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Writer42 thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: reyabear

I don't understand why this issue has been brought up again though, we all accepted the rules and made our own blogs/posted stuff on a different website like some Mods had suggested and were happily carrying on with I-F so why now?

All this is going to do is instigate more hatred and spring up more pointless arguments that are going to end the same way. Just saying.



I brought it up again Shreya, after a conversation with one of the Mods. I thought it appropriate to defend their actions against the huge backlash they are facing. Even tonight I have seen the rules violated on the IF forum. So what I have to say is appropriate and necessary IMO. Why now, because the Mods brought it up and as a writer on this forum I felt it necessary to voice my opinion like other writers have.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't want to get into the whole freedom of expression thing we have discussed over ane over and most of us prefer to take it elsewhere, but one point you made really made me wonder about the pretty woman esque ff. When we go to write an Ff we take inspiration from the characters and after that its up to us to write out the story however we wish it. Some pepople decide to write sweet love stries some decide to write in more turbulent ways its entirely up to us.
I can respect guidelines and i have rewritten to abide by them but this re of having to protect kids on this forum and write keepingvtheir sensibilities in mind is ridiculous. A kid sho is curious will not be digging through fan fiction on this site! I tuonk this fact has been articulated by many, my issue with the dictation of asking to keep in mind all tge children before we write something.

There are enough readers who can diferentiate between disgusting and intense and who are not ashamed to accept that as adults adult emotions and expressions.
Fan fiction is by definition left up to thd creator of it and if kushi gets r*aped( i am writing with this spelling coz seems we should not evev say it) murdered beaten its part of that story!
Is this forum for adults to express or protect the innocence of children?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: HeadOverHeels


You know, till you spoke of forum rules, and content relating to that, I was actually quite OK with your thread, and just pointed out that violence is also not suitable for children. Although as a writer myself, I would never think of asking you or anyone else to tone it down, or not write what you wish to, since I feel that IF does its duty towards protecting children at registration, when they clearly state that a member must be 16 years and older. However, it becomes difficult to then defend the mods who hold up rules, when they themselves insist that there are 9 year olds on the forum, which in essence is breaking of rule number 1.

I actually quite enjoyed your story, and would be disgusted if anyone reported it, and it resulted in getting shut down. I think that's how it works here, MODs see a reported post and act accordingly, they do not read all OS/FF/SS in their entirety on the forum, which is one of the reasons for the uproar on IF these days.


And, that's where you and I differ I guess, because you did not stop with "against the rules" in this thread, but instead took the opportunity of responding and using it to point fingers at writers about WHAT they write, not just HOW they write it, and stay within forum rules. You actually disapprove of such content yourself, and using forum rules as a shield for that is, well, not very nice.



All I can say is that somehow after months of writing what I write it has become the issue. Instead of addressing what was in the post people have chosen to attack my writing and in doing so they defend the soft p*rn written prolifically by other writers.

I think by now someone on the Mod's team has read my work and if they have a problem with it they will let me know.

I have not pointed fingers at any one writer their work speaks for themselves. Res ipsa loquitur. However you do seem to be personally attacking what I have said. I have criticized the writers who write soft p*rn for all intents and purposes.

I am expressing an opinion that so many of you happen to disagree with. In the end it is not about what I think, it is about what the Mods think even if most folks disagree with them and me.

I do not need to hide behind the rules I call like I see it.
Edited by KaushalyaFan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: TeleFan

I don't want to get into the whole freedom of expression thing we have discussed over ane over and most of us prefer to take it elsewhere, but one point you made really made me wonder about the pretty woman esque ff. When we go to write an Ff we take inspiration from the characters and after that its up to us to write out the story however we wish it. Some pepople decide to write sweet love stries some decide to write in more turbulent ways its entirely up to us.
I can respect guidelines and i have rewritten to abide by them but this re of having to protect kids on this forum and write keepingvtheir sensibilities in mind is ridiculous. A kid sho is curious will not be digging through fan fiction on this site! I tuonk this fact has been articulated by many, my issue with the dictation of asking to keep in mind all tge children before we write something.

There are enough readers who can diferentiate between disgusting and intense and who are not ashamed to accept that as adults adult emotions and expressions.
Fan fiction is by definition left up to thd creator of it and if kushi gets r*aped( i am writing with this spelling coz seems we should not evev say it) murdered beaten its part of that story!
Is this forum for adults to express or protect the innocence of children?





Last time I checked, you were not a Moderator.

You don't make the rules. The Mods do.

If they say the s*x stuff has to go, it HAS to go.

Others don't follow the Mod's rules, KF does.

Whaddya gonna do?

Also, I would ask you to please slow down when you write, its a bit hard trying to get your point. Thanks.

Josh
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: TeleFan

I don't want to get into the whole freedom of expression thing we have discussed over ane over and most of us prefer to take it elsewhere, but one point you made really made me wonder about the pretty woman esque ff. When we go to write an Ff we take inspiration from the characters and after that its up to us to write out the story however we wish it. Some pepople decide to write sweet love stries some decide to write in more turbulent ways its entirely up to us.
I can respect guidelines and i have rewritten to abide by them but this re of having to protect kids on this forum and write keepingvtheir sensibilities in mind is ridiculous. A kid sho is curious will not be digging through fan fiction on this site! I tuonk this fact has been articulated by many, my issue with the dictation of asking to keep in mind all tge children before we write something.

There are enough readers who can diferentiate between disgusting and intense and who are not ashamed to accept that as adults adult emotions and expressions.
Fan fiction is by definition left up to thd creator of it and if kushi gets r*aped( i am writing with this spelling coz seems we should not evev say it) murdered beaten its part of that story!
Is this forum for adults to express or protect the innocence of children?




So someone's writing is more important to you in the grand scheme of things than the protection of a child? Someone needs to fix their priorities. I strongly disagree that wanting to protect kids from reading smut is "ridiculous" as you put it. Please re prioritize. How do you know kids are not reading the smut on this site? Can you prove it?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mr.TalentScout

That's my whole point.

How many kids want to know about c*ndoms and 'round two?' as the Arnav character said to the character of Khushi in one of the FFs I read.

How many cartoons feature that kinda language?

Yuck, dude.

What you stated, is your opinion.

Makes no sense to me.

If kids are playing violent video games, KF's writing is freakin' tame compared to that. Gotta give her that, if one is going to be fair here.

Hey, the Mods said writers should follow their guidelines.

So, do that.

If they kick someone out because their guidelines are not followed, they have the final word.

This is no place for s*ft po*n.

Hope that stuff is not being defended.

Says a lot about the defender, ya know, bro?

Josh

BTW, Indian movies are more violent than what I've read of KF's writing.

But the p*rn stuff has gotta go...or get a blog and smut yourself away! No one's gonna stop ya!

A nod to the Mods...

Can't follow the rules? The kitchen door ain't that far away, is what I'd say to the smutty writers...the would-be Barbara Cartlands...




Totally agree Josh. This site is no place for soft p*rn which is seen so frequently here. Some of the writers on IF do seem obsessed with smut. I don't see the artistic value in terms of good writing. Thanks for your support on what I see as a very simple issue.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#27
I've just got one question to ask.. India-Forums' Terms of Use state the following:

Use of and membership in the India-forums Website is void where prohibited. By using the India-forums Website, you represent and warrant that (a) you are 16 years of age or above (b) your use of the India-forums Website do not violate any applicable law or regulation. Your profile may be deleted and your membership may be terminated without warning, if we believe that you are less than 16 years of age.

BELOW 16



Then why are the Moderators stating that there are members who are aged nine here on IF! Shouldn't they be closing those accounts then? Or asking for an ID check of some sort or SOMETHING?
Edited by ..Jojo.. - 13 years ago

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm not gonna comment on "the situation" but, umm Mr.TalentScout dude, don't you have better things to do then go fangirl over Kausalyaji? Like...scouting talent I guess.
This is probably gonna lead to you hating me and using big words o talk bout how you're right, but hey, my opinion, I get to state it- guess what, I have rights.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Jojo..

I've just got one question to ask.. India-Forums' Terms of Use state the following:




Ask them, not me. If you bothered to quote/paste the rules your question should be directed to the moderators not me.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mr.TalentScout

Actually, there is no comparison between KF's writing and the soft p*rn that is being offered up as good writing by others.

KF's stories are full of high drama and yes, female empowerment. I've been in this trade for decades and can spot good work anywhere.

I honestly did not expect to see this kind of soft p*rn on this site.

It kinda put me off.

I'm surprised at how tripped out people are getting by attacking KF.

Got a problem? Tell the Mods. KF is expressing her opinion and she does not peddle in smut. (Sorry but that's what it is.)

Those who write smut, need to get a blog and take their 'material' elsewhere.

I support the Mods. And I support KF.

Attacking KF doesn't mean a thing, if your pals write soft p*orn, it reflects on you.

Get a blog, guys. Smut is smut, no matter how you clothe it.

And those asking KF to chill, how about ya take that chill pill yourself?

The Mods rock. KF is a SUPERB author. I stand by her.

And whoa there Nelly, I've seen some crappy writers in my time.

KF is a true talent. She doesn't have to smut-ify her writing to get likes.


Josh



Sorry to hear this, but none of us here need to be self-appointed judge of smut. Not you, not anyone. And writing soft p*rn reflects on the writers? I've never seen such a blatant ad-hominem attack ever in this forum. Why this holier than thou attitude? Is it fear or insecurity in one's own morality or faith that makes one so AFRAID of so called soft po*n writers?

Abiding by IF rules is one thing, but blatant ad-hominem attacks on your part is totally uncalled for.

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