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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: cricketfan1

Exactly my point...They both can do whatever they want BUT only after coming clear in front of Lavanya...Right now what they are doing is truly despicable...and I am not liking that the leads of a show are behaving in such a manner...This show is somewhat akin to Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna...where such cheating has been glorified...😕




Yes, they need to first sort things out with La first before proceeding on their own relationship but here La is being used as a shield by one and is being ignored by the other. Yes, both the leads are flawed and that makes it more realisitic. I want them both to repent their actions and apologise to La.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Khushi should just walk away now, her work is done and now she should keep her distance. Arnav is the one who has done Lavanya wrong as he is the one who made a concious decision to announce he is marrying her all while being unable to take his eyes off Khushi. Arnav knew what he was doing and I feel bad for Lavanya when she finds out the truth.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bollywoodcrazed

Khushi should just walk away now, her work is done and now she should keep her distance. Arnav is the one who has done Lavanya wrong as he is the one who made a concious decision to announce he is marrying her all while being unable to take his eyes off Khushi. Arnav knew what he was doing and I feel bad for Lavanya when she finds out the truth.



Yes, Khushi should walk away from Raizada house. I also want her to show some sense of remorse and understanding for La's plight.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

Right from the start of the show, this is the question that plagues our leads.

To Arnav ends justify the means even if the means are unfair. The end may be putting Khushi in her place as it was in the beginning of their interactions or may be to escape love as it is now. His means were never above board whether it was viciously torture and slander Khushi or hurriedly announce his decision to marry Lavanya.


To Khushi means have to justify the ends even if the means are tough. The end may be proving that she can face any challenge as it was in the beginning or finding out what was in Arnav's heart as it was today. Her means were always hard whether it was putting up with the humiliation and hurt Arnav subjected her to or asking probing questions when she knew that his answers would question her conscience.

very well said, once again a very basic character difference, contrast ones 👏👏 their behaviour just fits int he definition of the character 👏


In Arshi's battle the one who is caught in between is poor Lavanya. While Arnav is knowingly using her to rebuild the shield around his heart he has unwittingly let down, Khushi is unknowingly ignoring La's original role in Arnav's life and her own role in La's life in order to reach that well guarded heart. While Arnav is embracing duty in order to escape love, Khushi is embracing love and inadvertently ignoring her duty.

i agree that Arnav embraced duty in order to escape love , he will do it for long time, till the day comes when he is going to loose kushi oh no i am not talking about shyam kushi marriage, but when kushi will leave his life , he will cry foul.
but why do you say kushi embracing love 😲 ignoring duty we know her reaction to marriage, she faked happiness 😭 did her duty .
i agree that even she got carried away in the jaadu hai nasha hai.
but then she did ask questions to Arnav to clear things.
now in her house on the bed if she thinks and comes up with something has a discussion with her devi maiyya then only we can know what is she thinking and say whether is picked love or duty. though i was 😲 when she ignored anjali's question and went to ask question to Arnav not even acknowledging arnjali was it just to fix the precap or did it mean anything in future will kushi ignore anjali for arnav 😕


We know that Arshi's love will pre
vail but should it justify the trampling of emotions of an innocent girl? I hope both come to their senses soon enough before the poor girl builds too many dreams only to have them all shattered.


ASR and blah marriage fixed, shyam waiting in the wing to get married to kushi, how in the world CVs do the turn now to get arhi married. rubbing hand in anticipation . PH have a very good option of creating drama. actually they are under the lense now. They always scored less in my score card when it comes to high intensity drama 😆 lets see this time 😍

about blah, CVs whoever there needs 👏👏 a award, they have defined ASR and kushi so well and sometime we know why they behaved like that . but anjali or blah do not have a defined character as yet. anjali at least we know is almost like her brother 😆 but blah we do not know 😛 so lets see what she does now.
and about blah giving tight slap to ASR. how indeed i would love to see it.
But i am non-violent 😆 need not slap him, but i would love to see her giving one big lecture to ASR about love and emotions and him loving kushi and to go and save her. but my only contention is again it may not happen immediately




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Posted: 13 years ago
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i don't feel sorry for LA...its her mistake that she can't see the reality...if her boyfriend is not into her, always keeps shouting at her...doesn't attend festivities when she request him to, but do attend when some other girl asks him to...she should have realized and stepped aside...

she has her blinders on, just like anjali ...

though ASR and Khushi maybe wrong in what they are feeling (but u cant decide that, can you ? you can never decide who u fall in love with !) but its as much LA's fault, as them...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

Right from the start of the show, this is the question that plagues our leads.

To Arnav ends justify the means even if the means are unfair. The end may be putting Khushi in her place as it was in the beginning of their interactions or may be to escape love as it is now. His means were never above board whether it was viciously torture and slander Khushi or hurriedly announce his decision to marry Lavanya.


To Khushi means have to justify the ends even if the means are tough. The end may be proving that she can face any challenge as it was in the beginning or finding out what was in Arnav's heart as it was today. Her means were always hard whether it was putting up with the humiliation and hurt Arnav subjected her to or asking probing questions when she knew that his answers would question her conscience.


In Arshi's battle the one who is caught in between is poor Lavanya. While Arnav is knowingly using her to rebuild the shield around his heart he has unwittingly let down, Khushi is unknowingly ignoring La's original role in Arnav's life and her own role in La's life in order to reach that well guarded heart. While Arnav is embracing duty in order to escape love, Khushi is embracing love and inadvertently ignoring her duty.


We know that Arshi's love will prevail but should it justify the trampling of emotions of an innocent girl? I hope both come to their senses soon enough before the poor girl builds too many dreams only to have them all shattered.

@OPti...Excellent!!👏
@bold was a splendid line.Very well said.Agree with you, I don't want both of them in their struggle of love, hurt a girl who is genuinely trying so hard to be a part of the family & make a place in ASR's heart.I know La is not in love with ASR...she has a feeling of being in love with the Persona of ASR...which started being as an eyecandy...& due to Khushi the perspective has changed...and now she likes to be with the family to be loved with the family and to have a nameplate of MRS. ASR.She doesn't want to any confrontation or change ASR.She is happy to be a sloppy.But I don't want her to get shattered by the two most important peple of her life.
***Sigh***
Th epi was amazing but very painful.
Ash.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good to see some of my old friends here :) Though I'm not too active a member but seeing some familiar names brings a smile!

I quite agree with you, Opti. Just now went thru a topic of Khushi being used and abused! I think more than Khushi, it's Lavanya who is being used and abused!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Opti: I like your posts, they are really perspective but I have an alternate viewpoint.. Please lend me your ears😃:
Lavanya met Arnav Singh Raizada when he was literally carved out of stone. She never tried to know the man or understand the reasoning behind his personality. She was enthralled by his image like we all are in terms of brooding men. You think you can change them but they don't. She accepted him as he was and that was what ASR wanted.
Khushi Kumari Gupta was not in the picture at all and I dont think ASR would have ever conciously gone behind someone like Khushi. She has a diametrically opposite way of thinking and it would be silly. But ASR started having feelings for Khushi despite of himself. For the first time, his hatred was harming an innocent soul (La has never been innocent. She took on Khushi as her Assistant so that she would put forth no competion to her, she insulted her, got her in to trouble in the office).
The reason ASR was more vicious than he is normally is because he got drawn to Khushi. She makes him feel weak and vulnerable while Laa makes him feel like he's in control. He cannot lose control and we will do whatever it takes to keep away from her. Lavanya has chosen to be a victim, she can opt to leave...
Just my POV, what do you think?
Edited by eternal_maaneet - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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all remarks in this post are assuming that Arnav WILL marry Khushi and dump La... but what if that does not happen 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArHi_4ever

@ Opti: I like your posts, they are really perspective but I have an alternate viewpoint.. Please lend me your ears😃: Thanks and I am all ears or rather eyes!

Lavanya met Arnav Singh Raizada when he was literally carved out of stone. She never tried to know the man or understand the reasoning behind his personality. She was enthralled by his image like we all are in terms of brooding men. You think you can change them but they don't. She accepted him as he was and that was what ASR wanted.
Khushi Kumari Gupta was not in the picture at all and I dont think ASR would have ever conciously gone behind someone like Khushi. She has a diametrically opposite way of thinking and it would be silly. But ASR started having feelings for Khushi despite of himself. For the first time, his hatred was harming an innocent soul (La has never been innocent. She took on Khushi as her Assistant so that she would put forth no competion to her, she insulted her, got her in to trouble in the office).
Yes, she accepted him as he was but that does not mean she is not entitled to have feelings of her own. Khushi made her want more than she thought she did and got her back into ASR's life when she decided to leave. At this juncture if ASR announces that he is marrying her, would it not tantamount to building her hopes? Is that justified when we know he is not going to fulfil that dream? Yes, she was critical of Khushi at the beginning but I dont think she was mean to her. That was Sim and Pam. Calling the police for verification was not right but she came around. Despite Mami's constant poisoning, she has always defended Khushi and been cordial with her.
The reason ASR was more vicious than he is normally is because he got drawn to Khushi. She makes him feel weak and vulnerable while Laa makes him feel like he's in control. He cannot lose control and we will do whatever it takes to keep away from her. Lavanya has chosen to be a victim, she can opt to leave...
I can understand why he was more vicious on Khushi but that doesn't justify his actions either. I wouldn't agree that La had chosen to be a victim. Yes, she stayed on knowing that Arnav had not agreed to marry her but yesterday he was the one who announced he will marry her. It is not right to give some one hopes which in all probability is not going to materialise.
Just my POV, what do you think?

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