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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyam Evilness personified!

Adayyanam Upadanam Himsa Chaiva Vidhanatah|
Paraadaropaseva Cha Kayikam Tri-Vidham Smritam||

Meaning - As per the vidhana, social/dharmic/moral laws, taking what is not one's own, physical violence, and having affair/longing with/for someone else's wife - are remembered as the three sins done by the body.

Parushyamanritam Chaiva Paishunyam Chapi Sarvashah|
Asambaddha Pralapam Cha Vangmayam Syaat Chaturvidham ||

Meaning - Harsh of words and lies and talking ill (slander) and talking incessantly and irrelevantly are surely the four types of sins of the speech.

Paradravyeshvobhi Dhyanam Manasanishta Chintanam |
Vitathabhinivesham Cha Manasam Tri-vidham Smritam ||

Meaning - Thoughts of acquiring others' wealth, thinking of harming others and liking for falseness (e.g. rumors) - are remembered as three sins of the mind.

* Sanskrit Sloka's are quoted from http://blog.practicalsanskrit.com.
Original Source is not provided.

So in total 10 sins that have been defined
Three of the body -
  1. Taking what is not given - weath/property which shyam wants to take is not his and neither is given to him, but what he wants he is taking it with force.
  2. Violence - He is using Kidnapping and the subsequent physical harm to his own Brother-in-law through hired goons. Had harmed Khushi's Bauji...
  3. Taking to others' wife - He lusts for Khushi...who is Arnav's wife. Even before when she was married...he lied about his own status..weaving fantasies of his life with Khushi!

Four of the speech -
  1. Harshness of words - He is a manipulator and has used his tongue either the sweet sugary way or the use of harsh tone to get his work done. We have witnessed both.
  2. Lies - He lied multiple times. I do not think I have to count how many times he has lied...to every relation in his circle.
  3. Slander - He talks ill of Arnav, especially to Khushi. If given a chance he would declare that to the whole world...
  4. Incoherent, incessant blabbering - He gloats on and on about himself, boasting his powers, making no sense at times forgetting the truth.

Three of the mind -
  1. Thinking of others' wealth - He not only thinks, but loots everyone he knows...uses other people's weakness to fulfill his vile ambitions.
  2. Thinking ill for others - He never wishes good for anyone except himself.
  3. Liking for rumors, myths, fantasy - He misuses his Knowledge/tongue to create illusion, about his status and his personality, to trap others, he has been doing so adeptly.
With personifying all the evil qualities he is doomed for sure!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey very happy to post in the second page...Waiting for ur analysis doods and brilliant title this time...

Loved each and every bit of episode. The truth of the kidnapper has come out in open and its none other than expected Shyam😊

The flashback were properly taken and supported and answered all the questions specially why arnav has kept alive so long... I think some extent it can be accepted

Here Khushi is agin lost in her world reminicensing the memories which she cherishes with her husband. She also remembers how arnav was close to her that too watering the plants which her husband is close to😊😊

Liked the scene where anjali tells that monsoon has come and arnav will normally close all the windows and on the ac and make the room cold and she gets the blanket. This scene was so touching for me as it told me that arnav may become cold to khushi but finally the love will bring the warmth in their relationship👏👏👏. It was a nice gesture of anjali that thinking khushi is missing arnav she along with nani and payal dresses like ASR😊 The background score was powerpacked today👏

The poem was such a stronh lines which had numerous hints that clearly indicated that good times are ahead and when khushi calls him arnav will surely will come running towards her and knows that how much she missed him👏👏 A big thanks to CV's for that...

Finally Khushi formed the treaty with her Devi Mayya again. It was because of arnav she fought with devi maiyya and now for arnav she begged her pardon and asked dm to guide her..The FB's were apt and showed the belief of god in Khushi and sure DM will help Khushi in finding her Arnav. And the first sign was to make khushi see the kidnappers shoes and the remaining path will lead her to arnav by DM👏
Edited by sarunrocks - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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This Sinking ship title is for Shyam for sure...

Will wait for ur analysis Doods... 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The Unsung Heroes

Dint think after the wonderful Dabang episode of Friday '. The excitement quotient could be maintained ' but woe begone ' Khan Sahab u managed to do it & do it in Style '

Wow the first few minutes of the episode were simply mind boggling ' the intense action .. the struggle ' the intrigue' will he be unmasked wont he be unmasked '.. made the start of the episode more than mere thrilling'. All superbly capped by Barun Dreamboat Sobti's wonderful performance' & drooly good looks '.

Finally '. The moment happened'.. the unmasking of the villain .. of the Boss .. of the kidnapper ' Shyam Manohar Jha ' the whole unmasking was extremely beautifully & artfully shot ' the layers of Shyam unfolding .. with the layers of his whole kidnapping plan.. right from his sighting of Arnav' s will to the moment of moving Arnav to another location '. Khan sahab made us travel the whole distance 'of Shyam's nefarious plans '' along with the unveiling of Shyam the villains face'.

So many times when we watch a serial & then finally connect with it .. we are lost in the brilliance of only that' that is in front of us ' the actors'

Today the whole day every fan or follower of IPK discussed only one thing the possibility of Daljeet leaving ' & who would replace her '.

I wanted to take this opportunity to dedicate a write up to the guys ' who make us NOT want Daljeet to quit ' not because it is Daljeet Bhanot ' its because we cant imagine an IPK without Anjali Jha ' We all feel Daljeet is perfect as Anjali .. she has the look ' how many of us have worried that the person giving that look the Stylist of the show shud'nt leave ' she is ultimately the person giving her the classy look. When we see the "chemistry" between Arnav & Anjali ' we rejoice ' but what is chemistry ' but not great a mixture of good direction, good shot taking .. good camera work, good screenplay & good dialogues ' & of course good acting ... but the behind the scenes work tends to take a back seat ...

(please note this post is in no way undermining the actors role in the success of a serial .. nor am I inspired by Gautam's rant ' it is just after an episode where the maker was king I wanted to come out & shout out about their brilliance)

For me what I took back from the episodes purely from a technical aspect were the 2 sequences .. first the initial fight scene in kidnappers den & subsequent unveiling of Shyam & Khushi's interaction with Devi maiyya' & my post is written primarily with these 2 sequences in mind '

Todays episode marked the coming of age of Arshad Khan as the director of the show '. The first 5 minutes absolved you today of all the past mistakes ' the whole fight sequence was brilliantly shot ' the shot construction .. camera placement & angles .. the use of slow motion ' made the whole sequence just burst out with brilliance ' the First box on Arnav ' & the use of high speed ( slow motion) for the box to complete & Arnav's face moving ' had the biggest impact on me ' I was like Shree Ganesh itna achha hai to pura episode toh brilliant hi hoga.

What amazingly good lighting today Gandhiji .. ( even though the trademark Guru dutt lighting ' (shaft of light from a window pane) was used) ' the whole soft grey tone lighting ' the highlight lighting of Arnav's face when one of the goons boxed him ' the shadow play lighting when arnav was beating up the goons was simply brilliantly executed ' The best part of the lighting effect today was the blue carpet used on the floor ' it just added the most amazing hue to the whole fight sequence ' it made an already fantastic scene ' aesthetically brilliant.

Madam Ganga & Sir Amit ' please take a bow the editing was simply superb today '. What perfect cuts today '. Infact the entire post production was par excellent ' brilliant cuts specially when Arnav gets the first box on his face ' when Arnav starts beating up the goons ' & finally when the hero falls .. all brilliantly edited ' But today the piece de resistance was the use of flashbacks through out the episode be It Shyam's or Khushi's it was fantastically executed without a single jerk '

Specially Shyam's FB's loved the whole construction of the sequence ' the unveiling of Shyam .. the fab movement of the rocking chair ( so reminiscent of a big bad villain on his throne) ' the walk of Shyam in the room all interspersed with him recalling his nefarious plans '.all tied up perfectly ' with all the right FB's used. After a long time today the editing was in synch with what was shot on the set ... the scenes were laid out in perfect harmony and synchrony ... to put it simply the scenes flowed logically from one to the other ... without any filler shots (close ups added) made the whole viewing so seamless ... pls use this as ur reference point in future too ...


The sequence of Khushi walking to the temple today ' again another landmark scene '.

( 2 in a day Khan sahab u were on a roll) it was beautifully & poignantly shot like when she walked away from her Devi Maiyya ' if in the walking away from DM sequence the lighting & sound mixing played a strong role ' then in todays walking towards DM ' the heroes were the dialogues which were just emotionally perfect ' conveyed every nuance of Khushi's innocence'. her love for her hubby ' her angst .. her torture & above all her aloneness in all this ' her need for her best friends reassurance that all will be well ' a sign from DM'. the other thing that made this simple scene mind blowing was the clever editing ' the use of FB's was superb 'But the main thing that made this scene pop were ofcourse u Khan Sahab ' I know this cudnt have been written & this nuance was urs on the set .. the hesitation of Khushi when she steps in to meet her DM '. Wow fab fab fab ' u showed us your sensitive side so well here '. Today one could see a Khushi who is off her mind worrying for her husband ' u could see a Khushi so broken .. so lost ' that she had to turn to the one thing in her life that gives her strength .. one thing which gives her the courage to move forward in life her DM ' so broken is the girl that she hesitated to go there & ask for help ' I loved this to the bits ' its these small touches which makes a director brilliant ' & u did it today .

While technical brilliance was once again there for all of us to see '. There was someone silently'playing such an important role in todays episode ' infact if not for him .. the whole Arnav Khushi saga would sour ' it's the Music of IPK '.

Raju Singh ' what can I say about you that's not already been said ' no wonder Amitabh Bacchan is a fan '. Today the whole unveiling of Shyam was more brilliant because of the famous Shyam tune ' the music is so peppy ' so brilliant ' so different from any other trademark tunes used here for a villain ... that it comes out as a shocker ... but for me it sums up Shyam '

A man full of Greed ' a man full of cunning ' a man who is out & out BAD' a man who lusts after what is not his '

Raju sir if u immortalized Arnav Khushi love story with ur Rabba Ve .. then todays tune ' has elevated Shyam's character beautifully (I think it is the first time the whole tune was played out' CVs pls use this tune its fab)

But at the risk of getting beaten up on the forum ' I am going to write this next piece '.

For me the shot of the day was Arnav falling before Shyam's chair & Shyam immediately putting his feet ( shoes) on his face '.

This was simply brilliant ' great technically & even greater thought ' recall my fridays analysis on Shyam's character '

The other is his ego : normally a parasite like him should not have much of an ego ... but our man does ... the whole 40K thingy proves that ... the fact that he wants the whole property now ... shows that the man has as big an ego as ASR ... & today we got a brilliant glimpse of the same ... in the precap ' His ego has been crushed time & time again by the Raizada wealth ' a violent man should react ' but he is waiting to attack he is planning an attack ( very bad at attack planning must say though ) ' because once again his Greed won over his EGO '

Shyam's character ' while shades keep getting unclothed ( pun intended) has remained constant throughout the time he has been shown as the villain of the piece.

Now look at the brilliance of the Creatives .. the two most important ( I call these important because we have only glimpsed these .. but will be most important to the story line) aspects of Shyam's nature .. His Mad Rage & His Ego ' find a parallel in our Hero as well ' both have monumental egos & both have monumental tempers ' & when they eventually clash ' it will be DABANG ' They are so similar yet only one thing differs in them '

One is GOOD & one is EVIL

I Kept wondering to my self '.these are the 2 most important aspects of Shyam's character & then why were they being veiled by the CV's ' & today the team goes & unveils this ' ASR dint fall at his feet ' he fell on the floor & Shyam quickly put his foot down ' to get Arnav on his feet ' Its not just about money here ' ( while GREED is the biggest factor driving Shyam) Look how his EGO was in play today ' he kept rubbing his cheek while remembering how he brought down ASR ' the same ASR who had slapped him ' he dint move an inch when Arnav came to try to unmask him 'he sat patiently '. Almost daring Arnav to come & unmask him ' Confident that he will get away with what he wants ... Wealth & Lust ( Money & KHushi)

For Shyam his EGO is driving him now .. it has come into play '. It would be one of the main reasons of his defeat as well ' a glimpse of which we saw today ' he let his EGO overpower him today .. when he moved his shoes to Arnav's face '. It was his EGO calling him to humiliate Arnav ' but what it did was it lead to .. his revelation ' Khushi saw the blood on his shoes when she bent to pick up DM's chunnari ..

But in no way is Shyam also resting on his laurels ' when Khushi comes back from the temple disturbed ' & Anjali questions her ' Shyam immediately jumps in enquiring off her .. if u noted his expressions '. He wanted to know what Khushi knows ' what she has managed to figure out & he almost breathes a sigh of relief when he hears Anjali saying its just worry for Arnav ' clearly indicating that our man does not trust Khushi' s will to find Arnav ' He is not Over Confident '. BUT BUT BUT ' His EGO is in play '.

( Abhaas ur truly taking the show on ur shoulders ... can't wait to see the clash of titans ... Dreamboat & the Titanic (Shyam) )

EGO which is also the biggest strength that ASR has '

The clash of EGOs is what we will be soon seeing between these two ..the whole bringing the EGO into play was very well executed Mr. Khan '

Will this EGO play of Shyam be the reason of his defeat ' with Arnav '

Will Arnav use his biggest strength his EGO to crush Shyam with his biggest weakness his EGO'

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Edited by redwine1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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<sarcasasm>
Yesterday's episode left me numb and shocked. Really! the crescendo of suspense built up by the CVs reached its peak and I am shocked to see the kidnapper😲. OMG its shyam. Unbeleivable. Hats off to the creative intelligence of CVs.I am a fanwaaa 👏
</sarcasasm>.

I have 3 points to ponder today!


Shyam - I have been gloating that I know this villain shyam and his ways. Clearly I have been proven wrong and here you go we get another version of shyam yesterday. The arrogent, cunning and above all cool 'Don' villain. Sudden evolution of Shyam into a bold and brave avtar, from the coward and slightly delusional avatar. 😕. Anyway abhass was really handsome yesterday.😳

Personally i would have preferred CVs slowing building up the villain act of shyam step by step and show how he has grown in to the shrewd villain he is now, instead of showing the sudden change into the new 'don.(I don't know how much the suspense element worked with FBs and all. For me it fell flat!) It would have made more sense for me than this sudden change. But anyway 'TRP audience is the king' and me a poor netizen. So royally ignore me.

Fight sequence -After seeing the precap I was relectant to watch the sequence. But it turned out nice. Infact i watched the scene couple of times. 'ASRs walk to Shyam' captured the ASR's lordliness with full essense.It goes to my fav scene list. 👏. *applauds*

Khushi -

She is my fav character still I could not help penning ti down!

For me yesterday's high point was DM and Khushi patch up. Ever since khushi broke up with DM she was erring at so many places. Her lack of understanding the gravity of situations, her inability to trust the loved ones, judgmental errors when it comes to shyam/ASR are few to name. Hope this new step bring a new beginning to her and her character. I really really wish.

"An 18 year old small town girl from UP, she is simple, rooted in family and is driven by a clear moral compass."

Agree with situations your character evolves or matures but not to the extend that you feel disconnect with the basic structure. With khushi I was confused. Have you guys observed the ease at which khushi lies these days! Be it naani, anjali, maami, lie comes to her easily. Ofcourse, I have to look at the bigger picture and see the 'goodnees of intentions'. Well, the integrity of a character can be judged from small things and you can not blame if the larger picture is overlooked. Somewhere something is not fitting right. Khushiji - your moral compass is not working? 😕

When i read dood's title, My mind was fixed on khushi. She was a clean-handed character and the pact with devil just put a blot on it. As I said, we can give the leverage of 'good intentions' to it and overlook. But for me was clearly the result of lack of sound judgement and intelligence. A single hole can sink the ship, no matter how rigid it is. So her return to DM scene has a special significance for me.

See Post arhi marriage tide should have turned in favor of khushi and here I am a pure khushi phanka cribbing against her character changes. Hope CVs take care of her more now.

Hope DM guides her to herself as well, not just to ASR.
Edited by sree07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Everyone has done such a wonderful job of analyzing the episode today so I will keep mine short and mention 2 things that struck me:
- Khushi hesitating to enter DM place...then using her right foot to enter. The last time Khushi spent so much time deciding how to enter a place was RM. Did they just equate RM to DM home?

- Shyam walk: the last time we saw such a prolonged view of Shyam walking slowly with his (rather fantastic and catchy) BG score, he saved Khushi from trouble that was caused indirectly by Arnav. Today we see this walk of Shyam - perhaps he will now save *albeit indirectly* Arnav from trouble that was caused indirectly by Khushi!


Edited by aashi_82 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Beginnings...The birthpangs and the beginning of the rise of the new and improved ASR...The bells tolling for the beginning of the fall of SMJ.

Looking forward to your analysis, Doods and all wonderful ladies!

Edited by siamesecat - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shreya_l

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Shreya simply beautiful... what a unique way to sum up not only Shyam but the whole serial ... very very nice i loved it ...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Doodle: me is confused..why title sinking ship..whats the meaning here..isnt the ship coming to a shore now..she has started to find out who has done this..arnav knows the truth..how is the ship sinking..or u meant something else and i got it wrong again..
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Originally posted by: redwine1

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Ruby yaar.. you have given another dimension to this serial.. Kaha hum log sar phatak phatak ke decode kar rahe the .. kaha tum camera,lights angle soch rahi thi!! Now look at our dilemma .. We already have enough on our shoulder.. the decoding part.. Now we have to watch the scenes so carefully that your analysis will shed light on.. Talk about rubbing on the woes... yaar dost ho tho aisa ho!!! 😆
Wonderful job my lady!! Awesome awesome..

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