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serialjunkie thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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another suggestion i have is watermark your post and post the text as an image. then the watermark + image need to be copied.
i know, what a hassle. but if you are particularly upset about some work you realy care to protect, this might be worth the extra effort.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5QtGFwc_AI&feature=youtu.be[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Vidhya,
I dont have much of a constructive solution to offer as I am as illitrate as they come re computers.
I did mention in Munchy's thread that it would be good for the forum 'gaurdians' to invest in a tiny bit of security...the watermark idea is a god place to start...(me thinks)
As I already have mentioned else where once you venture to put a stroke anywhere on the net..given the nature of this media that stroke is completely lost open to appropriation or oblivity...
it is a stroke of stupdity when the 'plageriser' chooses to display thier stolen item on the same platform...these are I would say the few who are not just stupid but overcnfident...the ones to be afraid of are the stelthier silent ones...who for one will not be discvered and you might not find that your work is stolen till much later when it is too late...
So i would say the onus is not on keeping those who steel at bay but actually securing your work, and the forum needs to help there.
I am also aware that anything put enugh effort can be broken thru, but the more the effort, the more you can wean out the ones who do it just because they can...and also the harder it gets you rule out the less savvy...
So now we come to the hard core...who see a good thing and will get their hands on it come hell or high water...for your goods to be that coveted you have to be pretty bloody good...and there are a handfull of writers here who are...and might eventually get to publishing for those wirters and you know who you are I would suggest looking into copy right...asap...b4 this whole issue comes back to bite...you dont want to play victim you wanna get even or better still you wanna play the upper hand...
Most of all Vidhya I agree its a lose lose situation so lets all get over the name calling and venting and try and find a salution (as iron clad as posibble)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

another suggestion i have is watermark your post and post the text as an image. then the watermark + image need to be copied.
i know, what a hassle. but if you are particularly upset about some work you realy care to protect, this might be worth the extra effort.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5QtGFwc_AI&feature=youtu.be[/YOUTUBE]


Yep..good idea. Thanks!
madmaxine thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: tangam

Hi Vidhya,

I dont have much of a constructive solution to offer as I am as illitrate as they come re computers.
I did mention in Munchy's thread that it would be good for the forum 'gaurdians' to invest in a tiny bit of security...the watermark idea is a god place to start...(me thinks)
As I already have mentioned else where once you venture to put a stroke anywhere on the net..given the nature of this media that stroke is completely lost open to appropriation or oblivity...
it is a stroke of stupdity when the 'plageriser' chooses to display thier stolen item on the same platform...these are I would say the few who are not just stupid but overcnfident...the ones to be afraid of are the stelthier silent ones...who for one will not be discvered and you might not find that your work is stolen till much later when it is too late...
So i would say the onus is not on keeping those who steel at bay but actually securing your work, and the forum needs to help there.
I am also aware that anything put enugh effort can be broken thru, but the more the effort, the more you can wean out the ones who do it just because they can...and also the harder it gets you rule out the less savvy...
So now we come to the hard core...who see a good thing and will get their hands on it come hell or high water...for your goods to be that coveted you have to be pretty bloody good...and there are a handfull of writers here who are...and might eventually get to publishing for those wirters and you know who you are I would suggest looking into copy right...asap...b4 this whole issue comes back to bite...you dont want to play victim you wanna get even or better still you wanna play the upper hand...
Most of all Vidhya I agree its a lose lose situation so lets all get over the name calling and venting and try and find a salution (as iron clad as posibble)


@ bold: Yes. Absolutely. No point in all the abusing and getting upset. Time to find a solution, if one exists.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Vidhya, I read the solutions before me. All of them are possible. But I feel all of them are penalizing the writers more than the people who are resorting to the crimes actually. The writers have to spend more time and energy trying to figure ways to protect their work than sit back, relax and let their creative juices flow. So, two suggestions from my side.

1. Whenever some work of art is being posted, there should be a mechanism in place to check it against at least 2 weeks worth of old posts and then post it. Like the plagiarism capture soft-wares that we have in academia.

2. The above obviously requires very high technology and a large scale. So, the only other alternative is tough, very very tough enforcement. We publicize the rules very well first. make it a sticky on the Page 1 and so on. But then if anybody is caught doing that, there can be no second chances. this can only be avoided if people have granted their permission via PMs or emails to use their stuff.


There can be place for subjective judgement in some cases, but then for that there has to be a collection of people who can be on a rotational position to have an explanation session held for the person who has allegedly plagiarised stuff, knowingly or unknowingly.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#16
Guys I think I hv a feasible solution. Publicly shaming them! By these methods below,
1. Everyone replying to the post "this is not your work/ shame on you for copying"
2. Asking mods to edit the copy-ers posts letting people know tt so and so plagiarized so and so's work? (not sure if this is possible)
3. Spreading the shame across all sites so these people cannot escape.

Edited by universe_naf - 13 years ago
madmaxine thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: wesha

Vidhya, I read the solutions before me. All of them are possible. But I feel all of them are penalizing the writers more than the people who are resorting to the crimes actually. The writers have to spend more time and energy trying to figure ways to protect their work than sit back, relax and let their creative juices flow. So, two suggestions from my side.


1. Whenever some work of art is being posted, there should be a mechanism in place to check it against at least 2 weeks worth of old posts and then post it. Like the plagiarism capture soft-wares that we have in academia.

2. The above obviously requires very high technology and a large scale. So, the only other alternative is tough, very very tough enforcement. We publicize the rules very well first. make it a sticky on the Page 1 and so on. But then if anybody is caught doing that, there can be no second chances. this can only be avoided if people have granted their permission via PMs or emails to use their stuff.


There can be place for subjective judgement in some cases, but then for that there has to be a collection of people who can be on a rotational position to have an explanation session held for the person who has allegedly plagiarised stuff, knowingly or unknowingly.


The first option is workable, but, as you said, expensive. the second is incredibly hard. It means you have to keep a keen eye out for people copying stuff. And they post it on other platforms too..that makes it almost impossible to keep track, unless you have someone dedicated to the task. But no harm in publicizing the rules etc. Only thing is..there is no 'real' punishment on an online forum such as this. Create a new ID and you are good to go. Unless they pretty much block that IP address...and even that can be worked around. Sigh.

I agree that the solutions penalize the writers more. Kya karein? Kalyug hai. It's pretty much dog-eat-dog out there.

But thanks for the input.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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as some of the other members have already mentioned, Using watermarks is the best solution within the confines of this forum. Write up your FF, go to photoshop or any other painting software, add a watermark, save the whole thing as an image, upload to a website and then put the link with a no copy, members only forum code. Thats the best that can be done as of now.

The mods should give a warning on first instance of plagiarism and then ban the member for any repeated offence. Im disappointed that the mods have let some of the repeated offenders get away with whatever they have been doing.




madmaxine thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: universe_naf

Guys I think I hv a feasible solution. Publicly shaming them! By these methods below,
1. Everyone replying to the post "this is not your work/ shame on you for copying"
2. Asking mods to edit the copy-ers posts letting people know tt so and so plagiarized so and so's work? (not sure if this is possible)
3. Spreading the shame across all sites so these people cannot escape.


Thanks for the input. Unfortunately I don't think publicly shaming them is going to hurt when they're hiding behind an ID that's not even their real name and no one knows who they are. But yes, spreading the word is helpful, in the sense it at least makes people aware.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#20
I'm not too sure how much help I can offer here, but I do know in my University we use special softwares to upload any work which calculates how much has been plagarized from the web. I think this will be too far-fetched and a bit of a hassle for IF to be honest which is really a shame as it almost is foolproof.

Apart from that, I guess converting files into PDF format as someone else suggested could be useful.

Great post. It's nice to see people constructively working together to solve this ongoing problem. 👍🏼


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