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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: tanthya




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I have got few PM's asking expressing their discontentment about the lack of continuity and also the character butchering of Khushi ...I have also read few posts which subscribes to the same and have replied to the same ...I am putting forth all those various replies here ..I hope it answers your queries..If not feel free to question

First ... The complaint about continuity ...Monday she was aloof, Tuesday she was all over him , annoying him demeaning herself , her dignity etc etc...Lets take a look again at the picture ..To Know the truth and to get out of the house ..Khushi was completely engaged in this maneuver when she was outwitted and forced to stay back , All the weapons she had deployed backfired, Arnav did not get irritated enough to throw her out..soon her cache of weapons ran dry and she found herself with no weapon to attack Arnav, she retreated, keeping quiet , lying low.. that she was not defeated and did not give up can be gauged from the fact that she did not give up on her Dabba Service ..She grew quiet cos she had run out of ideas Then on Tuesday, Dame luck was on her side and she sent Anjali who offered a new weapon at Khushi's disposal..Khushi was ecstatic...True to her impulsive nature, She enthusiastically begins to test this weapon on Arnav and to her utter astonishment and delight Arnav begins to react ... Overcome with her success, she goes full throttle on him, unmindful f the consequence, not realizing the fall out...her mission is to get out and this weapon will ensure that...This is her only thought...she has not yet realized the impact this action of hers will have on both the family ...So do we get continuity here .. Yes.. The mission to get out is the continuity and that is what we are seeing ... Has Khushi been compromised...I do not think so.. From the first we haev alwasy noticed that Khushi is the type that shoots first and asks questions later.. She suddenly got the idea of becoming a halwai and undertook that business with no foresight, or the proper steps to make it successful .. she had a idea and implemented it without thinking it through... The same thing happened with the Nainital trip when she happily emptied the fuel tank of Arnav's vehicle , which could have landed Arnav in jeopardy and earned his company losses , She was the same when she gate crashed and did her desi Girl song, she was the same when she intruded into a conference to promote Lavanya's virtues ..what has changed now ??
Khushi's character remains the same what has changed is Arnav's reaction and that induces us into thinking that Khushi has changed and is falling..



Has the track gone off course ?? Of-course not ... The progression is on track ..have we forgotten the Ghee Spoon promo ...Khushi had said that when Ghee cannot be extracted in a straight way, then it has to be pulled out in a devious manner...Isn't that what is happening now ... the truth is being extracted in a devious manner using Arnav's weakness ..The only hitch is in the way it is being narrated..they are complicating a straightforward story telling with unnecessary comedy ...The way it is being presented seems to be going right above the head of the viewer's and that need to be corrected

👏👏👏👏👏 Superb insight Tants & a very gm to u, hv a fab day...
Edited by IPKKNDFAN29 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Well Just read Tanthya and Doods post...will take much time to read others as well...
🤗 you gals are awesome really..when I initially watched the episode..I was like what are they doing to khushi..OMG..then after reading your posts..I must say ..I felt for that poor girl so much..yes indeed they cud hav shown execution in better way..but the way you guys hav put khushi's plight has really made me understand her more.. and to be honest I have been looking this story from Arnav'sPOV for so long...but seriously this girl all just wanted was to get love from man she loved..and evrytime she dreams of getting it..her heart is brutally crushed..😭 ..this is so painful love story...hope they have a happy ending...
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Sathya, Doodhs and Pam! 🤗 Loved your analysis as usual! 👏👏 And more than that I loved how all 3 of you looked at it from Khushi's POV because I personally get so irritated by her that I do not. However - even though I agree with you all that it is Khushi's survival instinct at work now and she needs to irritate him (which I am in favor) of - I really do not like the treatment it has been given.


Thank You Anna😃🤗

Sathya - like you said :
Her every acts is actually making her morally weak in comparison to Arnav Singh Raizada who is putting up with her antics with great fortitude ,patience and admirable restraint ...Revive the Khushi Kumari Gupta who cared for the Rakhshas even when he was at his worst, harshest ...The girl whose will got dented now and then but was not broken, the girl who fought back without wounding others ...

This is not the Khushi I knew! She should fight back - definitely YES - but not this way! Otherwise there is going to be no difference between her and Arnav. By doing this - I know she is digging her own grave for future repentance - however - why do what Arnav does!? She was the compassionate girl - the girl who sees good in everything and everyone - the girl who would not hurt anyone even unknowingly and today she is. I understand she is hurt - her hopes and dreams have been shattered - but she also knows that when Arnav is angry - he forgoes everything - and using food for this was a very lame move. Arnav skipped Breakfast because she gave her "hum chahte hai aap sab acha khae" and he skipped lunch because she used lunch to get back at him. And if he faints tomorrow - it will be because of her - that is NOT the Khushi I knew. And the barging into the meeting did not gel with me at all!


This is Khushi,Anna..the one who is so caught up in her own antics that she fails to see the cons of her actions

Coming to Arnav - his character growth astonishes me! What patience man! Is he the same Arnav Singh Raizada who could not stand her so many times in his house or in office and thrown her out!? I am surprised! How much must he love her to not give it back to her and just take in whatever she is dishing out at him! If I have to believe this is his way of giving in to his guilt and regret of all that he has done with her. He knows that she is hurt and she is doing it all for hurting her. But I have to applaud him for the patience that he has shown! Fabulous! 👏👏


I have to differ here, Arnav is a patient man , has always been so..His intolerance level was high regards Khushi bec she stirred something in him , played with his self control and this lead to his explosion so that he could keep her away from his vicinity ...Khushi has been the impatient one , short tempered
The small tika scene - when I watched it - even I remembered the judaai scene - 😆 - nevertheless it was good because that very brief moment Arnav and Khushi shared something very intimate and the confusion in both of them was evident. And Barun was fab in that scene! ⭐️ And I loved how you explained it in with comparison with Anjali's tika scene. 👏
I will not talk about Ms. B and Mr. A - because they failed to impress me! I am hoping to see a better Arnav bhaiyya and Ms. B chemistry and then will I pass a judgement on them.
And I come to my question of the day - Where is SHYAM JHA!?? He is supposed to be the 2nd lead - even of villian - 3 days has passed in the show and he is missing in action!? WTH!? 😡


If Shyam comes then the track has to shift to his advances, Khushi's growing fear, leading to a backlash .. ..That backlash has to elad to a resolution which will bring this to an end ..without closing the loops ...So Shyam track will not be dealt head on..but he will come and go..until the subplots begin to close ..




In Blue !!


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: tanthya




EDITED ;

I have got few PM's asking expressing their discontentment about the lack of continuity and also the character butchering of Khushi ...I have also read few posts which subscribes to the same and have replied to the same ...I am putting forth all those various replies here ..I hope it answers your queries..If not feel free to question

First ... The complaint about continuity ...Monday she was aloof, Tuesday she was all over him , annoying him demeaning herself , her dignity etc etc...Lets take a look again at the picture ..To Know the truth and to get out of the house ..Khushi was completely engaged in this maneuver when she was outwitted and forced to stay back , All the weapons she had deployed backfired, Arnav did not get irritated enough to throw her out..soon her cache of weapons ran dry and she found herself with no weapon to attack Arnav, she retreated, keeping quiet , lying low.. that she was not defeated and did not give up can be gauged from the fact that she did not give up on her Dabba Service ..She grew quiet cos she had run out of ideas Then on Tuesday, Dame luck was on her side and she sent Anjali who offered a new weapon at Khushi's disposal..Khushi was ecstatic...True to her impulsive nature, She enthusiastically begins to test this weapon on Arnav and to her utter astonishment and delight Arnav begins to react ... Overcome with her success, she goes full throttle on him, unmindful f the consequence, not realizing the fall out...her mission is to get out and this weapon will ensure that...This is her only thought...she has not yet realized the impact this action of hers will have on both the family ...So do we get continuity here .. Yes.. The mission to get out is the continuity and that is what we are seeing ... Has Khushi been compromised...I do not think so.. From the first we haev alwasy noticed that Khushi is the type that shoots first and asks questions later.. She suddenly got the idea of becoming a halwai and undertook that business with no foresight, or the proper steps to make it successful .. she had a idea and implemented it without thinking it through... The same thing happened with the Nainital trip when she happily emptied the fuel tank of Arnav's vehicle , which could have landed Arnav in jeopardy and earned his company losses , She was the same when she gate crashed and did her desi Girl song, she was the same when she intruded into a conference to promote Lavanya's virtues ..what has changed now ??
Khushi's character remains the same what has changed is Arnav's reaction and that induces us into thinking that Khushi has changed and is falling..



Has the track gone off course ?? Of-course not ... The progression is on track ..have we forgotten the Ghee Spoon promo ...Khushi had said that when Ghee cannot be extracted in a straight way, then it has to be pulled out in a devious manner...Isn't that what is happening now ... the truth is being extracted in a devious manner using Arnav's weakness ..The only hitch is in the way it is being narrated..they are complicating a straightforward story telling with unnecessary comedy ...The way it is being presented seems to be going right above the head of the viewer's and that need to be corrected

Sathya excellent post! I had the same thoughts yesterday about Khushi, this is nothing new with her. This is the same Khushi who ruined Arnav's shoes, the phone calls, the gas tank scene. Khushi has remained consistent character wise, the problem is the CVs sometimes take things too far and the message gets lost.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


@bold black: I totally agree on his point...the CV's have lacked here and they need to show her aware and worried about Shyam. She is a female and female instincts should raise all those red flags as soon as he comes near.

If you ask my personal opinion, it is Shyam who is the bigger threat but from khushi POV , why is only shyam a threat, why is Arnav not a threat?

We know Arnav is good but suppose he was portrayed bad, based on his majority of actions, as seen by Khushi till date, would you still call him good? I will not...Arnav has time and again threatened her for marriage, payash and he is still doing it.

I feel Khushi is just not aware of Shyam's intentions, it has not registered in her mind yet. (don't ask me why or how or may be it is just intentional on CV's part ) but she is not thinking about it, she will soon...we will just have to wait and see.

As I see the show now, I feel from her POV only Arnav is a threat whether this will change tomm I do not know.

Khushi is the one who instigates Arnav. If Khushi ignores Arnav then he lets her be (in that sense he isn't much of an opponent)...whereas Shyam do not wait for her signal to make a move, he does whenever there is an opportunity...hence the urgency to act about it...
IMO it is impossible for Khushi to NOT know Shyam's intention...the way he touches her, his innenduos doesn't left much to the imigination
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Sathya, Doodhs and Pam! 🤗 Loved your analysis as usual! 👏👏 And more than that I loved how all 3 of you looked at it from Khushi's POV because I personally get so irritated by her that I do not. However - even though I agree with you all that it is Khushi's survival instinct at work now and she needs to irritate him (which I am in favor) of - I really do not like the treatment it has been given.

Sathya - like you said :
Her every acts is actually making her morally weak in comparison to Arnav Singh Raizada who is putting up with her antics with great fortitude ,patience and admirable restraint ...Revive the Khushi Kumari Gupta who cared for the Rakhshas even when he was at his worst, harshest ...The girl whose will got dented now and then but was not broken, the girl who fought back without wounding others ...
This is not the Khushi I knew! She should fight back - definitely YES - but not this way! Otherwise there is going to be no difference between her and Arnav. By doing this - I know she is digging her own grave for future repentance - however - why do what Arnav does!? She was the compassionate girl - the girl who sees good in everything and everyone - the girl who would not hurt anyone even unknowingly and today she is. I understand she is hurt - her hopes and dreams have been shattered - but she also knows that when Arnav is angry - he forgoes everything - and using food for this was a very lame move. Arnav skipped Breakfast because she gave her "hum chahte hai aap sab acha khae" and he skipped lunch because she used lunch to get back at him. And if he faints tomorrow - it will be because of her - that is NOT the Khushi I knew. And the barging into the meeting did not gel with me at all!
Coming to Arnav - his character growth astonishes me! What patience man! Is he the same Arnav Singh Raizada who could not stand her so many times in his house or in office and thrown her out!? I am surprised! How much must he love her to not give it back to her and just take in whatever she is dishing out at him! If I have to believe this is his way of giving in to his guilt and regret of all that he has done with her. He knows that she is hurt and she is doing it all for hurting her. But I have to applaud him for the patience that he has shown! Fabulous! 👏👏
The small tika scene - when I watched it - even I remembered the judaai scene - 😆 - nevertheless it was good because that very brief moment Arnav and Khushi shared something very intimate and the confusion in both of them was evident. And Barun was fab in that scene! ⭐️ And I loved how you explained it in with comparison with Anjali's tika scene. 👏
I will not talk about Ms. B and Mr. A - because they failed to impress me! I am hoping to see a better Arnav bhaiyya and Ms. B chemistry and then will I pass a judgement on them.
And I come to my question of the day - Where is SHYAM JHA!?? He is supposed to be the 2nd lead - even of villian - 3 days has passed in the show and he is missing in action!? WTH!? 😡

Hey dear... we both are on same front coz we often are able to see arnav'pov in this story.. when I read tanthya and doods analysis..I seem to feel more for khushi but why I am nt feeling fr her when I see the show that is the main question..creatives have failed to show that..yes indeed girl is broken..man she loves has broken her heart three times..but why I am not getting to feel her pain..her desire to be loved by this man ..her hesitation in showing her love just for fear of rejection again... and yes the question is where is shyam Jha..he definately takes story forward here..
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: RiyaDutta

Tanths 🤗🤗🤗that was a brilliant and fantastic analysis👏...frankly for me it was way better than today's episode...especially ur thoughts on Khushi about her past and the present that she wants to escape from!!👍🏼!😃


I felt like killing myself or better the CVs for making my go through that torture today...I don't feel this is the show I fell in love with... This is not what I signed for!!!


Cummon CVs where did our old sensible, spirited and caring Khushi go??? This girl who behaves like a 6yr old child-bride is not the Khushi whom we all adore...frankly m not able to relate to her as well...to say m DISAPPOINTED today is an understatement!!!

CVs so today u made her look like a brain-less kid just to show her repenting in tomorrow's episode? Is that it?

If that's the case then we get ur point...but my ques here is what is valid reason for this????

Is there any meaningful reason behind all these or are u people out of fresh, sensible and meaningful ideas???? 😕

If by doing all these u want to show us that it's high time for Khushi to learn the consequences of her actions🤔 then my confusion is can't u people have handled this in a better way? Why make her look foolish!!👎🏼

Frankly I have never seen any one barging into the office and ruining an important conference meeting...it just not done...What abt normal human curtsey/mannerism of not interrupting when serious business going on in ofc?


I always feel the husband-wife fights should stay behind the closed door of their bedrooms...coz its a private affair..then why is Khushi mocking her hubby like this publicly??? She wants to irritate him...FINE but do that privately not publicly!!!


I really applaud Arnav's patience today for tolerating her...he really does love her!!!!

The only one thing that I liked today was the tika waala scene😳...loved it...especially Arnav's shocked murmur "Khushi"...it was not acting as both were totally caught in the moment!!!😍


*sighs* *deep breathe in and out*

Sorry for the rant guys but me so frustrated here😳😆...I guess m done with my ranting 😆

Extremely sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings..but I really needed to get this off my chest!!!!😳

😆😆 And to think I was frustrated yesterday! 😆
Kal maine apni bhadaad nikali and aaj u did it! Wah Wah Wag!! Agree with you on each and every word Riya - what to do - however much I understand the whole thing - I am sooo done with this comedy and the way it is executed!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Ankifan

Things i liked


1. Arnav changed from that awful shirt to white.
2. Him saying Kushi when she puts the tikha , that small murmur in his husky voice and how he showed his heart racing at that moment with his action. Fab Barun👏
3. I have always loved and seen Arnav's pain, guilt, love, care, honesty, and now i am glad he even showed his patience, tolerance, ability to listen when required and snap off when not, dignity.
4. Arnav rubbing away that tikha, she does need to earn him back with love and respect, that day he shall not dismiss it this way. Good touch CVs.
4. Barun's acting
5. Deepali's acting.
6. Mami, i can tolerate her anyday, she atleast doesnt make me cringe.

Things i disliked:

1. I do not wanto talk about her at all.
2. Nani, at your age you should know when to encourage someone and when not to.
3. A diabetic patient leaves home without eating, and the least Nani does is laugh, he he ha ha, im giving exercise to my jaw muscles..

Random thought's:

1. What was the need of calling Ms. B dint we have a physically grown 9 yr annoying kid in RM already??
2. Someone please feed the hungry dogs at AR some food.
3. Ms. B calling Arnav as Arnav bhaiya, hmm can i please expect some selfless love from this kid towards him atleast for a day??
4. Can Arnav please not take favor from anyone when his health takes a toll. This is not the first time, he seems to have none who care for him, the dude really needs to have a control over his emotions , he needs to look after himself further.
Can this act enlighten him that his life needs to be taken care of by himself??

I liked the Tikha scene coz of Arnav's reaction's 😃

Edit: I hope all the South East Asian and South Indian specially Indonesian people are safe..take care guys 🤗 God bless!!

Fabs Divya! Clap Agree on every word! 😉 And you know that! 😆
Edited by --Anna-- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Well Just read Tanthya and Doods post...will take much time to read others as well...

🤗 you gals are awesome really..when I initially watched the episode..I was like what are they doing to khushi..OMG..then after reading your posts..I must say ..I felt for that poor girl so much..yes indeed they cud hav shown execution in better way..but the way you guys hav put khushi's plight has really made me understand her more.. and to be honest I have been looking this story from Arnav'sPOV for so long...but seriously this girl all just wanted was to get love from man she loved..and evrytime she dreams of getting it..her heart is brutally crushed..😭 ..this is so painful love story...hope they have a happy ending...



Thank You,riti 🤗..

That has been the error everybody have been committing IMO..they are looking through Arnav's lens and not from Khushi's POV or from the track perspective ...


Let them have a beginning first and then we will see about the ending 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Hey dear... we both are on same front coz we often are able to see arnav'pov in this story.. when I read tanthya and doods analysis..I seem to feel more for khushi but why I am nt feeling fr her when I see the show that is the main question..creatives have failed to show that..yes indeed girl is broken..man she loves has broken her heart three times..but why I am not getting to feel her pain..her desire to be loved by this man ..her hesitation in showing her love just for fear of rejection again... and yes the question is where is shyam Jha..he definately takes story forward here..



Here is where I feel the actor lets us down bec she is unable to bring the conflicted Khushi with the ease Barun portrays the conflicted Arnav 😊

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