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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Serial Junkie

Thank you for your warm reassuring words, your support and welcoming me on board. After your reply I do think I shall definitely give the forum my benefit of the doubt and look forward to knowing you all the better in the future.
Once again thanks!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

Please let me make it very clear right at the outset that this topic was not intentionally generated to get some cheap thrills or for sensation seeking, I am pretty well balanced thank you very much! I don't need 15 seconds of fame no matter how thrilling it may seem to some.

Except for one person who understood and was pretty much bang on target on what I was trying to convey and a couple of other's who also nearly got the gist of my post, for the rest all I can comment is that there is a fine line between the lunatic and the fanatic with sanity in between and I was pretty much taken aback by some of the vitriolic responses I got. Please people my point has been completely lost and if you had taken the trouble to read the post properly you would have understood what my angst was about. This is not about taking sides etc and for God's sake this is just a soap opera so no need to get that personal.

I was warned to be cautious over the bi partisan attitudes of the members of this forum but yet I did not heed and thought the forum was more open to discussions but sad to say I was proven wrong and it does sadden me to write that I will think a hundred times before I post anything here. Being a newbie I may have risen points that may have been done to death in the past but it is still no excuse for rude words and replies.

@ For those of you who understood what I was trying to convey and gave your support I thank you for your gesture and admire your strength in persevering to put your points across despite opposition. May you always have that courage in your life!



@Bold: From the posts I have seen from you, you always have well written and clear ideas and your opinions are always interested to read. I hate that you feel like you cannot post anything you truly feel strongly about in this forum but I always love reading people's different perspective of characters and commenting on them, even if I don't agree with what they say ...A healthy debate is always good..Bashing is not.

At the end of the day, we are all watching a drama. We all have different preferences, different backgrounds and come from different cultures so it is clear that not everyone will share the same view.

Please don't be disheartened from what you have seen in this forum.
Hope to see more posts from you soon 😊


Edited by angel_eyez123 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33
@angel_eyez123 Thank you for your nice words and yes i am back with a post😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34
I can't believe another discussion has started on this topic. It's a fiction and they showed Shaym is married, so no point imagining he is not. With the lead they are showing story of a changed man from ASR to Arnav. Just the scene before with LA also proved that he has changed.
Both ASR and Shyam have two women in their lives. But, Shyam is married and ASR is not. Living in girlfriend--NO wadha, no commitment. You can break out of it anytime. That's why in our culture marriage is so important and valued. Getting out of living together is not seen as low as breaking a marriage...why compare these two characters? ASR was something and he is changing into Arnav...they are showing it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post! Fully agree
Splendid job essaying the characters of the show
Keep it up
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
I think the TM did not say that Shyam and Arnav are alike, rather their treatment of Kushi is alike ...

And I have to agree with that - to some extent. Both are extremely uncaring and inconsiderate of KUSHI'S FEELING. While Arnav handles it aggressively, Shyam handles it in a sleazy and sneaky manner. Regardless, both are causing her quite a bit of pain. Before the CVs decided to go on the PayAsh route, the pain Arnav was causing Khushi was bordering on cruelty. What he did with the jewelry set Khushi liked, having her hold it as if it was a gift from him, and then putting it on La; his comment about the outfit, it was plain cruel, no ifs about it. But we loved it - coz we love Barun and we love ASR, and we love a lovestory.

However, cruel is cruel is cruel is cruel. Any which way you slice it. And sometimes we do cruel things to those we love. But that defines us too. I felt with the 'tip' remark, Arnav went OTT. I realize he's trying to push her to admit "it matters" but he really can't do that, can he when he hasn't accepted that it matters to him now. I mean, she actually asked him about what the heck was going on between them right before he announced his engagement, and he just went off on her. And then he stormed off to announce his intent to marry La. So of course it's going to confuse the hell out of her. And when she smiles in the face of adversity, he gets even more mad. So he's hot, then he's cold, he's coming close, then he runs to get engaged, he's looking at her like he wants to devour her, then he's mad at her for asking why, and I can go on ... so he's not sure what he wants, but he wants HER to say it matters. And if she tries to hold her head high with dignity and not confess undying love to an engaged man, and that too with a friend of hers, she has to suffer such heart piercing words as 'I'll gift this to you as a tip' ... I mean, come on. No girl on this forum would have put up with that sentence and not slapped a man right there if they had said that. I can assure you I would've atleast spat in his face. But I'm unladylike :). So I did love Khushi's very dignified response.

But I digress - in conclusion, I agree that Arnav is mistreating Khushi, and causing her similar amounts, not the same type, of pain. Whether he's doing this with the intent of deceiving her, as is the intent of Shyam, or whether he's doing it out of anger and frustration over something he doesn't quite understand himself, is irrelevant.

Mostly, I totally agree with your idea of how the television not only dismisses the idea of how the love stories today show the woman being manhandled, but they actually promote it. This isn't the first, or the last show, that has shown that. But in the TV industry's defense, they do it because we love it. We lap it up as it's dished out. The more he manhandles her, the more we love it, and it's shown in the TRPs that rise. Very very sad.

To those who said that this was an untimely post as the manhandling has stopped - just 2 things:

First, there's never any wrong time to voice an opinion against an act of violence. The earlier the better, yes, but it's never too late.

Second, I believe they stopped showing Arnav's manhandling Khushi because they had to do a sudden track change and get PayAsh incorporated in there. My guess for the track change is that they couldn't possibly go on with the Arnav-Khushi love story any further while having each one engaged to someone else, and do so w/o making either, or both, look like they're cheating. So to keep the dignity and integrity intact of the characters, they had to break the engagement off, atleast for one of them. And the only way to do that was to bring Shyam's truth out in the open.

That's my guess on why the track change happened - we demanded more Arnav-Khushi scenes, and in order to make that happen they had to break one engagement off, or risk making cheaters out of their characters.

But regardless of the reason for the track change, the violent grabbing/shoving of Arnav's took a pause due to the change in the track. Now we're going to enter a new dimension in their love story, if the new year's promos are to be believed. So there should be even less violence, and more romance.

Then when we enter the betrayal, hatred, anger phase again, we'll see if the violence comes back.

Kudos to the TM for having the courage to post your views on this forum knowing how poorly it would be received. I may not have agreed with all that you said, but I respect that you had the clarity and the courage to voice it as you did. And equal respect to those who disagreed in a dignified manner.

👏

-S
Edited by lilmzsunshine - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: lilmzsunshine

I think the TM did not say that Shyam and Arnav are alike, rather their treatment of Kushi is alike ...


And I have to agree with that - to some extent. Both are extremely uncaring and inconsiderate of KUSHI'S FEELING. While Arnav handles it aggressively, Shyam handles it in a sleazy and sneaky manner. Regardless, both are causing her quite a bit of pain. Before the CVs decided to go on the PayAsh route, the pain Arnav was causing Khushi was bordering on cruelty. What he did with the jewelry set Khushi liked, having her hold it as if it was a gift from him, and then putting it on La; his comment about the outfit, it was plain cruel, no ifs about it. But we loved it - coz we love Barun and we love ASR, and we love a lovestory.

However, cruel is cruel is cruel is cruel. Any which way you slice it. And sometimes we do cruel things to those we love. But that defines us too. I felt with the 'tip' remark, Arnav went OTT. I realize he's trying to push her to admit "it matters" but he really can't do that, can he when he hasn't accepted that it matters to him now. I mean, she actually asked him about what the heck was going on between them right before he announced his engagement, and he just went off on her. And then he stormed off to announce his intent to marry La. So of course it's going to confuse the hell out of her. And when she smiles in the face of adversity, he gets even more mad. So he's hot, then he's cold, he's coming close, then he runs to get engaged, he's looking at her like he wants to devour her, then he's mad at her for asking why, and I can go on ... so he's not sure what he wants, but he wants HER to say it matters. And if she tries to hold her head high with dignity and not confess undying love to an engaged man, and that too with a friend of hers, she has to suffer such heart piercing words as 'I'll gift this to you as a tip' ... I mean, come on. No girl on this forum would have put up with that sentence and not slapped a man right there if they had said that. I can assure you I would've atleast spat in his face. But I'm unladylike :). So I did love Khushi's very dignified response.

But I digress - in conclusion, I agree that Arnav is mistreating Khushi, and causing her similar amounts, not the same type, of pain. Whether he's doing this with the intent of deceiving her, as is the intent of Shyam, or whether he's doing it out of anger and frustration over something he doesn't quite understand himself, is irrelevant.

Mostly, I totally agree with your idea of how the television not only dismisses the idea of how the love stories today show the woman being manhandled, but they actually promote it. This isn't the first, or the last show, that has shown that. But in the TV industry's defense, they do it because we love it. We lap it up as it's dished out. The more he manhandles her, the more we love it, and it's shown in the TRPs that rise. Very very sad.

To those who said that this was an untimely post as the manhandling has stopped - just 2 things:

First, there's never any wrong time to voice an opinion against an act of violence. The earlier the better, yes, but it's never too late.

Second, I believe they stopped showing Arnav's manhandling Khushi because they had to do a sudden track change and get PayAsh incorporated in there. My guess for the track change is that they couldn't possibly go on with the Arnav-Khushi love story any further while having each one engaged to someone else, and do so w/o making either, or both, look like they're cheating. So to keep the dignity and integrity intact of the characters, they had to break the engagement off, atleast for one of them. And the only way to do that was to bring Shyam's truth out in the open.

That's my guess on why the track change happened - we demanded more Arnav-Khushi scenes, and in order to make that happen they had to break one engagement off, or risk making cheaters out of their characters.

But regardless of the reason for the track change, the violent grabbing/shoving of Arnav's took a pause due to the change in the track. Now we're going to enter a new dimension in their love story, if the new year's promos are to be believed. So there should be even less violence, and more romance.

Then when we enter the betrayal, hatred, anger phase again, we'll see if the violence comes back.

Kudos to the TM for having the courage to post your views on this forum knowing how poorly it would be received. I may not have agreed with all that you said, but I respect that you had the clarity and the courage to voice it as you did. And equal respect to those who disagreed in a dignified manner.

👏

-S

What a brilliant analysis Lilmiz sunshine.
Thank you for being so articulate and to the point and calling a spade a spade
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The lines in blue were 10/10
Keep it up
I am happy so many are super disgusted and apalled at "Mr Hottie's" antics🤢🤢😡
Good to know 😃
ASR's treatment of Khushi does not deserve drooling or poetry of any kind IMO
Its plain cruel and ruthless, how ever unshaven and sizzling he might look
I am just wondering how a woman would feel in real life to be treated the way ASR treats Khushi
Will it make us squirm or will we turn a blind eye and romanticize it if we see a stubble on the guy's face?
The hurt and pain Khushi must have felt when he said "Tip samajhkar rakh lo" cannot be forgotten by any girl, how ever wealthy and "hot" a guy might be
Even an entire lifetime would not be enough to heal the wounds of such words
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Posted: 13 years ago
#38

What do people consider little bit of dragging, pulling-pushing as manhandling?

OH come on people...please don't tell me you have never done any of this in real life.

The other day I dragged my cousin to watch something on TV. Does that mean I manhandled her ?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Aditee
I am just wondering how a woman would feel in real life to be treated the way ASR treats Khushi

Exactly what I have been thinking after reading all those defensive posts by some of the members.

Agreed that its just a fiction. But their are better ways of portraying fictions. No woman could feel loved by such abusive behavior. She has to be a psycho herself to feel exited and tender for her lover this way. Loving someone or being frustrated towards someone doesn't give them the right to do emotional and physical attayachaar.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiehardBarunFan

Are u noor123 or Mitrashakti ??😆

U definitely sound like.Ok jokes apart..CVs have stopped showing manhandling as we saw in the recent epis.So that was a pretty useless complain.



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