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Posted: 13 years ago
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dear doobs -
*edit if u don't agree please feel free to comment *

im usually a huge fan of ur post and wait patiently to read them, really missed them this week.

but i have to politely DISAGREE/ or pose my perceptive abt khushi an arnav.

ur right abt the fact that arnav's character is always maintained. he hates her outwardly but cv's always show his caring/loving side for khushi to the audience. i blame the cv's for making him slightly brain dead. at least he didnt believe shyam statement right of the bat like last time and cut his funding. i also thought that bec he remembered the holi confession atleast his part he was very forgiving and mellowed out with khushi atleast they showed that the confession had some effect on him. he let her back into the room and went outside himself. kinda going thru a physical punishment via the prolonged sprained neck for throwing her out so cruelly outside. i was surprised that neither khushi or ever anjali (shockingly) cared abt his sprain. even when khushi has failed to recognize his pain (tea throwing, diabetes remark at the cocktail party) anjali has never failed to reach out to her chote in pain. yet this time both have ignored him and his pain. to me it was a hint at the upcoming redemption where khushi will be absent and anjali unaware of the pain that arnav is going thru. will they show khushi addressing his pain next week finally to show that after some time she will come and take his pain away by forgiving him.

for arnav care and love .. which i have no doubt about .. an never did that he loves khushi. i think people get confused to the fact that khushi 80% of the time never sees nor hear nor witnesses his concern or care. past diwali the only time she knew for sure that arnav likes her in a romantic sense. was sangeet prep to wedding day. an at night all things went to hell. this is the time where arnav was very expressive to khushi abt his feelings. which was like 3 days in the show timeline.

forgetting all the ott drama and which is not a new trait in khushi and the blatant plot holes/inconsistency. The comedy week which the cv's have done before as well to pause the drama in the show ( or accommodate leads absence). each time people have complained and the cv's come back full force. so i have no doubt the story will be back on track.


now coming to khushi... this was the first week i felt like khushi put herself above others even ahead of arnav. for this week she thought abt khushi .. what i want.. and want to do an to hell with everyone else. since the wedding the every member has taken their pound of flesh from her. and this week khushi was away for everyone talking mostly an only to herself. this again hinted to me of her looming absence for the RM in the future. she didnt even interact with payal nor discuss her business plan with anyone else. this was very odd of khushi as before she has turned to payal for support in her business adventures be it woking at AR or the sweet shop. i think she will be off on her own and make it on her own an cut off from all other but will survive. only support she did use was arnav (atleast his name) repeadly, will it be arnav who even when she thinks she is alone will serve as her guardian angel helping her indirectly. yes many find her actions selfish and uncaring. i didnt think it was that bad, yes she didnt bring him food but come on like arnav would ever accept that gesture but
when she saw arnav respond to her food the next day she came and self delivered him meal and esp. made him unsweet halwa. yes unlike before when she was shown nice and caring and sweet always but khushi above all else is a SURVIVOR. and right now she is in survivor mode bec now she is feeling very isolated. she has hidden shyam's truth from arnav and raizadas but she has never hidden huge things from her family. this action of arnav has isolated khushi from her family even after the forgiveness she has not reveled the truth of their marraige to her family. another things i noticed is khushi herself thwarted shyams advances. dropped the pestle on his foot and alerted anjali to his advance .. she is looking out her herself in this aspect as well. when she saw arnav respond to her food the next day she came and self delivered him meal and esp. made him unsweet hawa.

this week reminded me of when khushi breaks arnav car mirror and this lands her into his office/ life. arnav has always been the motivation of her entrepreneurship and independence, that time it was the mirror that gave her the push to join the work force.


an even now it is arnav again who indirectly pushed her into this. also whenever arnav is involved in her work she is successful.

last time she invaded his work place and took over the workstation adoring it with her stuff it had an effect she marked not only his space but arnav himself . later he looked at that an remembered her when she was gone.. she had made a place in his heart.


this time she has invaded his bedroom in the same way decorating it with the same gaudy stuff




so like last time i think this invasion of his space with help her connect with the place she has in his heart. as irritated he is of khushi antics its is these very antics that stir him up enough to get a reaction to khushi. arnav has a iron mask on he will not remove it unless forced, kicking an screaming. and khushi ott drama always pushes him closer to madness which makes him react with emotion not logic... thus reveling his heart

greatness is not defined just by self sacrifice. nor blind love. anjali loves shyam blindly and look at the result she is unable to see shyam for what he is. khushi love for arnav is unconditional but not blind. she is very aware when he is in the wrong but never hates him for it and forgives very easily. here is my question y cant she think abt herself and her future? to her this marriage is a temp. situation unlike her sister. she has no assurance that arnav will not kick her out on the street after 6 months. so she wants to make some money.. yes it stared out as i want to give him money back but she found a way to secure herself. and maybe she used arnav office and name. what soo bad abt that. if she was really using him she would sit at home and take his money and arnav would give it too she knows that. arnav has never asked for money back esp from her. and lets not forget arnav is totally using her for his personal endeavors ... so y call foul on khushi for using him in her business endeavors. khushi is demanding (maybe in a annoying way) her rights as his wife, rights which arnav himself has exerted in weeks previous. my real question is Y IS IT A SIN for women to put themselves their self respect and needs ahead of others. y is all the sacrifice and understanding expected only from them. im not defending her antics but defending the heart of the matter no one not even the man she love/ who loves her should push her around and force her to do things against her will. and this marriage was against her will. yes wanted to marry arnav but not they way it happened. the only thing i give the cv's credit for is the gender equality between arnav and khushi. if arnav can look out for number one so can khushi and it isnt tit for tat. she has every right to go as she pleases just like arnav. she should not back down bec she is they loving caring women. love should not take away ur autonomy as a human being. i agree with u abt the cv's methods and plot holes of showing this but im kinda with them on message.


this might be me looking thru rosy colored glasses abt their future or chugging the koolaid. but just by going on the shows history. khushi ott antics have always brought them closer. the first office drama showed him she is tough cookie, tea throwing showed him she isnt malicious as a person, the cocktail party showed how much she loves her sister which he then used later for his benefit. i think this endeavor of khushi will in long term prove that she is not staying with arnav nor interested in his money or his status.

thanks to everyone who read this really long post! this like my first time writing in IP REDUX.
Edited by geetmaanluv - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Brill post doods. U go girl!!!!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Newbiesoapfan

Wow doodleberry -- I am on Page 1

Agree with you on all the points... seems like the CVs have lost it completely... they keep hitting the reset button on all characters and make them chew on nimbu... Khushi goes through this a lot. Arnav was spared till the terrace incident -- character was completely off last week.
Payal , anji , maami - no growth at all.
Are they killing time till ME?
P.S. Did not understand the Shyam and Anjali moving out of the house and money transfer. Shyam was purportedly looking for a house -- the whole thing was a sham ... and he would have used this money anyway...


Thanks Newb.

Naa naa you donno how they butchered Shyaam's character. Do you know Shyaam used to pay for Anjali's stay at RM??? That is the reason why everyone loves him even Arnav, he was been shown as the "Khuddar" person at RM before revealing him... only thing was against him that he used to be on tours most of the time and only Maami suspected him.

Look at him now??? How they have butchered the character... they forgt what they have been showing...😡


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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'll come at my night and reply other posts... I have to go now..been typing since 3 hours...lemme take a break and come back.. Will reply to you all later. Chalega naa??? 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Extremely well written! This is not the drama or the characters that we fell in love with! The CV's seem utterly lost without any clue how to go further! Hoping they read your take on this weeks episodes and pull up their socks!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good post, and althoough I agree with some and not with others I do love this post. The one that I do not agree is :1.Why would arnav think khushi is helping shyam???The reason i say this is she left for work even before arnav had made that decision and even before shyam knew about it???I guess this is what I am speaking from logic but lately arnav's brain have gone on vacation so maybe he doesnt remember that???is that what you mean as well???
2. Khushi's character does 180degree turn every single day and its getting confusing i totally agree...they need to keep this levelheaded and properly
Now as yourself I am giving this till the end of may ...one for this idiotic MU to be cleared first and foremost...because it just doesnt make any sense and then show how khushi loves arnav,confession withoout any bhang or anyting and then consummation followed by honeymoon and then other MU can come i have no issues...but you are right...it is limited dreams
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fantastic analysis and right on every account!

I have been so disappointed since last Friday episodes in this show. I had loved how this show had not only great story, sizzling leads but also side characters that had heft and something to say. People used to talk to each other and move the story forward. Now all we get is Khushi & Laxmi conversations or playing together, while everyone else seems to sitting around looking dazed and confused. Ever Arnav's character, much as I like Barun, seems to be just mooning over Khushi's OTT antics. The only sign of life from him lately has been the stop on Shyam's money supply.

I really hope that production house is paying attention if they want to keep the fans sticking around.

P.S. I too love Big Bang Theory. Talk about character growth. If Sheldon can, why can't IPKKND characters?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hai Doods,

Though I am not for making independent posts , as it takes understanding & time to streamline the thought process and put them in to words, recent episodes compelled me to make one 2 days back.

It's true that yours and tanthya's posts are the only post that reviews everyday's episode unbiased. It's the mature content of the post that pulls me to ur thread. And am a fan of you both as you both really write well. I neither defend/ criticise arnav nor khushi. I am for the story.

It's the story that makes or breaks arnav and khushi .

So far arnav's & khushi's characters have been built delicately.

Khushi's intelligence, independent, spirited, self respect & go getter attitude is already been known & established. Why again and again, CV's want to prove something that does not seem fit anywhere?

Why all of a sudden rs 300 loan repayment has become prime important? Not to forget rs 25000 or 1 lakh. ''' I am not againt khushi's working. And no job is inferior or superior. But there is a way to present it. If they really wanted to show her entrepreneurship, they would have done it in a respectful way.

Was it necessary for her to make the guards to sniff/ smell the food to make the entry in to office? It did not speak well. Instead she should have walked in with full authority as owners' wife and ordering the staff in to canteen & serve themselves. In turn Arnav falling silent watching her authorative ways and, appreciating her inwardly could have been watch worthy.

What is this about the staff? , they should have behaved properly at the sight of food.. Not fighting like kids for icecream. Cv's should show some decency in characters WHILE EXECUTING THE SCENES.

Khushi is no more a girl now. She is a married woman staying at in laws house. Some responsibility is called for. Nobody knows her whereabouts or what she is up to. Her actions did not fit anywhere.

May b shyam fits in this dabbawal story.

If cv's wanted her to supply dabba's, it makes sense that, they make khushi prepare food and make her distribute them through a distributor. That would have spoken well of her position as DIL of business family and the maturity... Its not running around with pen and paper & dabba's & bags & blabbering whatever comes to her mouth.

You are right."Khushi of all trades and master of all"

Arnav- what's wrong with you ?

Yes, we know that he remembers their confession. He is mellowing down. But that doesnot mean that he steals the lunch box and eats . Its not him. Definitely not him. I am looking for real arnav. When all this was happening in his office, he was just reduced to a mere joker standing their with the exclamation'...what the'?... hanging his neck. Mind you, we are here for your formidable overpowering personality. Whats that thing about pizza?

Not to talk about rabbave bg for khushi when she saw him eating. Did not do any wonders as it did not come from her heart. Because in the first place she did not even consider his starving.

If cv's keep such things coming up, I am sure the intensity of their love, their chemistry is going to loose its magical charm on us.

Last one thing to add: for fun only😉'.Now I know why cv's showed this episode.

They wanted to prove SP's ' rishta wahi''.soch nayi'..

Nayi soch here is '.. we have heard of famous dabbawalas. But now we are hearing of first ever lady dabbawali. ''

Khushi'.. The dabbewali.

So that Next time in SPA award ceremony, ipkknd cud get enough space in spa promotions as we got nayi soch here. And moreover khushi can perform as goddess Annapurna 😊 just like sandya who performed as goddess Saraswati.


Edited by payasa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Doodle...I so agree with u...they are butchering khushi's character badly...n also ASR to some extend...
anjali nani payal are in jaise the position...
  • why khushi has show food n make guards smell that...cant she say I m MRS Raizada & I camee to give tiffin to my husband...(forget husband part she didnt make it for Arnav)

  • 2 tiffins supplies whole staff...n khushi herself serves them...doesnt even take help of guards or other employees...over here ppl wud say "koi kam chota nahi hota etc" agreed but whr is dignity of mangal sutra n raizada surname she faults all the time


  • I m still annoyed for her not showing concern for ASR's stiff neck ok forget abt that but not having breakfast...ASR is diabetic..a near fainting episode happened near her did she forget so soon? if she believes in this marriage than y no concern of husband..no I dont say khushi should become typical SP bahu n endure all pain n worship her pati...but small concern on some matters are necessary...not to forget deep in her heart she loves him.


  • payal never thought y khushi took such step...no step from her to find out...everyone accepted khushi so forget it...I expected payal to genuinely love khushi..all she is doing is 101 ways how to woo her sasuma acts...n cry.


  • ASR ke samne canteen wala itna kuch bol gaya n he didnt utter a wors ASR who doesnt take BS from ppl listens to him n doesnt even show anger...😕


  • if ASR thinks khushi doing business for shyam...CRAP cant he see a self-respecting woman who doesnt take money from him or cant see canteen wala cry n jobless wud make anjali cry whom she adores...

  • Nani f9 with khushi ka business... supplying AR staff food? just to show-down mamiji she said yes? y she didnt ask khushi reason n scold khushi y she took decision w/o asking...she has forgiven khushi few days back...itna jaldi sab kuch bhul gaye naniji?
    running away n getting married isnt small thing ppl wud forget easily...I believe khushi was answerable to family n naniji...she cud have said to help her family who have no source of income.

  • Story heading kind of no-where...its geet comedy circus in IPK damn it was so irritating in Geet that I left watching show will leave this one too if story doesnt come back on tract...

  • where is INTENSE DRAMA & HATE tract? it is USP of show n it is missing😡

end of my rambling for now
just upset on CVs in general

PS I really liked KKGSR standing on her feet & earning...love that but execution & treatment of story is Crappy...& thats y m complaining.




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Doodhs! So good to see you back! Really missed you and your wonderful analysis but I was so happy today to see it - so everything maaf! :))

Okay coming to your analysis - It was Fabulous! U also spoke what I wanted to say about Khushi! I could not have said it any better. I have been very disappointed with the way Khushi's character has been shaping up - I do not know why - but like you have put it - diwali's episode Khushi and the Khushi now has become someone that I cannot relate to. She has been behaving like a 6 year old and I wish the creatives would start focussing on Khushi's character asap - Arnav has always been true to his character so I do not have much problem with him. However - Khushi's character needs important concentration.

I was truly pissed with the lack of concern she showed when Arnav got a neck sprain - I did expect something not a smug and taunt. She disappointed me big time there. Secondly - again she did not bring specifically food for Arnav and came to the office with ulterior motive that again did not go down well with me. However I sufficed myself with the whole her stopping him for the jalebi and I think that is as far as she could go.

Arnav has realized about his love for her - so he has mellowed down a bit. I found it a bit out of his character - yet now I understand why! I totally get it why Khushi is going to do her business and I do support it whole heartedly - but I do not support the way it is being done - I perfectly stand by the example you have given! Standing up on your feet is good but not the way she is doing it!!

I won't talk about other characters since I am in office. Needed to put my point across and Tanthya said that I could vomit here so that no one judges me and everyone will discuss it with constructive criticism!

Will look forward to your reply :)

Lots of love!


Edited by --Anna-- - 13 years ago

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