling Shyam is involved ...Sheetal's entry seemed forced. Then again this has been the problem area with IPK opening and closing tracks no transition .

If Khushi walks out thinking of Arav , Arnav will be broken ...he hasn't succeeded in convincing Khushi what she means to him ...how can Khushi forget ...Mujhe chod ke mut jana mei tumhare bina jee nahi paunga . It will be very interesting to see how the CV's end this track.

Like you said Anji, I loved the fact Arnav gifted his Khushi what she loves the most besides him. I am so proud of the fact he addresses Khushi with her maiden / married name like Gandhari pointed out this is nayi soch .

It was good to see Mami talking to mamji 😆 Loved Anjali reflecting and reassuring Nani she is fine. Nk what can I say ...will be heart broken.

With Barun and Sanya gone for five days wish the CV's had introduced a new character for Anjali...many speculations are we getting a new character ?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandalala

Morning/Evening, InDi, G, Dazee and Beena Di...Dazee & InDi, loved your posts! Completely with everything you've said. Dazee, I have faith in these CVs, too...They have rectified what was necessary in only the way they can!!

After a long time, I felt the tremors today at first watch itself. Now a masterstroke in storytelling, the ME more than set us up for what was in store today. The depth in the epi was staggering, even with the flaws in execution at certain instances. But I am more than willing to overlook the lapses here. Before I go any further, loved the Naani-Anjali, NK-Sheetal scene...NK on a mission--may he not fail! The chess match was very telling...'Checkmate'-- Check & Mate(Priya, hahaha, another Crooner title!😉)--when have we discussed that in the Crooner before, and for whom? Who was victorious then? If the conclusion of today's match is an indicator, the road ahead is going to have plays and gambits which we least expected.

We are all united in sensing the storm on the horizon yet again...That shot of the full moon, a premonition as always. Will broken glass be next? I struggle with the track because of the sutradhaar: Sheetal's modus operandi is blatantly "obvious", just like it was with Shyam's scheming. But then we had that mind-numbing and utterly heart-stopping miscarriage which changed the trajectory of the story, I feel we are headed in the same direction here. The obvious conclusion would be that Sheetal will be "caught" by Khushi and Khushi's "suspicions" (and ours) will be confirmed. As Priya so eloquently reminded us a few Crooners ago, this track is through Khushi's eyes, and we are interpreting Sheetal through that lens. What if there is something/someone else there? The gambits. This is the piece I am struggling with the most, and really, I don't want to speculate about.

@InDi: Re. ASR and that amazingly poignant leap of faith and love today: Just brought me back to Priya again...That bridge convo she had referred to re. status, money, and what it takes to be Mrs. Arnav Singh Raizada. You closed the loop on her words today so brilliantly!! Not so much a prophecy as it is an awareness and complete acknowledgement of who she is to him now. Liberating his wife so that she can be independent. Not because she has asked for it, but because he knows that the future is never predictable, no matter what rituals, pujas, beliefs, etc tell us. It brings me back to his conversation with his Di, too...'Sab apni zindagi hai'---destiny determines when we come into this world and when we leave, but as far as 'living' in this world, he can have some control over it. In turn, he wants Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada to have (at the very least) financial control over her own life. And I LOVED that it incorporated her love for food and cooking--what mattered to her & her identity! I also loved the dialogue about registering her because she is so unique! That dialogue needs to be patented!!

If Khushi leaves without an explanation, ASR 's conviction in his love will be on trial. Somewhere a sense of defeat that he failed to convince Khushi about the atoot bharosa and vishwas...That faith=love are not just words. No matter how noble Khushi's intentions in reuniting a supposedly fatherless child with its biological father, fact remains that their love lost in the process; somewhere her insecurities trumped. What will spur him to win her back, knowing that there is no truth to this hand fate has laid in front of them? It will be a battle between good and evil, yet again. Innocence (both the child's and the couple's) and veiled vindictiveness spurring heads. In which "realm" will love triumph again? The battle begins now. En garde!

Priya, you would have loved the epi; thought of you throughout, my oracle!! Hope you had a chance to watch it, hun...😊


anjali, en garde it is.

and if i may add, despite all indications to the contrary, no one check mates asr. i have that bharosa on this character and its writers, not to mention the man who makes him live. agree with you utterly, the story is back. complex, cryptic, compelling. not only that, it is ipk in its soul again.

the day dadi entered there was a change in the patina, as though a harsh chemical had been used to shine up things. that harshness, a sense of khap panchayats, punishment by stoning, etc., seemed to enter the narrative. dadi was its poster girl, but its ultimate serve up was the killing of anjali's baby. the torn up feeling inside me at that point was pretty weird. considering this is "only" a serial. but oh the mind set, we can't let the villain's baby live/it will complicate things, anjali must have a "clean" start. who was in charge of that polished, forward looking, cool show i watched, where the protagonist had rejected his immoral father and his name, embraced his mother's family name and didn't believe in any conventional notion of god?

the only thing that saved those days for me, was arnav singh raizada himself. his declaration where his patni is not welcome, he doesn't think there's any place for him either. his assertion, khushi is his wife and she has the right to do what she pleases in this house. his determination to show his love to khushi and make her part of his life. his bewilderment when she rejects him on a flower bedecked bed on grounds of "incomplete" wedding though she'd referred to herself as his patni a few minutes ago. his natural anger at this and handling of a very difficult moment. his decision to marry her again the way she wants it, that to with his whole heart because he wants to make her happy. and finally of course, his turning the tables on dadi and her silly evil plan, and making the long journey from a past that held him in its grip through his mother's teachings and love all the way to a present and his love without whom life is not possible.

when he walked into the mandap, blood smeared and eyes glazed i really didn't care that dadi had ever appeared. with the "ana to tha hi," he filled the space with love again.

with his words to dadi that her son was to blame, not the two women he had cheated, he was the married man, not his lover so the problem was with him, he brought me back to the mindset of ipk again. straight clear words, reminded me of nk's simple direct reaction when he found out about shyam, but even more powerful: for he was a son who said it as it is about his father. what's more, he wished to move on. and all of this he said to his grandmother without showing lack of respect, even once.

i felt proud of even the channel that day. if we speak of indian culture, there was plenty of it in that speaking the truth without disrespect to anyone as also in doing the right thing, and of course in letting your elders (mother, here) guide you. the other high point had of course been khushi's submission.

ever since that awful wednesday when khushi went on a mad drive and we ended with a woman with shifty eyes and an uncomfortable smile, i have felt hope surging back. but mahaepisode really did signal we're at the next phase of love. let the games begin.

anjali, i don't want to speculate. but this is as priya says from khushi's pov. and maybe this time it will be her misunderstanding of a situation and the consequences of it.

twice he said "mein hara, tum jeet gayi," my heart said, you are always the winner in the end, not because you are arnav singh raizada but because you are who you have the courage to be, because asr is you.

"check mate" said the craftily designed mini-me. the original was surprised, 😆 good actor, huh. a dna report was delivered in the kitchen into the hands of the woman who loves to cook and now has been gifted a company where she can do just that. a tear drop rolled down a tender cheek. no need to be financially dependent on anyone... and what if i'm not there. i can understand it is difficult to leave... the status and comforts of being mrs arnav singh raizada. somewhere in this universe, if not here, there's a place where we will be together... humesha. main tumhare bina jee nahi paaonga. hum log kitne... ajeeb hain. ek vrat se yeh sab ho sakta hai kya. agar tumhara bhagwan hota toh duniya mein dard naam ka koi cheez nahi hota. hum samajhte hai, humey bharosa hai, aap pe... aap ke pyaar par.

the story has me in its thrall.

as we opened on that delightful conversation where we got back mamaji, as anjali expressed understated but normal reactions to karwa chauth, an occasion she must have celebrated with extreme devotion for the only man she'd ever loved and who turned out to be a monster, as red hot mahaepisode segued into yesterday, i missed crooner. this is primetime crooner material.

looking forward.
Edited by indi52 - 12 years ago
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aaah well said priya! great to see a post from you! well the show seems to be back to its originality mode! hope it stays longer!
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anjali, en garde it is.

and if i may add, despite all indications to the contrary, no one check mates asr. i have that bharosa on this character and its writers, not to mention the man who makes him live. agree with you utterly, the story is back. complex, cryptic, compelling. not only that, it is ipk in its soul again.

the day dadi entered there was a change in the patina, as though a harsh chemical had been used to shine up things. that harshness, a sense of khap panchayats, punishment by stoning, etc., seemed to enter the narrative. dadi was its poster girl, but its ultimate serve up was the killing of anjali's baby. the torn up feeling inside me at that point was pretty weird. considering this is "only" a serial. but oh the mind set, we can't let the villain's baby live/it will complicate things, anjali must have a "clean" start. who was in charge of that polished, forward looking, cool show i watched, where the protagonist had rejected his immoral father and his name, embraced his mother's family name and didn't believe in any conventional notion of god?

the only thing that saved those days for me, was arnav singh raizada himself. his declaration where his patni is not welcome, he doesn't think there's any place for him either. his assertion, khushi is his wife and she has the right to do what she pleases in this house. his determination to show his love to khushi and make her part of his life. his bewilderment when she rejects him on a flower bedecked bed on grounds of "incomplete" wedding though she'd referred to herself as his patni a few minutes ago. his natural anger at this and handling of a very difficult moment. his decision to marry her again the way she wants it, that to with his whole heart because he wants to make her happy. and finally of course, his turning the tables on dadi and her silly evil plan, and making the long journey from a past that held him in its grip through his mother's teachings and love all the way to a present and his love without whom life is not possible.

when he walked into the mandap, blood smeared and eyes glazed i really didn't care that dadi had ever appeared. with the "ana to tha hi," he filled the space with love again.

with his words to dadi that her son was to blame, not the two women he had cheated, he was the married man, not his lover so the problem was with him, he brought me back to the mindset of ipk again. straight clear words, reminded me of nk's simple direct reaction when he found out about shyam, but even more powerful: for he was a son who said it as it is about his father. what's more, he wished to move on. and all of this he said to his grandmother without showing lack of respect, even once.

i felt proud of even the channel that day. if we speak of indian culture, there was plenty of it in that speaking the truth without disrespect to anyone as also in doing the right thing, and of course in letting your elders (mother, here) guide you. the other high point had of course been khushi's submission.

ever since that awful wednesday when khushi went on a mad drive and we ended with a woman with shifty eyes and an uncomfortable smile, i have felt hope surging back. but mahaepisode really did signal we're at the next phase of love. let the games begin.

anjali, i don't want to speculate. but this is as priya says from khushi's pov. and maybe this time it will be her misunderstanding of a situation and the consequences of it.

twice he said "mein hara, tum jeet gayi," my heart said, you are always the winner in the end, not because you are arnav singh raizada but because you are who you have the courage to be, because asr is you.

"check mate" said the craftily designed mini-me. the original was surprised, 😆 good actor, huh. a dna report was delivered in the kitchen into the hands of the woman who loves to cook and now has been gifted a company where she can do just that. a tear drop rolled down a tender cheek. no need to be financially dependent on anyone... and what if i'm not there. i can understand it is difficult to leave... the status and comforts of being mrs arnav singh raizada. somewhere in this universe, if not here, there's a place where we will be together... humesha. main tumhare bina jee nahi paaonga. hum log kitne... ajeeb hain. ek vrat se yeh sab ho sakta hai kya. agar tumhara bhagwan hota toh duniya mein dard naam ka koi cheez nahi hota. hum samajhte hai, humey bharosa hai, aap pe... aap ke pyaar par.

the story has me in its thrall.

as we opened on that delightful conversation where we got back mamaji, as anjali expressed understated but normal reactions to karwa chauth, an occasion she must have celebrated with extreme devotion for the only man she'd ever loved and who turned out to be a monster, as red hot mahaepisode segued into yesterday, i missed crooner. this is primetime crooner material.

looking forward.




Anjali and Indi, brilliant takes -- all of them. Loved each of your posts and the depth and feeling with which you wrote. Yes, on guard and onward. Intense drama and intrigue building up and loops will be closed as we go along, it feels like.

Really missing the crooner and priya's take on all this.

@Indi, you put it so well -- that this is the story of the next phase of their love...where their future together is at risk of being sabotaged and all that comes from dealing with what they are up against now.

And I simply loved your discussion of the Dadi phase and khap-panchayat-ness of the miscarriage decision. And also whhat you wrote about why ASR works so well for you -- 'he is who he has the courage to be.' that was brilliantly put.

As Indi and Anjali both said, how will the kid's angle be played out this time? Does his future diverge from the future of his supposed mother? Sheetal is playing a game, that much is clear (or so it seems especially from today), but who is with her? Or behind her? Is she being coerced, or is she an obsessed former flame who never got over her unrequited love for him. But why come here now, 10 years later?
So I'm with you Anjali, that we'll have to wait and see how it all unfolds. The cvs and their surprises...


Anjali, loved what you wrote in the last paragraph. A separation if not physical, then at least of hearts and minds seems all but inevitable. And yes, it is a search byArnav and khushi, as priya said in the last crooner, of his khushi...who knows truly understands her place in his life, now and always.

Looking forward to the unpeeling of the onion ...and also to a crooner perhaps?
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