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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mailanchi

Aastha seems to be topping the list of hated ppl in EBP now. Sad to see that 😔. CVs need to take care as she is the female lead of the show. I can never hate Aastha bcoz Shrenu is the face of Aastha and I absolutely adore Shrenu. But I am disappointed with CVs for showing the female lead to be a very confused character. It should be either a YES or a NO for divorce from Aastha. She seems to be swinging btwn the two. In front of her mother she keeps saying that she needs a divorce and she kept mum at the court. And today she was found to be saying hamare paas aur koyi raasta bhi nahin hai except waiting for 6 months. Of course raasta hain if she really wants a divorce. She can go back to Kirloskar house and appeal in the high court. From wot is shown I feel it is hooton pe haan and dil main Na for divorce from Aastha. In that case she shud really give the relationship another chance and not act smart by asking for a separate room and all. She shud try to find out wot happened btwn Shlok and Swathi as she is aware of her being present in Shloks past. Of course she can get support from Varad and Vinayak. High time they change the mood of the show.

No offence pls I love EBP and Ashlok whatsoever.😊



YES or NO answer??? That simple?
Love is not about yes and no
Hate is not able yes and no..

and Divorce...heck..its not about yes and no.
And keep in mind..just because she does not want divorce doesnt mean she is willing to cosy in Shlok's bedroom. Its Astha's right to draw the boundaries to where she wants. She wants to be in Agni house...but away from Shlok in a different room...not bad at all.
She is already pinching Shlok by being in different room.

Again..AStha never asked for Divorce...Kalindi wanted divorce and Astha heeded her because he hurt her mother by not following her advice last time.
NA made two very telling dialogues today...AStha will find her answers to that.

A normal fun loving girl doesnt become Jhansi ki rani ...her way of dealing with Shlok is not out in the open...its something she is doing silently.

Byt the way no one is angry with Shlok for being the really confused one? He swings between hate and love ..he swings between innocence and cunningness, he pines for Astha and hurts her next day morning...the guy being confused is okay? The the woman whom he is married to who is dealing with is hot and cold behavior cannot be confused...

Life is not about yes and no..1 and 0...black and white.
There are no such answers darling!

Believe me the same people who are crying hoarse about abuse and AStha not standing up strong etc, tomorrow when Shloks realities come out and he gets all lovey dovey with AStha..the same people will cry that she is the one thats not understanding and not saving the relation.

To me..the way she spoke with her mom today..mature woman to another mature woman...Astha has grown up and has a firm head on her shoulders..and knows what she is doing.
Her meekness from now on will only be a mask.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sg2013

Hi Jia.

Great post.

Agree with you that in normal circumstances if Astha had gone to her mom's home then Ajlok would miss her and do something to bring her back. But Astha needs to be in the Agni mansion, not only to make Shlok open his heart, heal it , become his soulmate but also expose all the other Agni characters and change those who can be redeemed. So the Cvs had to find a way for her to go back there.
My guess is Shlok will still move out with her at some point in this show. What will amke him do that I cannot guess at this time.
They will have their own nest. A concept which is not wrong and which is probably needed in today's india , where husband and wife are equal and live in their won home. This is my POV?


Thanks for liking the post Suchi. Your POV is also nice and possible, we will W&W. Yes, as far as I can see she did make this decision to open up Shlok's heart and know what he actually feels . Why his actions and dialogues don't match? She could see clearly that he has feelings for her at Jungle sequence and fire accident. But he keeps saying he hates her. What is this riddle? she wants to figure it out. That is what I understand about Astha 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: OmaRamdass

I say its normal to be confused where ur heart is involved
People seem to forget what the emotion love can do to ur judgement


yes, she is confused ..Shlok confuses her 😊...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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JIA DEAR, awesome post like always unique way pulling out post in negative to positivity..
Loved it 😉
Can you send me a link of JONEE post ..PM me


Why to give and seek love back my POV taking heritage..and the system saying when love and feeling felt the ego aside and see the bright side as why the indifference in nature one time love the other min hate.. Doesn't these relation getting separated say self ego ruined their relationship..
Is Ashlok anywhere compared to ABHAY and JYOTHI real abuse way..nope..see the bright side.
As in a rush will post more after coming back..in Aastha point of you.
Reposting from my post..written for JONEE.

When feelings of heart meet and beat up ego ruled by brain ..it always need understanding and state of mind to think two ways,
I love EBP and their messages as of India is emotional and traditional and religious where spirituality really lives... We all respect MARRIAGE as an institution and not as a mere play.,We respect our social system, we believe in permanent relationship.,For modern world Marriage is like a relation often treated as a object,material of can say a gadget in present era, not by two hearts and feel for each other and live for each other, after a period of time the mind takes over in own terms and selfish as needs make them greedy to survive day to day life leaving in MU a problem- think of getting replaced. If not one relation than the other. For us every relation is a permanent one and should not be reversed.
In a divorced family the development of kids are disturbed. As parents NONE of the Indians would like that. We being selfish for own pride of our kids will satisfy our egos and balance to give good for kids and see adjustment in relations too which is always of own self ego..but the relation of pride and virtues given by the traditions given by India and many other countries who values sentiments of emotions well we are seeing less rate of divorce and success rate in marriage..at the same time rise of women in different areas same as men showing Strong will power to fight for life and family to show nature of earth way in peace for love.

Loving EBP all ways of giving messages in social system way and relations and our heritage way..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prasai

JIA DEAR, awesome post like always unique way pulling out post in negative to positivity..
Loved it 😉
Can you send me a link of JONEE post ..PM me


Why to give and seek love back my POV taking heritage..and the system saying when love and feeling felt the ego aside and see the bright side as why the indifference in nature one time love the other min hate.. Doesn't these relation getting separated say self ego ruined their relationship..
Is Ashlok anywhere compared to ABHAY and JYOTHI real abuse way..nope..see the bright side.
As in a rush will post more after coming back..in Aastha point of you.
Reposting from my post..written for JONEE.

When feelings of heart meet and beat up ego ruled by brain ..it always need understanding and state of mind to think two ways,
I love EBP and their messages as of India is emotional and traditional and religious where spirituality really lives... We all respect MARRIAGE as an institution and not as a mere play.,We respect our social system, we believe in permanent relationship.,For modern world Marriage is like a relation often treated as a object,material of can say a gadget in present era, not by two hearts and feel for each other and live for each other, after a period of time the mind takes over in own terms and selfish as needs make them greedy to survive day to day life leaving in MU a problem- think of getting replaced. If not one relation than the other. For us every relation is a permanent one and should not be reversed.
In a divorced family the development of kids are disturbed. As parents NONE of the Indians would like that. We being selfish for own pride of our kids will satisfy our egos and balance to give good for kids and see adjustment in relations too which is always of own self ego..but the relation of pride and virtues given by the traditions given by India and many other countries who values sentiments of emotions well we are seeing less rate of divorce and success rate in marriage..at the same time rise of women in different areas same as men showing Strong will power to fight for life and family to show nature of earth way in peace for love.

Loving EBP all ways of giving messages in social system way and relations and our heritage way..


Madhudi, thanks you and nice points of yours on kids from divorced families. Well, I take both positive and negative and then try to decide which one is right! Here Astha had 2 options whether to go with her Mom or to stay back. She could have gone with her Mom and appealed in high court, but she didn't. So, I tried to understand why she took this decision. The answer to her decision was right in front of us from previous episodes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari



YES or NO answer??? That simple?
Love is not about yes and no
Hate is not able yes and no..

and Divorce...heck..its not about yes and no.
And keep in mind..just because she does not want divorce doesnt mean she is willing to cosy in Shlok's bedroom. Its Astha's right to draw the boundaries to where she wants. She wants to be in Agni house...but away from Shlok in a different room...not bad at all.
She is already pinching Shlok by being in different room.

Again..AStha never asked for Divorce...Kalindi wanted divorce and Astha heeded her because he hurt her mother by not following her advice last time.
NA made two very telling dialogues today...AStha will find her answers to that.

A normal fun loving girl doesnt become Jhansi ki rani ...her way of dealing with Shlok is not out in the open...its something she is doing silently.

Byt the way no one is angry with Shlok for being the really confused one? He swings between hate and love ..he swings between innocence and cunningness, he pines for Astha and hurts her next day morning...the guy being confused is okay? The the woman whom he is married to who is dealing with is hot and cold behavior cannot be confused...

Life is not about yes and no..1 and 0...black and white.
There are no such answers darling!

Believe me the same people who are crying hoarse about abuse and AStha not standing up strong etc, tomorrow when Shloks realities come out and he gets all lovey dovey with AStha..the same people will cry that she is the one thats not understanding and not saving the relation.

To me..the way she spoke with her mom today..mature woman to another mature woman...Astha has grown up and has a firm head on her shoulders..and knows what she is doing.
Her meekness from now on will only be a mask.


Bluejalpari pls do not be offended by me. I am as much a fan of EBP as u are and contribute with good as well as not so comments abt the show. By saying YES or No to divorce I did not mean that she has to move away from Shlok and all that. When in earlier posts ppl used to say that Aastha shud move out of this relationship and she was critcised for crying I have always maintained that it is very realistic that she cries as she really loved him and it is not easy to forget him. All I say is Aastha shud now take some steps to find out why Shlok is the way he is now and work on their relationship. She has 6 months now with him and instead of always provoking him with her actions and words she can try to mend the relationship. Agree that she has been really mature in the way she talked to her mom. She shud show he same maturity in dealing with Shlok😊😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mailanchi


Bluejalpari pls do not be offended by me. I am as much a fan of EBP as u are and contribute with good as well as not so comments abt the show. By saying YES or No to divorce I did not mean that she has to move away from Shlok and all that. When in earlier posts ppl used to say that Aastha shud move out of this relationship and she was critcised for crying I have always maintained that it is very realistic that she cries as she really loved him and it is not easy to forget him. All I say is Aastha shud now take some steps to find out why Shlok is the way he is now and work on their relationship. She has 6 months now with him and instead of always provoking him with her actions and words she can try to mend the relationship. Agree that she has been really mature in the way she talked to her mom. She shud show he same maturity in dealing with Shlok😊😊



Hey we are friends buddy.😛.no offences yaar...good to hear different POV...all I was saying is there is no yes or no answer to these questions...and always good to hear ur comments.
Her maturity with Shlok has started by taking control of the relation...SHE is deciding to be in different room. She will draw the boundaries...she is being all goody goody with the one guy whom she knows has control on Shlok..NA. She will do her own manmani in the house ..all the while being goody goody to NA. and fake meek with Shlok.



She has mangalsutra on...not taking it off even if Shlok provokes. On other hand she says Shlok is a stranger..she cant be in same room. So..she is drawing the lines. This time Agnis know that Kalindi is waiting for reason for divorce..it will be in Shlok's best interests to not give it!

I have weathered few relationship storms with relatives and within in laws and family..in fact we all have. The most important thing i learnt is there is no black and white. You can never say with 100 % guarantee that you hate a loved one. And vice versa. So I mean there is no pakka yes or no for divorce..she cant say no to Kalindi..basically she let Judge shut Kalindi ...
She cant say yes to Shlok...that is giving up her abhimaan...in front of Shlok...she chose a midway.

Now like everyone I want to see a fiesty Astha putting people in their place at Agnis...before that she needs to have Shlok on her side. Wo bhi hoga.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: asthak


Madhudi, thanks you and nice points of yours on kids from divorced families. Well, I take both positive and negative and then try to decide which one is right! Here Astha had 2 options whether to go with her Mom or to stay back. She could have gone with her Mom and appealed in high court, but she didn't. So, I tried to understand why she took this decision. The answer to her decision was right in front of us from previous episodes.


the word "smarter and stronger" Astha is 'not' appealing here 😕 but I felt that she went with Shlok to Agni mansion because she 'wants to' go there. She wants to find answers to all those questions about Shlok which are killing her from inside.

AASTHA want to find the answers the words spoken with JUDGE can shlok aacept feelings..this is the second she said she wants shlok to express..the fire and shower scene she asked and in court says she is knows SHLOK has feelings and is hiding them..
Yes LIke JALPARI said which I didn't know a post was done..she has to seek answers staying back at Agni house why the apmaan has been taken so serious for baba and why the feelings shlok is avoiding which she felt..BOTH ASHLOK POV she should seek...As shlok might approach back lovey dovey shown in sbs..but the heart to be talk back the 6 months mission might work..and can surely say the 6month talk will fade away..like said earlier Seperation of couple for ego hurt is childish and selfish living for self..and ASHLOK couple is not abusuve relation..the other couple young who the man is slefish and greedy is the one who shlould seek law..IN NA case as grown old and maturity is there he should be shown path as the principles he has is not for self but to share love in even..a lot more in EBP..now hate covered as newly married couple get trouble to settle back in family..now the true deepen love which is true bond away far from illusion love as character and ego might seek adjustment as passed the tough phase of start of new life..once faced will be ready to face all too when the one is smarter and intellectual to herself or together..here we have good hearts and brain too..what's there missing,,family characters interuptions ..both know how to handle family now..NA he doesn't have any alternative as can't see son hurt ..Shlok framed like that..remaining KALandi possesive love and seeing herself past too much??once Aastha is happy or say now I understand shlok and know somehting in there the emotions of feelings(JASBAAT)all will settle..
In mean time issues like varad Sojal couple ,biggest issue JYOTHI he to balance ..a lot of story with more of society and family conflicts fighting together in different ways..EBP IT is??for all the base is ego and pride balance in any relation..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: asthak

I understand lot of people are thinking that Astha is weak and made a bad decision today by staying back at Agni mansion. I made a post in Jonee's thread, I thought I will share the same as new topic. Why did she take such a decision? let's just put ourselves in her shoes and think why she did it.

Today I want to speak from Astha's POV. Astha was being pulled in all directions whether it is Shlok who is treating her like a toy (his object of attention) and not letting her go, whether it is Kalindi who is being protective, whether it is Anjali, NA or Jyothi. Everybody wanted her to behave and act the way they want her to be. Nobody was trying to understand her POV. I know the word "smarter and stronger" Astha is 'not' appealing here 😕 but I felt that she went with Shlok to Agni mansion because she 'wants to' go there. She wants to find answers to all those questions about Shlok which are killing her from inside. She asked him the same questions at the court too, but he smartly avoided them and gave rhetorical answers. She convinces her mother by saying "Shlok ne maryada nahi langha hain ab tak", that tells how much she trusts him. She believes that he has not crossed his limits till now and will not do so in future. In a way she is right about his not crossing limits, but what is the guarantee that he will not do so in future? such an innocent,gullible, sweet girl she is. She nicely persuaded Kalindi that 6 months will be done easily and if she feels any problem she will come back(I thought I heard something like this). If she wanted to go back, she would have gone back with her Mom right there and then. She understands that her mother is being protective of her but wanter her to let go. Though I am not in favor of how she talked to NA about maan,apmaan blah blah...but she has clearly understood that NA gives importance to apmaan by this time and I guess that where she is going. She does understand that she has to fight against Shlok and Anjali in the house.And in precap too she draws lines to Anjali and thus to Shlok that he is still a stranger to her. Her Love for Shlok is her weakness at this point and she cannot escape it, will she be able to escape it if she goes back to her home(just like @jalpari said yesterday in her post)? She better find those answers by staying in Agni mansion...And last she did not say anything when either NA or Jyothi asked her not to leave the house forever or stay with Shlok.
This is what I felt is her reasoning to stay back, she is a flawed character we all know that and hopelessly in love with her tall,dark, handsome prince.
I still believe that one day will come when she will understand that "she is infact Shlok's weakness" and he cannot stay away from her and then its her game...But will she be able to play mind games with Shlok who is her visible enemy and non-visible enemy NA? ...that has to be seen!😕
My POV, I do not think she took a right decision to stay at Agni mansion, she would have gone with her Mom ; that way Shlok would have had that pinch in his heart of losing her.



Hey Jia

lovely post and anlysis of Aastha... its great we think the same about her need to go back to
Agni house and find answers ...it is necessary for her and for shlok and for the story to move
forward..
in bold:I still believe that one day will come when she will understand that "she is infact Shlok's weakness" and he cannot stay away from her and then its her game...But will she be able to play mind games with Shlok who is her visible enemy and non-visible enemy NA? ...that has to be seen!😕
My POV, I do not think she took a right decision to stay at Agni mansion, she would have gone with her Mom ; that way Shlok would have had that pinch in his heart of losing her.

The fist para in bold in what the upcoming track is going to be about... that aastha is
infact shlok's weakness and she will get many indications as the story moves to know
that he cannot live without her and she is end game for him ... this is what is going to
make her stronger and ensure that she copes with whatever happens in Agni house
from now on...
and yr POV in the second para... i personally think she took the right decision going back, because first of all the judge gave his decision, kalindi is on fiery mode and is all set to
make things more uncomfy for NA/ Anjali and she knows the latter dont like it, that shlok
has already told her that even if she gets a divorce, he will never allow her to leave him... so
the office contract... and so overall; and for the story, her going back is the best.. option
she has to find out the reall shlok and his feelings for her... otherwise she cannot be at
peace with herself...😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jia, wonderful post. I am glad there is Atleast one post here talking about her POV. Astha is definitely flawed but I have no problem with that. Infact that adds to her character. She is behaving exactly like a girl hopeful in love, How would the story progress if Astha was a strong girl and left shlok. This is a serial that needs to run for some time, so it makes complete sense that Astha behaves the way she is behaving now,

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