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Posted: 13 years ago
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Iagree wid each & every word of urs!Ireally dont kno how they manage to garner more TRPs by insulting,torturing,demeaning women in this way considering women r ther majority audience! this is the only reason i can never watch an indian soap for more than a few weeks

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they cud have shown ASRs anger ina personal way... there was no need for the mass humiliation of khushis character!agreed they have a right to tell their story the way they want it ... but not in this way...
i hope someone from SP & IPKKND unit reads ur post .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agree 100%. On one of my trips to India a couple of years ago, I was shocked when i came across an article in a national newspaper that stated TRPs of Indians soaps have direct correlation to how much the women in the show cry!! 😕 I found that disgusting and downright insulating as a woman! Little did I know then that I would be the victim of the charms of Khushi and ASR a year later. This is the only show i am hooked on and how I now wish I wasn't!😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

Gosh never apologize or put a disclaimer for stating the obvious and the more I read your posts the more I enjoy the see it like it is writing style of yours Take a bow👏 👏
While not going into great details over todays most edifying episode I just want to say what I said else where also What really galls me is how so many of our younger(?) members in the forum just seem to think he can do no wrong all because he is a hottie or so good looking or whatever. They vilify her gleefully ,crucify her cheerfully whenever they feel she is not behaving to the standards set by them and yet when he does the same all silly excuses are brought out and all kinds of sentimental drivel attributed to his action.

If you are going to condemn one out of sheer cussedness and are ready to let the other off the hook for the same crime then I don't see any difference in the double standards and regressive thinking that we accuse the channels of perpetuating on us there and what is exhibited here.

I am just as straight and possess the same hormonal surges as any other girl but I will not stand and shout on top of the rooftops and pant on how hot this man and condemn the woman he is involved with just to prove this point. Some of the posts that came out last week pained me immensely at the superficial way some of the members were viewing this entire behavioral change in Arnav to ASR and lauding it as high time. While I enjoyed some of the more naughtier posts on post wedding fun situations which I though were real hilarious there were some that not only justified but glorified his actions and again she was seen as someone too weak and dimwitted to care of herself and only he could be her savior.
Shyam will be shown enjoying all the status accorded to a much adored(puke) son in law being a caring loving husband to Anjali whilst planning something rotten and we may have to put up with him till the end of days of the serial which is not something I am truly looking forward to. I was expecting all this drivel and yet it has left me feeling a bit angry and let down. Sigh I know it is a work of fiction but having invested time energy and imagination into fleshing out these fanasy characters I guess I wanted something different
Once again brilliant analysis and looking forward to more of your hard hitting posts



I second those every points.. I love ur logical posts as wells misclog2003's...
and those posts u r talking about irked me also to no bounds..
and by now I hope u've also seen some posts aha-ing and uhu-ing about the precap where ASR uttered a so called PATNEE word about Khushi during a face-off with the Creep..
whatever I am switching to Punarvivah show till this woman-degradation, character assassination and Khushi-lynching of this show come to an end..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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lovely post👏i was so angry the way they put asr character down ...and very sad at the way they potrayed women..but its a daily show on indian television..wht can we expect other than abala nari,self sacrifice,majboori blah blah...i have seen worse shows on indian tv where they degrade women to such an extent i have no words to express it...i started watching ipkknd coz of kkg and now this happens still have little hope left...if the cvs really want to to show ipkknd is diff they better do something soon or thr trps will fall...but i doubt it ..as a international viewer we cant do anything to effect the trps...most shows like sns,dil se dua on life ok etc r popular in india...i am suprised that ppl esp women love to watch this kind of shows which show all kind of depressing content...i dont want ipkknd in that catogery...but still love arshi...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You're not in the minority...or at least I hope you're not because I'm there with you...and I can't believe there isn't a good proportion of the viewers/fans who feel the same way after yesterday's episode...after all...this show is meant to try to appeal to an audience who doesn't go for the typical Indian drama.

The CVs have taken it to this low a level so that when it rises, it rises big time. BUT, I think I've continually said it in this forum today...the end DOES NOT justify the means.

Forget ASR...all of them lost their brains in that episode. I know there are people who say the reactions are justified and it's how they should be expected to react...REALLY?

So they're supposed to totally forget everything about that person and question/judge them like they never knew them?

I come from a middle class family, and we may not be in India, but we have the all important sanskaar...they would not have left me there...they would have taken me home to give me a good talking and more importantly, they would not have been satisfied with silence...they would have forced me to give a reason.

This episode showed pack mentality...raw, animalistic behaviour...as such, it's high drama and great for TRPs. But it's definitely not relfective of the way a sanskaari middle class family behaves and it's debilitating for the collective soul and peace of this forum!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: neverbefore

You're not in the minority...or at least I hope you're not because I'm there with you...and I can't believe there isn't a good proportion of the viewers/fans who feel the same way after yesterday's episode...after all...this show is meant to try to appeal to an audience who doesn't go for the typical Indian drama.

The CVs have taken it to this low a level so that when it rises, it rises big time. BUT, I think I've continually said it in this forum today...the end DOES NOT justify the means.

Forget ASR...all of them lost their brains in that episode. I know there are people who say the reactions are justified and it's how they should be expected to react...REALLY?

So they're supposed to totally forget everything about that person and question/judge them like they never knew them?

I come from a middle class family, and we may not be in India, but we have the all important sanskaar...they would not have left me there...they would have taken me home to give me a good talking and more importantly, they would not have been satisfied with silence...they would have forced me to give a reason.

This episode showed pack mentality...raw, animalistic behaviour...as such, it's high drama and great for TRPs. But it's definitely not relfective of the way a sanskaari middle class family behaves and it's debilitating for the collective soul and peace of this forum!

Thank you so much for this reply. You hit it exactly. Pack mentality. We are supposed to humans. I can tell you, my mom can sense from my voice that I am upset. If she sees me crying like Kushi, no matter what the situation is, she would never show her anger immediately. She will first always try to calm me down and try to ask what is wrong and will be stern with me but that would show she might be disappointed but also will make it wasy for me to confide in her.
That is what a mother is supposed to be. Shashi Babua was the only one with any sort of parental feeling and gave Kushi a much needed Mother's warmth.
I have given my mom grief many times. She has been tough those times. But never did she use language and shake me down and made me feel ashamed to be alive. NEVER.
But I guess such moms are not the norm. Maybe I am lucky or most people who say that is how parents should react are not that lucky as I am. I digress.
Edited by misclog2003 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: misclog2003

Thank you so much for this reply. You hit it exactly. Pack mentality. We are supposed to humans. I can tell you, my mom can sense from my voice that I am upset. If she sees me crying like Kushi, no matter what the situation is, she would never show her anger immediately. She will first always try to calm me down and try to ask what is wrong and will be stern with me but that would show she might be disappointed but also will make it wasy for me to confide in her.

That is what a mother is supposed to be. Shashi Babua was the only one with any sort of parental feeling and gave Kushi a much needed Mother's warmth.
I have given my mom grief many times. She has been tough those times. But never did she use language and shake me down and made me feel ashamed to be alive. NEVER.
But I guess such moms are not the norm. Maybe I am lucky or most people who say that is how parents should react are not that lucky as I am. I digress.



My pleasure! 😃 The least this should do is want to give our mums a BIG hug! And, chin up...there's lots of loving and some fight back to be enjoyed in the coming weeks.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mitrashakti

With personal experience I've seen that women who goes through immense trauma falls into acute depression where they live their lives without any emotions. Sanaya emoted the pain beautifully... The last scene looked as if she has lost all hope and life... till now she never actually hated ASR even when he was responsible for Payal's broken marriage and more...but with this incident...her hatred will be immensely stronger. Losing her family was the last nail, she will withdraw herself from life. As long as the cvs keep it logical...oh wait...who are we kidding with?

Completely agree with you. Emotional turmoil is not going away no matter what you do.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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exactly - if this serial infuriates you , please do not watch it ( at least not till they show Arnavs remorse and love ) , It will be detrminal to your health .
Just a warning - life is made up of all sorts of experiences , we should be prepared for the worse always .
Whatever is happening in a serial is of so less consequence in our lives that to get infuriated by it - seems to me juvenile - extremely juvenile.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunaina02

exactly - if this serial infuriates you , please do not watch it ( at least not till they show Arnavs remorse and love ) , It will be detrminal to your health .

Just a warning - life is made up of all sorts of experiences , we should be prepared for the worse always .
Whatever is happening in a serial is of so less consequence in our lives that to get infuriated by it - seems to me juvenile - extremely juvenile.

I will try to respond to this as best as I can, without forgetting to be civil.
Please do not persume to know that I do not know what life is made up of. You have no idea what I have gone through in life. So please do not lecture me about what we should be prepared for.
If my reactions are juvenile and I shouldn't give importance to serials, why are you responding to a juvenile post on what is happening in a serial.
All I can think of is you probably never heard of the word Hypocrisy or Pot Calling the Kettle Black or Practice What You Preach.

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