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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people! :)


2) The dream sequence : Nah! It was BS and SI for me - playing around! Khushi has wild imaginations agreed but nevertheless - she has always imagined ASR as Arnav not as BS. And it was so much BS in that scene so did not gel with me.

3) Khushi's realization : The ILU played exactly like I had hoped it would. First the happiness - then the confusion and then the sadness. ILU was the biggest hint (even if Arnav did not mean it as a hint) because for all Khushi has gone through it is difficult for her to believe that Arnav actually loves her.

I know everyone is disappointed with the ILU, but for me Arnav and Khushi are above ILU. They have already confessed zillion of times and ILU is not how I want their confession to happen. It should be with beautiful words - which have never been spoken - but felt - I am keeping my fingers crossed for it - for I loved this ILU and I know I will love the actual confession as well! :)

I did not read yesterday's redux but am going through it now. But I totally agree with you. I would not be disappointed with the dream sequence if she had dreamed about Arnav the way she knows him. But she is filmy so I let it slide.
Like I said earlier whether the ILU was heartfelt or meant as a hint does not matter. But he confessed and that gave Khushi the motivation to start solving the puzzle is what made me happy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: shreya_l

The Story of Love

Akath Kahani Prem Ki, Kutchu Kahi Na Jaye,
Goonge Keri Sarkara, Baithe Muskae|

Translation
Inexpressible is the story of Love, it cannot be revealed by words
Like the mute eating sweet sarkara (Sugar), only smiles...the sweetness he cannot tell/speak😛

Meaning
Kabir refers to the situation of a person in Love, a person who has realized the Truth. This compassionate one does not brag, does not talk for the wise one knows that it would be as futile an effort as the mute smile of a person trying to express the sweetness of the sugar.
In our daily life too, we find that silence projects our love expressions better than the hollow words we utter for another. Truly it has been said that Love does not need the crutches of a language to express the inexpressible state of being in Love.

I found that the meaning was better expressed at this site hence quoting the source....

Glad it was only a dream sequence of Khushi...hope it stays so....
Thanks to all those who liked the post🤗...
I'm not motivated enough to pen any lines...although I'm loving Sant Kabir's quotes right now which applies aptly in present scenario.
Riya loved your infinite loop mentioned in yesterday's Redux...I have replied to some writers after pg 80... please check if feasible.
Thanks to all who share their lovely and insightful thoughts here.😊
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYKxJUTD208[/YOUTUBE]

jagjit sing and sant kabir ke dohe😊.. couldnot have asked for anything better after the dreary dream sequence...sometimes I wonder are we investing our efforts on smokescreens?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people! :)


Was not planning to write anything today - especially after the heated discussion on Arnav's ILU on REDUX yesterday. Nevertheless just putting in some quick points across :

1) Arnav's ILU - I know that many are still not satisfied with it - but I am very happy with it! Yes indeed it worked out completely in sync with the way the story is moving. Arnav was at gunpoint - and he needed to let his heart out to Khushi and he did. Yes - one may ask why now!? Because when death faces you in the eye - every emotion is hightened and at that moment he did say the words to her for he did not know what future held for him. Keep yourself in Arnav's place and you will understand. His expressions gave out his feelings. And no he could not cry for he is not weak - he choses not to be weak and especially not in front of the kidnappers. Look at the scene again and look at his eyes and you will see how much it hurt him to believe that he may not see the next day. He fought he struggled and then did the words come out.

Arnav never fell out of love from Khushi - hence when today he was facing death - he chose to say what he felt. Like Nia said yesterday - it was the amalgamation of Arnav with ASR and rightly so.

2) The dream sequence : Nah! It was BS and SI for me - playing around! Khushi has wild imaginations agreed but nevertheless - she has always imagined ASR as Arnav not as BS. And it was so much BS in that scene so did not gel with me.

3) Khushi's realization : The ILU played exactly like I had hoped it would. First the happiness - then the confusion and then the sadness. ILU was the biggest hint (even if Arnav did not mean it as a hint) because for all Khushi has gone through it is difficult for her to believe that Arnav actually loves her.

4) Nani - Akash and Payal - whatever!

5) Police station - could not help laughing!

I know everyone is disappointed with the ILU, but for me Arnav and Khushi are above ILU. They have already confessed zillion of times and ILU is not how I want their confession to happen. It should be with beautiful words - which have never been spoken - but felt - I am keeping my fingers crossed for it - for I loved this ILU and I know I will love the actual confession as well! :)

Love :)

P.S : I was not angry yesterday but I was upset that everyone was giving up on the actual confession. I would stay away from REDUX if my views and thoughts hurts someone or sound harsh.




What the?

I just have this reaction for your post. Buckle up and get ready for next redux post!😡
I always tell you this, redux is not complete without your analysis. There are lot of people who love your POV and wait for your post till midnight. You are disappointing them?

Disagreement, fights, arguments wasn't it the basic funda of redux. If everyone is saying the samething whats the point. Ask @tanthya I always something or the other to contradict her! We are like ASR Vs Shyam😉 Still I am on redux. Infact I love redux for that you can have dialognally opposite views and still can co exist in redux. 👏

So, my little star of Redux, Come back. ❤️. We all love love love to read your post. And miss it.
Edited by sree07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: --Anna--

1) Arnav's ILU - I know that many are still not satisfied with it - but I am very happy with it! Yes indeed it worked out completely in sync with the way the story is moving. Arnav was at gunpoint - and he needed to let his heart out to Khushi and he did. Yes - one may ask why now!? Because when death faces you in the eye - every emotion is hightened and at that moment he did say the words to her for he did not know what future held for him. Keep yourself in Arnav's place and you will understand. His expressions gave out his feelings. And no he could not cry for he is not weak - he choses not to be weak and especially not in front of the kidnappers. Look at the scene again and look at his eyes and you will see how much it hurt him to believe that he may not see the next day. He fought he struggled and then did the words come out.
Anna as I mentioned my reaction to yesterday's epi was a bit indifferent...I did not feel like writing still ended up writing a poem of course not on Arnav-Khushi's ILU moment (though it was not what I would expect from Arnav and Khushi but hoping the PH would justify their act )... yet IMO it was a decisive moment for Arnav to say what he said...& Khushi seems to have caught up on the hint too...

Apart from that under stress or life threatening scenario...an individual can do the unexpected so Arnav saying ILU may not be out of character...but will keep my expectations low from now on...

Arnav never fell out of love from Khushi - hence when today he was facing death - he chose to say what he felt. Like Nia said yesterday - it was the amalgamation of Arnav with ASR and rightly so.

2) The dream sequence : Nah! It was BS and SI for me - playing around! Khushi has wild imaginations agreed but nevertheless - she has always imagined ASR as Arnav not as BS. And it was so much BS in that scene so did not gel with me.
This did not work for me either!
3) Khushi's realization : The ILU played exactly like I had hoped it would. First the happiness - then the confusion and then the sadness. ILU was the biggest hint (even if Arnav did not mean it as a hint) because for all Khushi has gone through it is difficult for her to believe that Arnav actually loves her.
Agreed!
P.S : I was not angry yesterday but I was upset that everyone was giving up on the actual confession. I would stay away from REDUX if my views and thoughts hurts someone or sound harsh.
I do not think anyone is hurt with what you said...everyone is entitled to their view of IPK and characters...but many will be disappointed with what's shown/not shown...we all have sketched a version of IPK which might be the reason for your individual responses. Keep writing !🤗
Also Like you, I too would wait for the leads to come face to face and then come to terms with what they feel for each other...this matter does not end here...

I'm in green😊
Edited by shreya_l - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45
yes the dream sequence was not ASR. his expressions were all wrong and his demeanor was totally opposite...but then I realized that it was KKG's dream sequence...not reality so she is viewing ASR as she would want ...the run of ASR after KKG was so fake...:D i laughed and said 'oh god now that is unbelievable' but then i rewind it and saw it again and realized that KKG being KKG can go on and on with her filmy stance towards this romance... and she does realize her folly doesnt she? she comes back to reality and starts questioning... she Knows that sth is a miss here... she is on the right track...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: sree07


What the?

I just have this reaction for your post. Buckle up and get ready for next redux post!😡
I always tell you this, redux is not complete without your analysis. There are lot of people who love your POV and wait for your post till midnight. You are disappointing them?

Disagreement, fights, arguments wasn't it the basic funda of redux. If everyone is saying the samething whats the point. Ask @tanthya I always something or the other to contradict her! We are like ASR Vs Shyam😉 Still I am on redux. Infact I love redux for that you can have dialognally opposite views and still can co exist in redux. 👏

So, my little star of Redux, Come back. ❤️. We all love love love to read your post. And miss it.

Sree 🤗 Exactly we had a long discussion on Shyam and we both agreed to disagree...no hard feelings 😆
Anna Keep writing Sree is right...we all love to read your insights😊!
Edited by shreya_l - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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An average episode...sadly PH proved my fear right today...Khushi dreaming of Arnav as lover boy- uske character ki toh vaat lag gayi.
Yesterday while I understood the disappointment of Tanthya and Doods, I liked his confession. I can somehow understand the pressure PH is under but more on that at the end.
I did feel Arnav wanted to give everyone what he believed he owed them since his future seems unsure and more than anything he believed Khushi deserved to know his heart and so he confessed. In some ways it also a way to lighten his heart since he has always felt guilty for mistreating Khushi despite believing she deserves it. He probably also wanted to a response from her- something that would tell him that she felt the same. I am not sure if he was able to decode Khushi's tears and silence today, he seemed a little disappointed. Did he still believe that Khushi does not love him and has some residual feelings for Shyam? Did he hate his weakness to come out and say it out loud and not hear anything back? Did he regret that he had to confess the way he did under the circumstances and he would probably never see her agin? I was left confused even more since the words "Kyun dard itna.." played in BG when the camera zoomed in on his face. I was also right in my assumption that Khushi will find his behaviour odd and go into detective mode. I loved the flashbacks today, instinctively Khushi would be reminded of all the times that Arnav threw a clue about his feelings her way and she missed them. I was hoping that she would start to clue in now and that would give her an insight into Arnav's hot and cold behaviour thus taking the story forward.
That expectation stayed until we started having the pearl necklace sequence and running around the pool...what was that? It seemed too cheesy and definately something targeted at fangirls.That was the Satyanash moment for me.So much potential in the story and we end up seeing pre-adolescent version of romance. Someone kill me!
Now coming back to PH- These guys really seem to have a bad string of luck. Thier show balances itself on the shoulders of three characters- Arnav, Khushi and Anjali and all three actors that play these characters have either signed up for other projects or are threatening to leave (assuming rumours are true). Infact this is the only time that I have heard a PH dealing with a crisis like this. If an actor had pulled something similar on balaji productions, he would have commited professional suicide. I commend the PH for trying to do right by the actor and get some free moolah in the deal but unfortunately thier largese/adjustment seems to have come back to bite them.
Unlike other shows this is a love story and not a family drama so the PH did not flesh out other characters as much and with good reason. Now they are left scrambling , trying to figure how to proceed while the channel is playing the TRP game with them.To top it all, media and certain other PH and 4 lions (read- Barun's movie PH) have kept the uncertainty on the sets in media to create free publicity and paranoia. However this has hurt the show more than anything, any interview from Barun has been dissected minutely and masses with that information have reacted on it. Maybe this will tell the actors the price of fame and the virtue of keeping quiet and letting the storm blow over.
So what does PH do now-
1) Gracefully end the show but why would they...they can still milk this cow. Besides what is the point of letting 11 months of work go down the drain.
2) Introduce the possibility of replacing the actors playing the characters if need occurs, however it would not work since they spent last 11 months building the relationship between the actor and character so much that masses tend to see them as one. It will be hard to accept an another actor playing any of 3 main roles. Barun was right when he said that anybody could play Arnav since the true hero of story is Arnav the character and not Barun. But that ship has sailed...no one will be accepted as Arnav now. Masses see Barun more as Arnav than his real life persona.
3) Introduce new character- They tried this but it did not work partly because I think that they went OTT with the characters. Introducing a business rival, someone from Khushi's past etc would have probably worked better...just saying! On the other hand you have to start to flesh out a new character and give him time to establish rapport with masses and with current hysteria, no one wants to give a new character a chance...everyone is focused on how long Barun will stick it out.
4) Introduce parallel romance track- Payash will not work since thier characters have not been set that way. They have been set as insipid couple. That leaves Anjali and I strongly believe there is immense potential there. IPKKND is also the story of Raizada siblings. But for that to happen Shyam has to be kicked out and a new heart-throb has to be introduced who deals with Anjali's eccentricities and fears. Given time we might see arshi like popularity for the new couple too but then time is exactly what PH does not have. We might still come back to this at some point.
4) Stick with thier story and hope everything works out despite popular opinions and falling TRPS.. They are a small PH and the financial risk they bear is too big to ignore. They need to succeed to survive and for that they need the show to survive but for that to happen, they need TRP and for that they need fangurls who are demanding romance so we end up with ridiculous version of story which puts off more mature demographic. This is what I believe PH has decided to do under duress much to my disappointment.
But the fact remains that PH are in bad place and they truly do not have many options until the hysteria dies.
Edited by dramacrazy12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: sunshine99

jagjit sing and sant kabir ke dohe😊.. couldnot have asked for anything better after the dreary dream sequence...sometimes I wonder are we investing our efforts on smokescreens?

Sunshine 🤗 my respite too. What is the main purpose here...enjoying the story right...if at any time you or I feel that it is not fulfilling that need...it is better to detach and move to greener pastures...IPK becomes dispensable...I can go back to music/reading or some other hobby... sky is the limit😛 so no worries...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

An average episode...sadly PH proved my fear right today...Khushi dreaming of Arnav as lover boy- uske character ki toh vaat lag gayi.

Yesterday while I understood the disappointment of Tanthya and Doods, I liked his confession. I can somehow understand the pressure PH is under but more on that at the end.
I did feel Arnav wanted to give everyone what he believed he owed them since his future seems unsure and more than anything he believed Khushi deserved to know his heart and so he confessed. In some ways it also a way to lighten his heart since he has always felt guilty for mistreating Khushi despite believing she deserves it. He probably also wanted to a response from her- something that would tell him that she felt the same. I am not sure if he was able to decode Khushi's tears and silence today, he seemed a little disappointed.I was also right in my assumption that Khushi will find his behaviour odd and go into detective mode. I loved the flashbacks today, instinctively Khushi would be reminded of all the times that Arnav threw a clue about his feelings her way and she missed them. I was hoping that she would start to clue in now and that would give her an insight into Arnav's hot and cold behaviour thus taking the story forward.
That expectation stayed until we started having the pearl necklace sequence and running around the pool...what was that? It seemed too cheesy and definately something targeted at fangirls.That was the Satyanash moment for me.So much potential in the story and we end up seeing pre-adolescent version of romance. Someone kill me!
Now coming back to PH- These guys really seem to have a bad string of luck. Thier show balances itself on the shoulders of three characters- Arnav, Khushi and Anjali and all three actors that play these characters have either signed up for other projects or are threatening to leave (assuming rumours are true). Infact this is the only time that I have heard a PH dealing with a crisis like this. Unlike other shows this is a love story and not a family drama so the PH did not flesh out other characters as much. Now they are left scrambling , trying to figure how to proceed while the channel is playing the TRP game with them.To top it all, media and certain other PH and 4 lions (read- Barun's movie PH) have kept the uncertainty on the sets in media to create free publicity and paranoia. However this has hurt the show more than anything, any interview from Barun has been dissected minutely and masses with that information have reacted on it. Maybe this will tell the actors the price of fame and the virtue of keeping quiet and letting the storm blow over.
So what does PH do now-
1) Gracefully end the show but why would they...they can still milk this cow.
2) Introduce the possibility of replacing the actors playing the characters if need occurs, however it would not work since they spent last 11 months building the relationship between the actor and character so much that masses tend to see them as one. It will be hard to accept an another actor playing any of 3 main roles.
3) Introduce new character- They tried this but it did not work partly because I think that they went OTT with the characters. Introducing a business rival, someone from Khushi's past etc would have probably worked better...just saying! On the other hand you have to start to flesh out a new character and give him time to establish rapport with masses and with current hysteria, no one wants to give a new character a chance...everyone is focused on how long Barun will stick it out.
4) Introduce parallel romance track- Payash will not work since thier characters have not been set that way. That leaves Anjali and I strongly believe there is immense potential there. IPKKND is also the story of Raizada siblings. But for that to happen Shyam has to be kicked out and a new heart-throb has to be introduced who deals with Anjali's eccentricities. We might still come back to this at some point.
4) Stick with thier story and hope everything works out... but they need TRP and for that they need fangurls who are demanding romance so we end up with ridiculous version of story which puts off more mature demographic. This is what I believe PH has decided to do much to my disappointment.
But the fact remains that PH are in bad place and they truly do not have many options until the hysteria dies.

👏 👏 well said exactly what i was thinking..Loved Your points ..😃,lets See How Cv's trick worked to gain TRP's next week ..if they are sucess at their stunt ,i am ok atelast they got sucess at some place 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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AP lovely song.
Sunshine Lovely song you have quoted.
Omoraboti Nice to read your thoughts on yesterday's and today's epi.
Vimmiya tryst with destiny for Arnav and Khushi seems so...
Payasa Many are counting on that scenario... may be it will tie up with his repentance...Khushi is selfless when it comes to others wouldn't the feeling be heightened when it comes to love...
May be I'm wrong but Khushi was running behind Arnav to make him listen...Arnav did offer her to prove her side of story but that time he was leaving...so time factor became a problem...probably that is why she feels he did not give her a chance...
Peppygeek & lovely Agreed with both of you no sugar coated Arnav😡...premarriage ASR works best!😃
Sara.Khan Welcome & enjoy ur stay!😊
Vasi People are taking about Arnav in pain so hopefully the TRP issue might sort in due time but more imp will be how to salvage the characters and story...
I'll be back after few hours 😊everyone!
Edited by shreya_l - 13 years ago

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