JUST A REALITY CHECK (Trust and Truth in Lieu of Lies) .

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akashavani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: vj3072
Vani..truly I don't mind Astha lie ...but don't fool a person.That is more hurtful, don't know how Shlok going to take this matter.

VJ...😊.Agree totally with you.

I too don't mind harmless lies...but not making shlok ..who has trust issues look like a fool...in front of outsiders...Astha now atleast needs to ...tell shlok the truth...as shlok always does accept astha's wishes too...with love.

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akashavani

@akashavani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Sathia007
Vani
Nice Review!!!!

''SHLOK DIDN'T TRUST ASTHA TOO ..cause He knows Biwi well and her Penchant for LIES and Trouble too ..went to enquire Choksi out of concern for her ...and listened to Apsara's words ...even though the only reason was concern for Astha's failure and innocence. .. nothing else as ...She didn't know anything about setting up a Business . ...Small or Big...without A REALITY CHECK...which could lead to myriad financial and Political problems in future ...Especially when they were still not stable in anyway ...and so enquired with Choksi too with concern for Astha's ...Own Safety and Success too ..AS her Responsible Husband ...and ...WHO very confidently told Apsara. ...that Astha would never LIE TO HIM ..and so had left the door open to show Apsara ...Astha's innocence AS PROOF ...while questioning Astha ...to show the Gold Coin ..even though he himself was not Trusting Astha fully ... as Shlok knew Astha's pechant for White Lies or for Good Causes too. But was satisfied with Astha showing him the Gold coins in front of Apsara ...SO THAT ...Apsara will never again use Astha's lies to come BETWEEN ASHLOK in future...AND then Closed the... DOOR ON APSARA'S FACE IN REJECTION .''

I can not support Aastha's impulssive lying, in the same time I hated SHLOK's behaviour with Aastha after listening to Apsara!!! - Why he had to prove to an outsider about his personal relationship/ ?? How could he allow someone to talk against his BIWI to him??? A husband -wife relationship is very personal, No third party should be allowed to interfere, any husband or wife should not discuss about each other to an outsider!!!!!! - I would have been bad with my husband if he would have done this to me!!!!!!!

They should sort out their own issues in a closed door , not in fronmit of others!!!!
I can not approve SHLOK's action!!!!!! It was very humiliating for any wife!!!!
Why Apsara would be allowed to use Aastha's lies to come between ASHLOK - it seemsto me he can not trust himself even!!!!!! SHLOK knows his BIWI very well!!!!!! He does not need to prove anything to others!!!!! He has accepted AAstha the way she is!!!!

''By shutting the door andSaying sorry'' could not be acceptable, He can yell at his wife in closed door and be polite in front of an outsider - This is the normal mannerism!!!

Aastha's lying at that moment to cool him down and to maintain her respect in front of Apsara was acceptable to him for that moment , BUT SHE MUST TELL THE TRUTH TO HER HUSBAND in a quiet time when he would not be in an angry mood or would not be tired afterr coming back from work !!!!!
But making a ''FAKE COIN'' beforehand - to befool hubby was not acceptable!!!!!!
It is reflecting weakness of her character, she was not only concernd about hubby's extreme anger, but also was concerned that he would be upset!!!! He was already going thru a tough time getting rejection one after another!!!!!
She herself must show the reason to hubby for her action!!!!!!!

Aastha is not going to set up a big hotel for what you need experience , big money & man power!!!
Starting a small food stall by the side of the road - you do not need much experience/ man power or money power1!!!!! - Do not we see this type small scale businesses are run often by the house wives when their husbands are facing problems?????
I have seen/ heard about many like that!!!!!

SHLOK should not openly discuss about AAstha's nature even to MB !!! he is exposing Aastha's weakness to an outsider once again!!!! MB could loss his confidence in AaStha very easily!!!!

I could not accept any of their actions in this respect - but this is reality of life - often we act but think later!!!!!!!

SATHIYA. ...😛first of all.Loved your analysis ..Thanks very much . ..Agree .

I am no against astha ...for setting up business on own ..is good actually. ...only against lies now hiding...and outsiders knowing and not shlok himself. ...CAUSE ASTHA in a way is doing what BABA DID ...Good or Bad..doesn't matter ...llwhich is not good for their relationship. ...unless Shlok knowsvand understands and trusts Astha ...which is good.

SHLOK'S MAIN PROBLEM IS TRUST ISSUES and INSECURITIES ..AND EGO ...Deeply ingarained from deprived Childhood ...and recently got the biggest shlok of his life ...THAT BABA BETRAYED HIS TRUST...and now has only . ..His pride and Selfrespect. and needs ..Astha's love and Especially Trust...NOW SHLOK ...is putting. ...ASTHA AND DREAMS ...BEFORE HIMSELF...AS RESPONSIBLE PATIDEV ...SLOWLY ...GOOD.

IN FAITH of ASTHA'S LOVE(as ourselves maybe )...WE are not seeing her LIES ...which are not good at all Sometimes ...SHLOK .WHATEVER HE DOES...GOOD OR BAD...EVEN PUTS HIS LIFE IN DANGER ...FOR ASTHA ...and he left everything for Astha love ...HIS NAME ..FAME ..RICHES...and living with ..CHEAP PEOPLE LIKE APSARA...AND ...HIS OPEN CARE FOR ASTHA ..IS NOT INSULT ...!! SHLOK WAS RIGHT IN ENQUIRY OF CHOKSI...MAYBE NOT RIGHT WITH APSARA...AS WOMAN ...BUT STILLDID SUPPORT BIWI...WHEN BEFORE HE DIDN'T DO IT WITH... ADITI...SO RECTIFYING NOW...slowly .

ASTHA'S TRUE LOVE IS GOOD.., BUT NOT ...ASTHA'S LIES...AND NAIVETY ...which are the main culprit here and HER OWN NEMISES TOO ALWAYS ...which is what always upsets ..., not only SHLOK...but her mother KALINDI TOO...both the persons ..., Who love Astha the most...and cares for her ... safety and ones WHO TELL LIES ARE OK...DON'T CARE ABOUT ASTHA AT ALL...and the problems she creates for herself. ..., with her unnecessary silly instant lies...of the moment ...without thinking of the problems to herself and others too...Especially cause Astha is Naive ...Trusting ...and doesn't use Brains...like she easily trusts others...like...SHLOK.in Hate Fakevperiod ... Baba ...and the Broker of prostitution too...and so definitely needs constant...control...Which SHLOK as her Husband is doing in a NEW CITY and STRANGERS ...GOOD...NOT INSULT..., as he knows Astha lies easily ..WHICH she tells for A GOOD CAUSE BUT does not see the PROBLEM at all ...and so SHLOK had to ask Choksi...who is a Good person himself. .. ..,,SO Shlok confidently asked about Astha.. ALSO SHOWS THAT SHLOK IS TAKING CARE OF ASTHA NOW ...Shlok talks about Astha only to people he thinks really care about her...and never to anyone else...BUT IT IS ASTHA ...who brought.and Manytimes Allows ... THIRD PERSONS between Ashlok in Trust .. ADITI..CHOKSI and OTHERS TOO ..

SHLOK is a private person.. ...but Astha is the one who is Allowing ...ALL AND SUNDRY...to enter the relationship. ...even Sachin. Though child and good too ...who now not only is entering their room ...without permission...BUT also is taking Shlok for granted ...SHLOK not saying anything at all...for Astha's sake..BUT NOT GOOD .But It is SHLOK WHO always told Astha ...not to allow ..A THIRD PARTY ...EVEN KAVYA ...between them BOTH and their RELATIONSHIP...not even Baba too in a way .

BUT Astha is the one who reveals ...their personal relationship openly ...from the first too...if you remember...Ok sometimes She had too WHEN HELP IS NEEDED GOOD ...but it definitely was not Shlok...only Astha... ...EVEN though Shlok told her to use the coin after HIS DEATH...in her concern to help him or do something to improve matters.or Good causev...by asking CHOKSI to HIDE the THE TRUTH from SHLOK...ASTHA HAS INSULTED SHLOK'S CREDIBILITY AND ABILITY IN FRONT OF OUTSIDERS ...AND NOW will make him a FOOL in front of Apsara...IF she hides the truth from Shlok STILL and so In away ...WHEN SHLOK NEEDS HER TRUST ...VERY MUCH ...ESPECIALLY NOW ...UNTILL HE FINDS A JOB .

I TOO ...did not like Shlok asking Astha in front of APSARA...BUT SHLOK...WHO HIMSELF ...knows biwi well HER WHITE LIES ... had confidently told Apsara...WHO NOW KNOWS ...Astha's Lies to SHLOK ... that Astha never lies too him and realised that Apsara is trying to create problems now..SO..had to ask BIWI...in front of APSARA...to show Apsara...WHO is lusting for him ..Which he cannot tell Astha ...as she gets jealous and Upset ...whenever shlok talks too other girls...and create problems now...That Astha is TRUTHFUL...so that next time Apsara will think a 100 times before coming between them...Astha doesn't even have that sense that Apsara is blatantly behind shlok ...and is completely ...overlooking the issue. ..maybe trust Shlok tontake care of it...SHLOK NEVER LIKES ANYONE ...AGAINST ASTHA ...so either supports her ...or tries to Control her ..., WITH LOVE ..,, and EXSASPERATION ..too...WHEREAS ASTHA...is trusting and giving away all their secrets completely to perfect STRANGERS ...BUT hiding the truth from SHLOK ...could be detrimental TO THEM..

ASTHA changing the GOLD COINS ..IS not digestible for me too ...but maybe has ...A valid reasons ...as I have written ...IN SRI'S POST ..Kindly read it ...if you can please ...BUT STILL IT DID SHOW .beforehand thought of hiding it from shlok ...NOT GOOD...it can be taken as deceiving ..TOO NOW.

WHAT IF ...A Perfect Strangers ..Choksi is not good and takes advantage of Astha ...or ...Astha trusts someone like the PROSTITUTE AND GOT SOLD ...Apsara...what if she is stuck in a financial Mess ..in a new city ... WHERE PEOPLE..KILL FOR ...A 100 RS.TOO...OR SELL WOMEN...when even family is cheating them or kill them .. SHLOK IS CARING ABOUT ASTHA...AND SAVING BIWI...WHO IS NAIVE ..ACTS FIRST AND THEN THINKS ABOUT CONSEQUENCES...AND when Astha falls into Problems ...then we will be the ones ...WHO will criticise...THAT SHLOK didn't take care of Astha ..and that ...HE DOESN'T LOVE HER...Neglects her ...when SHLOK had saved ASTHA with his own life TOO...LET HIM BECOME ...A RESPONSIBLE PATIDEV...SLOWLY.

Shlok wanted Astha to be successful in her dreams ...and so was warning her ...about setting up own business. ...which needs hardwork ...day by day...and only if you know...ABC about it ...can you make it work...successfully. ...IT DEPENDS ON ASTHA..Now

I WANT ASHLOK OUT OF THAT LOCALITY ASAP...ASTHA SHOULD DO EVENT MANAGEMENT ...IN A SMALL SCALE... WHICH SHE HAS A DEGREE AND EXPERIENCE IN...TO SUCEED...WHILE SHLOK DOES A JOB..OR BUSINESS TOO...EVEN TOGETHER. .MORE BETTER...LOVE IT.

Sathiya...I definitely agree to your ...pov...about small scale business..mostly depending on own Talent without need of big money ..manpower...most woman do it successfully. ..too...when done from home...and build contacts ..market your product ...sell at the correct price ...or a set up shop..too...legally...is completely OK...even then needs lots of work if wantvto suceed...not easy at all.

SHLOK WAS VERY RIGHT... ..Streetside and Separate business...IS HARD LOSS ..IF U DON'T KNOW BASIC RULES...TALENT IS NOT ENOUGH...many talented people have failed...cause they didn't know...HOW TO MARKET THEIR PRODUCTS OR THEMSELVES TOO.OR KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND. ...or even protect their patents...just some facts...BUT CAN BE A SUCCESS TOO...with complete ...Dedication and Hardwork.

Big business has own problems . ...BUT esp Street side business is not as easy as people think...like astha's food truck...on the roadside because ...for especially hotel eateries...not Legal ...is a 24 hr..day to day ...physical hard work...need lot of stamina first...can't miss oneday too...food needs to be hygenic..fresh ..and tasty...and especially. ..for eateries ..THE PLACE ...is very very important. ...for business to be profitable...IF not full loss...ESPECIALLY HOTELS...big and small...

Another important point is ...no legal aid if NO LICENSE ..on the streetside...there are only jungle rules completely...with people like Apsara...who will create lot of problems which can't be solved legally ...you cannot do business as you like ...if other small already exsisting ones are there...they won't allow your business to work .. they have set rules ...and if you don't follow them...you could be killed even for a 100 Rs too...DO YOU KNOW...even beggars have set rules ...of whom should beg ...when ..where...and how much percent ...you should give to other beggars too...and if you cross ur limit ...severe repercussions await you...ALL STREET SIDE BUSINESS FOLLOW RULES...and the Police ..or Cops ...too harass you like hell ...taking bribes...of one day earnings...when even 100 Rs will make a lot of difference. ...I am only stating only basic facts here...SOME SUCEED...WITH LOTS OF GRIT AND WITS...TOO...ONLY THING IS YOU NEED TO KNOW BASIC RULES FIRST ...AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IT ...THEN OK..IF NOT PROBLEMS GALORE.

Edited by akashavani - 10 years ago

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akashavani

@akashavani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: casweetu1

Vani I m chill...since I m OK with the current track.. 😊
I just want 2 make others chill and understand that v all should stand for and support ashlok and not just shlok and astha alone...
Otherwise that day vil not b far away when due 2 our stupid demands ...bashing and criticism on shlok or astha individual screen space demand ...v ourself vil b responsible to break this adorable and sizzling on screen Jodi ASHLOK... 😉
V should fight 4 them together and not against them... 😊

Casweetu..😛.Agree completely yaar...it is ASHLOK ...we all should root for ...not only shlok or astha.

And everyone definitely has the right to ...express their views ...Absolutely. ..whatever They are .

Everyone is NOT ONLY BASHING ASTHA...FANS BASHED SHLOK TOO ..and everyone in the Cast too...Along with WASEEM TOO. ...trust me ...but Astha's fans see only Astha bashing ...Shlok's fans see only shlok bashing ...BUT what about SHOW ..bashing ..left and right ...BAAR BAAR.EBP.

Bashing characters,ASTHA OR SHLOK ...is being taken personally by fans .as personal comments on Artists...when the cast itself is ok with eachother. ..no one is less believe me ...BUT we all are making it so..EVERYONE.

I personally write about characters. ...as I don't see ..Artists. ..with experience of real life characters. I cant change my views for ...Fans or Artists too...even though ...I know them only from this show ..WONDERFUL CAST AND CREW..., WHOLE THING ...LOVE IT .became completely hooked to it and ...especially. .AVINASH AND SHRENU..WASEEM ...now they are my favourite s..Forever.

THE main point ...that SHLOK'S FANS are getting enraged too...cause it is only Astha's pov...and side of story is being shown ..from months together. ...which is becoming boring now ... really. ..NOTHING AGAINST SHRENU (lovely girl and best artist )...and even now after ...grandly declaring ...Thst SHLOK'S wajood track ...will be shown...it is again Astha's wajood they are showing...People are getting disappointed. ...and even the track is filked with extra characters. ...even though true ...EVERYONE WANTS ONLY ...ASHLOK TOGETHER. .TRUST ME..

IT'S CVS TO BLAME...entirely...but you know ..lthey too have so many problems. ..internally ...but in showing reality...they have bought down A CLASS ACT...TO 3RD CLASS...hopefully the track will change now ...TO THE MAIN LEADS ..AND STORY LINE...AND ASHLOK ...GC ENTRY..could change things..FOR BETTER. iss baar. CHILL GALS...IT IS JUST FRUSTRATION...NOTHING ELSE...Time will pass ...No worries.

Edited by akashavani - 10 years ago

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Tooba Mahir Mukhtar

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Nice analysis Vani! 👏

You explained everything very nicely and simply! 😉

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akashavani

@akashavani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: uma111

Very nice write up . Vani.😛

What Astha did was very wrong this time and going to land in big trouble. About Trust issues between them so far they showed that Shlok never once trusted Astha. They showed Shlok hates lies.

Shlok himself lied to Astha about love and married her broke her love, trust and dreams in one stroke. He did swear on fire and in temple that he never loved her and hate her. He taught only of him , himself and his pain. When did he fallin love with her and where and why.

Even after he said "ILU" he never once side with her. He sided with his father insulted her, blamed her for everything and treatened to Divorce her. Again he, his pain and his father.

Astha forgave all this because her love is unconditional.The CV'S established that one fact very well. Is his love unconditional? Will he tolerate Astha's wrong doings and forgive her? So Far he took Astha and her love for granted. Please don't say we can see love in shlok's eyes. Avi is very excellent actor in playing love scenes. I want to see Shlok in action. So far nothing.
I am just ranting so don't mind.Please.

UMA..HI..😆..no problem you can rant...your points too. ..late so please don't mind.work.(Uma for some answers can you read my other post replies...if u can ...ur wish )...no I don't mind...ur rants at all.

Yeah uma ...shlok's very problem is trust issues and insecurities about not getting his mother's love nd her betrayal of his trust too...but after knowing baba's truth and reality...he left everything for Astha and Aai...and now is slowly trying to redeem himself. ..to them ...by finding his own identity. ...Especially for them ...and ...Shlok gives more importance to ...LOVE and Trust...for which he can give his life...BUT ASTHA'S LOVE IS SLOWLY CHANGING HIM...BUT HER LIES MAY CREATE MUS...AS ALWAYS. .and SHLOKMis trying to protect ASTHA TOO...from problems. ...NOW.

He also lied just like astha ...and trapped her in love...broke her dreams ..sided baba...didn't trust Astha because of HER LIES ITSELF. ...nobody believes compulsive liars in REAL LIFE TOO.believe me ...so he thinks biwi lies and that's why doesn't listen to het ...BUT he definitely LOVES ASTHA...I think from the FIRST.ITSELF.

Uma the off Screen bits of ...segments .Avi and shrenu ...actually told the story...that shlok loved astha but is very angry on her ...just like I wrote...but that astha was not knowing how to deal with shlok's anger and revenge and his possessive and demanding love too,...even though loved her...in one scene ...SHLOK accepts he loves her ...but must avenge baba's insult too...marries her for both reasons...but more out of love that's WHY never leaves her alone ...BUT YES DOESN'T TRUST HER YES...FOR HER LIES...LAND NAIVETY .. ...EVEN NOW .

The Actual story of Shlok is starting now ...by finding identity. ...and also his love for Astha will slowly be shown now...lBUT that may not mean ...Shlok will listen or do whatever Astha says ...but still ...love and trust ...lwill become the basis...IF ASTHA ...DOESN'T SPOIL IT WITH LIES.EBP..Lets see...The track looks interesting ...WITH GC...ENTRY.