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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunaina02

Fari - wonderful and much needed post .

When I cant get out of mind ASR's face at Khushi's doorstep .
He was angry , he was arrogant but beneath the mask of arrogance he was begging for love .

Thanks Su. I had to write it after the 'Battle of psychoanalysis'. I am glad I finally got it off my chest.

Yes even I can't get it off my mind. It oddly reminded me off the time when ASR landed at her doorstep to get her to train La.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#42
awesome n the best post ever Fari 🤗
mind blowing words for the description of ASR👏👏
loved how you gave reasoning for him not being a sadistic👏👏
excellent post sweetie😳😳
thanks a ton to you😳😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Nadzy 🤗

Originally posted by: NaDzGirl

wonderful post fary baby 🤗


i love to hate ASR and love to love arnav. this man is indeed living a split personality. oh man i just loved da pondering path you took to elaborate about the man behind this iron mask

i haven't met such complexed, outrageously amazing, colorful fictional character in tv or celluloid before & im so amazed by his characteristics which shocks me every night!

one more thing; i wanna kiss mr. sobti if his wife allows me cuz this guy is doing an amazing world class job by portraying ASR & arnav 😍

Yes I would love to do that too. Only if Mrs. Sobti would allow me 😍 Lucky lady!
Not sure if I am in love with Barun or ASR. 😆

thanks

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Posted: 13 years ago
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That's ASR alright! Kudos to you in presenting to everyone the true character of ASR! Couldn't agree with you more on all your points both his strengths and weaknesses!

Barun has evolved immnesly as an actor and has put his heart and soul into the character and made it so believable! Sanaya also has done a marvelous job as khushi. Hats of to the actors that we can drool over a kiss that didn't happen and feel the pain of the two after what followed!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: k_sarala

Good post. Yes he is confusing. He moves aay without explaining yet again he is angry that is no more interestedto know about his feelings. What does he expect. He gets engaged to someone yet crave for someone else.

Well the thing is Sarala, emotionally he is completely detached from La. What he is doing to La might seem unfair but he is not doing it deliberately. Clearly he cares about La. Maybe he does not express it but he does.

Thanks.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: incandescent

This is long post but I encourage you to read it carefully. Please bear with me.


Arnav Singh Raizada, a man who isn't just black or white. He is all the shades of gray. Yes he is the male lead of this show but is he a hero?


This is how dictionary defines a hero

1. A man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

2. A person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal: He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child.

3. The principal male character in a story, play, film, etc.


If we follow definition 1, ASR has certain attributes which will make him fall under this category. He was extremely courageous when he fought those goons to protect Khushi. It was noble of him to pay the hospital bills.

If we follow definition 2, he does not perform heroic acts. He is certainly not regarded as a model or ideal by general people.

If we follow definition 3, he is most certainly the principal male character of this story.


Now let's look at the definition of antihero

A central character in a story, movie, or drama who lacks conventional heroic attributes.


According to Wikipedia

In fiction, an antihero is generally considered to be a protagonist whose character is at least in some regards conspicuously contrary to that of the archetypal hero, and is in some instances its antithesis in which the character is generally useless at being a hero when they're supposed to be one. Some consider the word's meaning to be sufficiently broad as to additionally encompass the antagonist who (in contrast to the archetypal villain) elicits considerable sympathy or admiration.


If we assess the character of ASR, although a hero (according to definition 1 and 3), he falls more into the category of an antihero. The archetypal hero would not drop a girl from his office window; he would rip the strings of her outfit or leave her in middle of the road at night.


But this does not take away from all the good deeds he has done. He did save Khushi from the goons, he did pay the hospitals, he did not take advantage of Khushi (despite being attracted to her) when they were alone.


It is evident that he is head over heels in love with Khushi. He wants to be near her but the moment she comes close he pushes her away. He misbehaves and often manhandles her but the moment he sees her in tears, it breaks his heart into a million pieces. It leaves him shattered.


Now in the usual circumstances, it is expected that people would learn from their past mistakes. But ASR does not. He hurts Khushi and in the process he hurts himself even more. He repents but ends up repeating the same thing. It is a cycle. Why does he do it?


Is this sadistic? NO.

According to dictionary definition, Sadism is to derive pleasure by inflicting pain on others.

ASR hurts Khushi but he does not find pleasure in it. He regrets and suffers more than her.

Is he masochistic? NO.

According to dictionary definition,

1. Masochism is to derive pleasure physical or emotional abuse.

2. The deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from being humiliated or mistreated, either by another or by oneself.

3. A willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences.

Does ASR enjoy his own suffering? He most certainly does not.


So ASR is neither Sadistic nor Masochistic.


Now ASR certainly has some emotional/psychological issues. He has an inability to express his emotions; He cannot be vocal about his feelings or desires. He is unable to enjoy himself at any festivities or events. He is afraid to fall in love or be loved because he has an innate fear of losing his loved ones.


What could be the cause of these issues?


ASR was obviously traumatized when he lost his parents at such a young age. And it is evident from the flashbacks that they died in some tragic circumstances. It left him devastated. On top of that, he was thrown out of his home by his uncle. He had to move in with his nani, mama, mami and cousin. It's true that they love him but could not fill the void created by his parents' death. He had to be the support of his disabled sister who was clearly as distressed as he was. It was a lot to take in at such a delicate age. He probably needed some counseling or therapy to deal with his pain but he must not have got the emotional support he needed at that age.


He had to grow up much faster than he normally would have. He was deprived of the normal adolescence he deserved. He may not have had that many friends because he could not open up to them or worse maybe they could not understand his pain.


He was forced to learn the importance of money and all other harsh realities of life at a very young age. He is a self made man, a business tycoon at the age of 26. He must have started working very hard at a very young age. He may never have had the time or the privilege to hang out with friends or bunk classes at college.


He is a diabetic at an early age. Who knows for how many years he has had this disease. It does not make life any easier.


All these things turned him changed him into a man he may not have become under normal circumstances. From the child hood memories he recalls with his sister, it appears that he was a naughty kid, a prankster. Under normal conditions, he might have enjoyed Khushi's stupid pranks.


It made him cold on the surface but not uncaring on the inside. He feels every emotion but is unable to express it. That is the beauty of his character.


That is the reason I admire this fictional character; because it is complex and true to life. In reality nothing is black or white. it is gray.


Fiction is best when it is closest to reality.


But the character would be incomplete without its marvelous portrayal by an actor. The man, who gives a face to this character, brings him to life.


Barun Sobti, I applaud you for being ASR. 👏 👏 👏

The makers of IPKKND, i applaud you for creating ASR 👏 👏 👏



Sorry for ranting but I had to say it. Please leave your comments.

It's 6:30 am and I haven't slept all night. I will reply when I wake up.


Very well written some people in this forum had began to think that he is a sadist but, I am with you I don't think he is a sadist
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Posted: 13 years ago
#47
Can I just say thank u, thank u for this post cos I agree with every word u wrote and it was hurting me to read post titles such as 'ASR is a sadist' and worse - I didn't hav the heart to go in an read them but what u wrote describes my thoughts on his character. So thanks n I hope those members read it and can gain sum sort of insight too!🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nitashaj83

Thank you for tis...i really enjoyed your writing...I hope that people do understand his character..😉 ASR is scared of falling in love or hurting Khushi...He never shared his feelings with anyone...and has build a wall around himself...I have seen people with similar personality and I can also definitely relate myself to him🤢..lol...btw my sister pointed out those similarities...😆.I can easily understand the feelings and emotions that he felt...He sounds like a true Cancerian😆

Thanks Nitasha.

it's good to know you've met such people and you can relate to him.

Are you a Cancerian ?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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First of all thank you.

Originally posted by: serendipity235

Wonderful post and much needed at this stage of the story.
Can I add a couple of old incidents that have really stuck in my mind cos they beautifully brought out the difference between his inner and outer personas-

There was this episode where Nani ticks off Mami for buying expensive jewelry when there was really no occasion for it. At the end of the scene, there is a brief shot of Arnav entering the room. The next scene Anjali hands over that expensive set to Mami saying Chote had bought it for her!

I thought this was incredibly sweet especially since this was back in the days when he'd do nothing but glower and bark out orders.

I remember all those but intentionally left it out to make it short 😊 But thanks for mentioning it. Some people may need the reminder 😃


The next one, I think it was just after the Teej episode. Shyam is shown in RM for the first time - most of the family is in the kitchen - Mamiji, Mamaji, Akash, Shyam and Anjali. They are all laughing and the camaraderie between them is tangible - its a very sweet family moment. Then Arnav comes down the stairs and stops at the sight..his expression there was just heart rending. He looks really happy to see them all like that, but there's also this look of deep yearning in his face..like, I wish I could fit in with them !

He's kind of an outsider even with his his family!

Yes you are so right. Bang on!

I think that was the moment I was totally hooked - I just HAD to know that this guy was going to be alright.

that's really sweet.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SudsAddict

Wow quite intense!! really wonderful and thought provoking post. Really enjoyed reading it👏👍🏼

on a lighter note since i am bold, so i knocked on ASR's mind and the door was left open...i walked in and all i saw was KHUSHI in the Red Saari and a few other naughty thoughts but all in all you were pretty bang on @incandescent!!!!!

thanks and you are wicked 😆

So what if the man has some naughty thoughts. we all do. 😆

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