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Posted: 12 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Varma.nishi


Look I miss Snakewa ..pla I am asking you to tine down ur language...just for on person, I DONOT want the thread to be closed.

U can rant in the forum ...

Where did I rant in this post? Please enlighten me. I am just sad that my favourite couple Arhi's characters are being butchered. I can see that, like most people. Maybe u can't. I don't want to be delusional. And tone down my language? You have used caps in your post which indicates u are shouting; that is classed as rude. I have never used caps in this thread and I politely put forward my views. If you don't agree with it fine; even I don't agree with your views. There will always be opposing views. But dude, please learn to accept others views. Everyone won't always have same views.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I have read many posts in this forum saying that if the PH doesnt have ideas for new tracks why dont they visit IF and checkout some of the fan-fictions written by talented writers.. Now its ok if we ask them to do so and they oblidge us but its not ok if they themselves take the initiataive for the overall betterment of the show which has been a complain for a while.. Now why these double standards?? Lets make peace with certain facts.. Every freakin show on television loses the initial momentum after a year or so. I think IPK team have done a tremendous job in that aspect, maintaining the momentum and holding the interest of fans worldwide for more than a year.. Trust me its not easy to come up with awesome episodes on a daily basis...The current track in my opinion is well thought track with a lot of potential to explore post marriage ArShi relationship and they are doing a decent job so far.. Yes, I agree in some episodes execution has not been upto the mark but the overall concept of the track is good... Problem is we get impatient when we dont get to see romance but I think in this show romance has always happened in the backdrop of a track..We got a good dose of ArShi romance before and during the whole re-marriage track and I am sure we will get it again..But trashing the show , the PH and the team for every move they make is not correct.. IPK is dead, RIP ArShi, RIP IPK , all these non sense posts are not needed in a forum where a lot of people come because they love the show.Its not fair to people who want the show to go on.. Whoever has a problem with the track or the show as a whole has a choice to stop watching it..simple..why ruin the mood of people who watch it? Anyway, I welcome the move by the PH although I think they are very much capable of entertaining us on their own like they have been doing for the past 1.5 years..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#73
Agree with major portion of what you say, but its not an easy job to get loyal viewers to give their time to a show and also come back on Forum and comment about it, the viewers also have lots of other stuff in their lives and their time is not easy as such...


All We are asking for is to maintain Character Consistency and not degrade the character as the audience cannot connect back ... as easily...

It takes months and years to build a character and just a week of episodes to loose the magic that is created by the hard work of so many people... as you have rightly mentioned..


There is no past glory when it comes to TV serials, we have to deliver to a minimum standard every day though not an Exotic episode ...


Understand that expecting and comprehending Audience reaction ahead is the Job of the CVs and they cannot back off from it.

The Success of Sheakesphere was his ability to understand what audience wanted and what their reactions were as he was a screen puller for years before he became a successful writer... please remind the PH about this...


They can do anything they want with the track and the story but they have to maintain the character consistency...






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Posted: 12 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: zee_armaan

The one thing that riled me up was the 'open letter to viewers' where the PH wrote that the story has run its full course and there is not much left to the show, they need new ideas to keep it running. Now how do you expect fans to react when they read something like this?


Trust me i have pondered over this subject so many f***ing times and have actually come to accept atleast Khushi's CHANGE in characterisation (definitely not the same from pre-February) but ASR, I'm sorry I don't buy that. We are ready to accept comedy, no romance for 5 bloody weeks and what not but this shit-al track and then the PH complaining that they've tried enough, in a sense 'dekhna hai toh dekho' is just too much IMO. Yes we over-react and spread negativity, and yes this could lead to the doom of IPK but honestly, were we the ones that stretched the story longer than it was supposed to run? Were we the ones that compromised during December 2011 comedy track, DKS track and letting Mr. Sobti off for 45 days? No na!

As far as i remember cooking competition and pickle making was supported by the TRP audience, not its online fans (atleast those of the couple anyway) and these shows have loyal audiences who will watch anything if told with confidence and with lots of drama. If 4Lions wants a loyal fanbase who will support the show no matter what i think they should venture into soap operas and social issue shows, not love stories coz like you've said countless times, it takes the effort of a lot of people to make a show.

Please do not tell me this isn't a business venture (not denying it isn't more than that for them), once a product has had its full run either it goes into cessation or renewal. IPK has matured and had a good run, agreed but if this is how they renew their product then I'm sorry audiences won't buy that (and haven't if we go by 4Lions latest 'open letter to viewers')

Finally I just want to say that no-one's denying what the PH has given us, but the product they are selling today is not of the standard they have maintained till date and this primarily why there is so much negativity spreading. Some level of negativity was always there from the beginning of the show right till end of Shyam revelation which was mid october, that didn't get the show closed but there's got to be a reason for the recent rise in negativity. I do not think singular internet fans could lead to the closure of a show but that's my opinion, TRP verdict should clear it all that's if the makers want to keep the show till then.


Well let me refresh ur memory darling...IPK has been one of the most popular shows of the recent times...no matter what u say, the CVs know their job and have been doing it , when soaps run for years together then the TRPs are bound to dwindle once in a while..ESP when the kead actor is not there.
The show managed to come back to top 5 before the close of the TRP. Also, unfortunately, the daily audience of pickle making etc and even IPK DONOT create a ruckus unlike the online audience...the PH is givung thema na opportunity to stae their views. Other PHs follow wat ever they want to without even giving an ounce of whatvthevfans wants

I think it's time IPK should do that. Over speculation and criticism for no rhyme or reason, Read KC here, basically the fans have decided to criticize everything.
So should the PH take it as now the fans are done with it ?????
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Posted: 12 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: jusah

It's a fact proved over centuries and is applicable to not only text books and academic curriculum but also to the practical daily life.

Yup, perfectly true. But the action and reaction act on different bodies. So you see , our reaction is meant for PH only and their action is "what they show" is on us viewers. So no way they will interact with each other.




Like everyone here is entitled to their own views and perspectives, I am too gonna state some facts which some may like some may not. But nevertheless like always I am gonna bring to your notice some facts.

1. When someone is constantly criticized for his/her work, there is bound to be retaliation and hence, an outburst. Running a TV show is the job of the team and it's better left to them than assuming things unnecessarily and telling them what to do every now and then. Its not only exasperating but also demeaning the hard work of hundreds who work together to put up a daily show every week day.
Viewers do appreciate it. And hats off to the team, who managed to intrude our daily lives so deeply.!!




2. When loyal viewers can appreciate baby growing, pickle making and cooking competition, why is it that viewers here have problems with anything and everything that is shown?

Because you are not just any ordinary show. You have set your own standards. Try to keep with them. Don't compare yourself with the ordinary...





3. Constant bashing or criticism only gives others an opportunity to take advantage of the situation and fulfill their selfish interest..FYI everyday people from other forums are making new accounts here requesting to shut down the show.

We are giving our feedback because your show matters to us. Don't get affected by such messages. The best way to fight them is "Prove yourself".




4. As layman viewers if one does not understand the dynamics as to how things work off screen, it is best not to glorify meaningless views like the PH is trying to kill its own show, leads have better things to do hence, are not interested etc. Trust me you have no idea where all this is coming from and where is it leading.

Yes, we are laymen, but remember we are your customers and in this era, Customer is God. Finally you are working to sell your product to us so customer feedback should be the bible for you.





5. There could be a slip here and there but that does not mean that the makers have to be reminded every now and then what they are supposed to do. They are on the sets working for hours together and know what is to come.


I am sure all of us have stood through thick and thin with PH for some slips so far. It is when it is unbearable then, this hue and cry happens.




6. Yesterday's note was an outburst, a challenge for people claiming that they know better and do not take it as request. Trust me by sitting in front of your laptop screens It is easier said than done. When u actually write scripts, execute and enact it, it is a different ball game altogether.

I am sure it is true. That's why you are there and we are here.




7. For those who think the show is just a business venture for the PH, let me tell you, you are emotionally attached to it, but when you are on the other side of the camera , it is difficult to feel what you feel and vice versa. Haven't Sarun time and again stated that they just do the scenes, but we as viewers understand the chemistry. It's not the same for them.


Hats off to Sarun and directors for doing their job so perfectly that Arhi have become such a sweet impression on our emotional psyche that it will continue to be so, for years to come.


8. Finally, for days together now I have said and stated and I understand you POV coz u DONOT know what is to come? I have tried to make you understand (Karwa Chauth scenario and the characterization). If you DONOT want to help yourself, then I guess no one can.


You know, I want to read between the lines and believe myself that Karwa Chauth scenario is going to be on positive note. and yes, if it is going to be so, I look forward to switch on TV at 8 pm again to visit IPK land with dhaks dhaks and Rabba veys...



PS if you feel you are done with the show, kindly move on or else if u have to voice opinion about the show to shut down, or whatever, do so politely. Trust me you are being heard. DONOT read too much and assume things unnecessarily.

We don't want to be done with the show. You see, for PH it may be their business ( sorry , I think it is more than that) but for us it has become a part of life and we care ... we love the show.



Agree with blue
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Posted: 12 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Varma.nishi


Well let me refresh ur memory darling...IPK has been one of the most popular shows of the recent times...no matter what u say, the CVs know their job and have been doing it , when soaps run for years together then the TRPs are bound to dwindle once in a while..ESP when the kead actor is not there.
The show managed to come back to top 5 before the close of the TRP. Also, unfortunately, the daily audience of pickle making etc and even IPK DONOT create a ruckus unlike the online audience...the PH is givung thema na opportunity to stae their views. Other PHs follow wat ever they want to without even giving an ounce of whatvthevfans wants

I think it's time IPK should do that. Over speculation and criticism for no rhyme or reason, Read KC herehe fans have , basically tdecided to criticize everything.
So should the PH take it as now the fans are done with it ?????



that's not true Nishita, that fans have decided to critize everything, did you read any criticism till the DKS n the following tracks started?They set the standards for themselves very high and once you do that the consumers will naturally want the same standard.

I realise this has become a "Schlacht feld" (war zone).

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Posted: 12 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Varma.nishi



Bang on I believe that the PH should not have interacted with the fans and show what they wanna show..this PH is accommodating and gives liberties to everyone the dans, the actors and that is why it is misunderstood.


nishi this is a post i agree to completely..the PH should give the audiences their story...but their interaction with their fans and the need to please them have led to this state...hearing some opinions are fine but they made it seem they heeded everything..now every member is just complaining! there are other drama viewers who just see what the PH wants to show them and they happily view it...the PH should lessen their intwraction with fans. will save them alot of energy!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Varma.nishi

Well let me refresh ur memory darling...IPK has been one of the most popular shows of the recent times...no matter what u say, the CVs know their job and have been doing it , when soaps run for years together then the TRPs are bound to dwindle once in a while..ESP when the kead actor is not there.
The show managed to come back to top 5 before the close of the TRP. Also, unfortunately, the daily audience of pickle making etc and even IPK DONOT create a ruckus unlike the online audience...the PH is givung thema na opportunity to stae their views. Other PHs follow wat ever they want to without even giving an ounce of whatvthevfans wants

I think it's time IPK should do that. Over speculation and criticism for no rhyme or reason, Read KC here, basically the fans have decided to criticize everything.
So should the PH take it as now the fans are done with it ?????


Not denying that IPK wasn't and isn't popular, hell it is it has the largest fan base of any indian show on the internet but most of us do not represent that Indian market. We haven't affected them for 1.5 years they've had the freedom to show anything they want anyhow they want, with both forms of feed back now when they want to move onto something else after 'the show's run its full course' they conveniently blame the online audience for demanding too much and the doom of the show. What a lovely way of thanking the fans for sticking to the show for 1.5 years.

TRPs dwindled even when the lead actor was there only they compromised to accept someone else's demands and change the track to suit their conditions. If TRP audience creates a ruckus, it reflects in the TRPs and that the show has more than seen in the last six months, we're not the only fans who trouble the PH and demand change. Well in that case I urge the PH to not given the fans an ounce of consideration and show what they want like theyve done for 1.5 years. Ultimate decider is TRPs anywho so let the show 'runs its course' and put enough effort you've put in at all those times the TRP soared including marriage track and let the TRPs decide the fate of the show, not online reactions. I'm with you on the last part, it's high time the CVs stop basing decisions on every fans crying and ranting and do what they want.

Criticism was always there but it rose post-marriage track especially during DKS and now this whatever track. They say when a customer has a good experience with a business they spread word of mouth to two people, but when they have a bad experience they go and spread negative word of mouth to 7 people. If allthis criticism affected the show from the very start the show would've finished ages back.
Edited by zee_armaan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#79


They r in biz for a while...but it's their habit to just let go...they make anew show n their old one goes down the drain...now I know why geet lovers use to hate iipkians...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Varma.nishi


Mind your language ...I don't want My thread to close down becoz of morons like u ...

We can politely agree to disagree..keep the discussion clean

Do not tell the PH how ITBIS supposed to make profits theybkniw better than u that is why they are there and not u.
Now darling tell me according to u any PH should make just one show and not o there's cozmu don't like it right...when parents have one child and the child learns to be self dependent they should still stick around with one and not have two ..is that what u mean..anyway that is their personal business not urs.

The last point is a typo ..read main post...I write their will be typos. And I feel u need to get some knowledge about off screen stuff be4 I even think of talking tomu agian. For all practical purposes I am done with u .,thank u for stooping by and posting.



If freaking is a good language according to you then moron is not that bad either. Darling, only when the child just learn how to stand up parents don't cripple the child and go for another, even if they have another still pay more attention to the cripple one. I don't think you have enough knowledge either my dear. You thought I will stick around for you!! dream on..


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