Is love great only if its tragic? Why - Page 7

Originally posted by: Geet24

Awesome post...👏

I dont want ArHi as Heer- Ranjha at all... Hope CVs just want Arnav to feel the fear of loosing Khushi (who will be Heer in the play) and start to doubt Shyam's words regarding Khushi( seeing the jealous uncle of Heer in the play) In a article about IPKKND it was said that Finally love will triumph over everything else after the MU... so no tragic end... Lets hope for the best...😊

Originally posted by: Tennessean

Hi JWMRK! Another post written beautifully. I am not sure how the Heer Ranjha sequence is going to play out, but I am just going to tell you what I think.😊

Is love considered great only if it is tragic?
Well, here we don't even know if it is real love. The CVs have showed that ASR being more in love and was almost close to admitting it but the terrace scene messed up everything. As far as Khushi is concerned, she is still not sure and when she feels love, there is some hate incident and she backs off.

Yup, I think largely on similar lines

Where is the love to begin with ...that can turn tragic?
You have hit the nail on its head. ASR and Khushi love each other.😉 We know it, but do they know it?

For this they need to converse.

Will only tragedy make ASR and Khushi immortal?

I am going to answer this from a different point of view. Well, we have seen the ambulance scene where ASR ran to stop the ambulance (ASR reminded me of Usain Bolt that day)😆 but he could never tell khushi what he had to go through. In one of my posts one of the fans wrote that Shyam may put ASR's life in danger over property papers. In this case, I do see Khushi going through the same phase as ASR had to go through. I do want ASR to see the concern in khushi's eyes if such a case were to arise.

Usain Bolt😆😆...

Phew...She cares...I give her credit for that...point is she is otherwise so vocal that it beats me why CVs have to make her comic the minute she is onto realising something significant

Misunderstanding- We are in for one more round of MU because of the keys incident and I have a feeling that ASR is going to blurt it out to her one of these days regarding the terrace scene. From what I understand ME is about clearing the misunderstanding( still not sure about the degree)

Frankly, at this rate I am all for Shyam to succeed...not because he is a terribly intelligent villian...but because ASR and Khushi seem to be the sitting ducks analogy here ...who after knowing the truth have decided to keep quiet.

Rabba Ves- I agree with you that there should be a physical connection between them.😉 Just sleeping on the couch is not enough!😉😉

😆😆...with the kind of intensity they seem to share ...its unimaginable that this is all they can come up with😆😆...maybe its the 8.00PM telecast time...or just that Khushi needs to be shown as pure as snow

MU part- If the misunderstandings are not resolved, then we can have a ton of Rabba Ves and then come back to square one.

I think that the Heer Ranjha sequence will give them a chance to be next to each other ( ASR being away from his laptop and KKGSR being away from Dabba service). I hope something drastic happens and Khushi starts finding out the reason why ASR married her and ASR starts finding out if KKGSR is really guilty or not.

Truth be told many drastic things have happened...being dragged like cattle and been married to topping the list...well one big merry go round

After the sangeet ceremony, they grew a step closer and I hope this sequence takes them a step ahead and closer to the truth.( After all, this will be their first dance as hubby and wifey😉)

Originally posted by: JWMRK

Hi geet😃

how are you and many thanks

Hmmn so Shyam is akin to Heer's uncle...ok lets see how this pans out...agree with you that hope no tragic end and all this is just to bring them together😳

Cheers!

M fine I wanna think positively as IPK is positive... All i know is that lets hope for the best not for the worst... The story is under the control of CVs and they ne'er disappoint us... trust them...

Originally posted by: Lurvebooks

Really interesting post ... in answer to your question ... to attain true cult status love stories have to be tragic ... nothing tugs more at the heart strings then lives cut short at the heights of passion, obsession ... junoon... think of a bird soaring free in the skies and then pelted down by the cruel world 😭

If the love story isn't cut short it would just meld into the mundane ... the lovers would get married and settle into domesticity ... next thing you know they're arguing about the wet towel on the bed, the toilet seat being left up ... 😆 😆 😆

In reality ... true love isn't about making sheep eyes or swearing undying love ... it is as you say the small things like putting the others happiness over ones own etc ... unfortunately it doesn't make for a great read or good tv 😊

Originally posted by: Geet24

Hey Dear !

M fine 😊 I wanna think positively as IPK is positive... All i know is that lets hope for the best not for the worst... The story is under the control of CVs and they ne'er disappoint us... trust them...

Cheers!

Originally posted by: Ankifan

JW🤗

I found the heer-ranjha dance concept bit weird, i dono why do these ppl have to dance at all every now and then, monday intense, tuesday comedy with passion, Wednesday dance, thur's and friday comedy🥱

Heer-Ranjha are Indian Romeo-Juliet kya?? i dono their story😳

Ok now its supposed to be acting and not dancing...phew ...arey yeh dialogues can be said in real life😲😆😆

Heer Ranjha is a Punjab based story I think...Heer was wealthy and Ranjha not so much I think. He use dto play the flute. They meet, fall in love and spend a few years until one day Heer's uncle spots them. So her parents get her married off ...Ranjha becomes sort of an ascetic and one fine day sees her again...Then they try to get together but I guess uncle or someone gives poison to Heer. She dies and seeing her Ranjha consumes poison too and dies.

I for one dint sign up to watch this show to watch these two part or sacrifice their love in the end, i thot despite of their class, thought's, life style, nature, they are destined to be together, and how each of them learn and adapt to each other because of the love they have on each other.. Isnt that normal?? Even in normal life, two unknown ppl get married and learn/explore each other with time, who said their love isnt great??

Divs you spoke my mind...I am all for trials nad tribulations...but come on yaar ...why watch Heer Ranjha when you can actually read up that story by itself...I want ASR Khushi...I want them to be happy, fight like a normal couple, get close, face the situations together.

I for one believe this love is great coz they hold onto their relationship coz they know the need for each other and the love they hv for each other.. Even at this old age when i look at my grand parents who are of age 80+, it feels so overwhelming to look at the care, love they hv for each other, they bicker, they fight, but in all the acts they do one can see the love and care they share, they cant imagine their lives even if one misses..

Oh how wonderful...Thats what I meant about my grandparents too😃...Divs🤗

I hv never been fond of tragic love stories.. Not interested at all honestly!!

And about the show, i have time and again said, i can see love from ASR's side, his emotional turmoil, his feelings, his inner monologue, his pain, the moment he saw kushi is shyam's arms, his feelings came crashing down, the pain of being betrayed by his love, the moment he feels kushi has gt into accident and runs like crazy to find her , with kushi it stops with dhak dhak's and yes recently i saw her caring side for him.. Till nw her dhak dhak's or acidity never gave me reasons to say that it was love(ppl call me women against women or anto feminism i dnt care) but i felt her love more when she turned back at him thinking she called him , that conscious she had, i felt her love when she ran and hugged Arnav in hospital of all the people she had around her though he had dropped her in middle of the road, that hug showed she needs him emotionally, she shared an emotional bond with him then.

Yes I totally endorse all that you have said👏👏👏...all I want is for the CVs to give her credit...They are adults for God sake...have a conversation, sort things out...if they are not able to reconcile then at least the dislike is believable...but just an extended silence with comedy or inane situations is not helping.

Now on the other hand...where is the critical love when it comes to Khushi...the way things seem to often be headed ...Khushi needs an antacid...not ASR😆😆...When are we going to see a scene or two when Kushi tells herself that she loves him?

Exactly, we have seen his saansei rukhjayegi when he feels kushi has met with an accident, he ruins like crazy for her , we have seen his emotional break down looking kushi in shyam's arms, critical love from kushi we have never seen , not even her inner battles about why does she love this guy even after he put through her so much, does she at all love him, not even an inner battle from kushi's side..

Yup, DITTO to every word👏👏

I get the angst against him as his actions are more physical and therefore brutal...but I feel ASR has equally been traumatised (emotionally) by this whole situation and especially by know being told a critical truth about his own life.

This is the reason i feel he knows he is in love but she hasnt realized it yet. Now why hasnt she realized it? coz she is 18, coz she stamped her heart always when ever she opened up.. In that case being 18 she knows many a things about love and marital life, we hv seen her advice to payal the bathroom scene, yes he stamped heart no denial in that, their was kiss, their was a almost kiss, though he does so much at time of need she took his emotional support( hosp) and he was their with her as well..

Divs, we are/ were also young...when you are in your teens ...or lets say later part of the teens (18-19 years old) you know yaar😆...You know when a guy is hitting on you, when he is special, when he takes extra interest, why your own senses go for a toss....and no acidity has got to do nothing with it.😆

They want to show Khushi as innocent...fine...but just because teenage girls know they are attracted or in love that does not take away their innocence.

Am afraid this is a very myopic outlook of the Creatives

Yes i atleast wanto see a scene of her her telling herself about what she feels for him.

Oh and about MU, they are not even focusing on MU, u dont see her thinking on what chot she gave him and starts with comedy and he sometimes gets FB about terrace otherwise normal with her..

Forget about the trauma she gave him...the girl is not even focusing on why she was dragged around and married...any other girl in her predicament would be traumatised and shattered.

And im seriously tired with forced one sided rabba ve's,accidental trip, fall and catch.

The recliner scene showed the love, u see even in his half dozed state he dint let her fall, the way they woke up , his head on her shoulder's and the way he looks at her and places her head comfortably on recliner , showed his silent love, and her turning back thinking he called , these small small gestures speak more of love..

Divs...and credit for this goes to Barun...its evident in every look he has for her...that recent turn around scene when he silently calls out and his reaction to her understanding him...I simply dont understand how that can be taken to be his good nature and not his love...the guy is crazy about her😆

I want the CV's to concentrate on MU, she doesnt knw he loves her she doesnt even knw she loves him, he knows he loves her, he couldnt bear his love nt being reciprocated , thinks the worst of her and puts her into trouble..

Well would he marry someother girl as well had he seen her in shyam's arms the other day?? he wouldnt.. It was just not about his di then, it was him being betrayed as well.

Spot on!!👏👏

I would love to see his and her repent both.

He has really been very wrong in treating her, has put through a lot of things, and i will never justify those, when he learns truth he needs to be apologetic and repent for what he has put her through.

Yup I want him to realise too how wrong he has been with her...how much harm he has caused by not giving her a chance to explain and just presuming things no matter what the provocation

even she needs to repent for hiding such a big truth from raizada's, had she spoke the truth before all these wud hv never happened, what if shyam's plans of killing Anjali would work out , would she forgive herself had Anji been dead?? She is wrong in hiding such a big truth from them, from him, she neesds to know the consequences that she and raizada's faced coz of this hiding truth..

That is so spon on dost👏👏...We are having this coffee table conversations about how cute she is because Anjali and that poor driver is alive...If one of them were dead the Guptas had a load on their shoulders that is worse and humungous.

Both ASR and Khushi are equally good ...equally at fault...both have a cross to bear

First of all is this the way to build their trust??

can we have some nice scenes showing how these two build trut upon each other, how they explore about each other..

Arnav getting more confused with her actions, himself start thinking can this girl ever do wrong to my sis?? he himself then trying to figure out what could hv happened, y did she say that at terrace..

Yup we need some reflection points for him too...its high time he does some thinking.

And Kushi, getting to knw his other side, his softer side, knowing more about him as a person, start feelings that y did she marry me this way, what pain is he going through , and in what way am i responsible to his pain, the guy wo even without talking bout class who helped my sis and her love now y wud he want to break her marriage.. And she trying to figure out about his unreasonable behavior..

Same for her...and stop the un-situational comedy please...this is a lead heroine who is so graceful...why rob her of that

Why don't they show they love each other and then face the challenges😳😳

Above.. I second that.. Cvs its high time.. enough of OTT comedy or senseless plots, get back to actual love story and comncentrate on showing Arnav kushi nt being in love with shyam and show kushi that Arnav is in pain coz of her and his angst towards shyam.

"There is no remedy for love but to love more"

David Henry Thoreau

WOW!!...beautiful👏👏

Im interested in seeing their love becoming more and more as day passes by and care for each other, and in case this is tragic ending then im wasting my time here.

Edit: As per few comments looks like heer is gonna die and Arnav fearing to loose Kushi, havent we seen this already?? we have already seen his saanseein rukhjayegi.. Again we are going to see this??😕 Im bored of this one sided act again🥱

Yaar hamari saansein ruki hui hai for their love😆😆😆

Can we move towards MU clearing track CVs??

Originally posted by: cindrella255

Hey J!

Awww! love u for reading my mind n posting...I m typing this reply aftr almost 4 hours of ressing n b4 reading it...but there was something nagging me off late, regarding love between the leads n how it s portrayed...

I m personally an angst lover (probably one of the reasons dat I connect with "HURTING" ASR more than happy bunny Kh!) (My fav hobby - listening sad songs n crying buckets over the lyrics 🤣 )So I have no problems in showing hurt/hurting on either side than 101 nuske 2 irritate😆...And dat s abt my opinion abt REEL life ka love...but in real life...Nah!

Ok coming to the topic(which anyways is not going 2 b related 2 topic anyways 😆)

A man who loved, lost, found yet not acknowledging it (hurting his gal throughout n himself) and a gal who faced his wrath, loved, confused, afraid (getting hurt all the way)...tied in a nupital knot, sharing the room , getting adjusted with each other(though they do not want to)...lot can happen other slipping , catching n duppatta flying...Forget passionate romance, what can be more poetic than a man understanding pains/uneasiness meant for his woman (This purely personal opinion or may be my lack of experience speaking☺️ ) I know they cannot get into details but at least the discomfort n getting used the other one's presence cud hav been shown especially when the relationship s indescribable one..like this!

And yes though I like passionate scenes I wud like 2 scenes which build their relationship, that adds new dimensions (like the star gazing one u described...and I liked his breaking down to her on his parent's death anniversary too, cos though hurting he shared it with her!)...

Oh cum on with leads like these people who can burn screen when they r several meters apart (remember the office scene when removes coat b4 dictating , bechara did nothing but managed 2 send shivers thru spine😆) a lot can b done other than fisaling n fake RV

Here the MU should b the focusing point but the focus often varies to side stories which liquifies the actual story (esp the senseless goofy slapstick in an intense story with serious problems) and lo! v forget the actual track...Like I said in Anu's n few other post I want MU to b cleared not b4 they realize n ready 2 accept their love( declaring love while sure of innocence = normal , declaring love when not sure of it =👍🏼, but again I m being hopeless)

Edited to Add

I was pondering over love in real life n few replies...its true, does declaring, make moony eyes,candle light dinner is all about love? I don't think so...
for eg my dad never praises my mom's cooking(dunno y, he never talks abt food, be it my mom's, his mom(my grandma) or hotel)...but whenever she makes something spl for him or he loves the prepared one, he takes little more than wat he takes normally(being diet conscious) and I can sense my mom being happier dat day...(That was reason for me to love similar in the show, which was spoiled later anyway!)...

Okay my blabber seems to b getting nowhere...Love ur post..esp these portions

ASR died a painful death that day when he saw two people on the terrace...not just because one of it was his brother in law come close family

BUT because the other person he was was someone whom ASR lost himself to😳...the love of his life...or rather his life...Khushi

And ASR got a new life that day when he held a bhaang drunk girl in his arms😳...the love of his life...or rather his life...Khushi

"None of the messages sent by the passengers of the ill fated planes that hit the 9-11 Twin Towers were of hate ...the messages were of love😳😳"

Originally posted by: JWMRK

Sharmookins🤗🤗

Will write in detail later but just wanted to say what you wrote (underlined by me) about is what is "cute and innocent"...Awww so sweet yaar🤗🤗...a young person with refreshing thoughts and yet the innocence strikes you...

This is what I have been saying all along...make Khushi contemporary...just because she acknowledges love does not make her loose her simplicity and innocence.

You are a gem of a girl Sharmi...dont ever loose that😃