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asya34

@asya34

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Posted: 7 years ago

#21

Ok so, I love the track you wrote about RuMya, simple, smart and logical. It really doesn't make any sense to make Soumya a NB. If they had just brought her back to play a wronged wife and bahu, I am sure no one would have any problem. But making her a NB just so that she becomes unacceptable so that people would have to accept RuVya is a failure for RuVya in itself. It's a fact and I am sure I will be getting bashed for this statement but truth is truth.
... and I agree a 100%. You do not have to make one character hateful to make the other lovable
The reason has to be justified to be deep enough to make a good person turn grey.

Next, Shivaay being the target for everything. I second you here. Him being the target for each and everything doesn't make much sense every time. If they want the track to focus on Shivaay, make the villains target his family members accordingly and then he can step in and be the wall he is.
Absolutely and that was my point and this is from a Shivvay fan. Seeing his character being made so unreal from the original one is what is making me lose complete interest. There have to be more stories woven into his or it loses its charm

Why do you think I have stopped watching? Because it's too much. I just can't. There's no progress in any characters, especially Rudra. Gauri did progress a lot in the beginning but she's stopped too now. And Everytime they show a group scene it seems like forced because audience wanted it, so they just gave a big hug and stood in the line with hands held together. Ho gaya SS. :/

No! We want a story with the SS.

I'm really done here.

Bye.

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Hriju321

@Hriju321

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Posted: 7 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: asya34

It would have been great if the writer's could execute the tracks PROPERLY. The three sisters targeting the three brothers: Shivaay by Tia but unfortunately Annika and Dushyant came in the way. Svetlana targeting Om by working on Om's weakness- his mother and the relationship with his father. This was going on fine with Svetlana coming in between Tej and Jhanvi. The more Jhanvi was tortured more hurt was Om. This track had potential but they ruined it with ice boxes,masks,fakelanas,crocodiles and snakes and skates! Gauri coming into Om's life in this junction and picking up his pieces and then them working together to understand the modus operandi of Svetlana would have been so much better.

As for Rudra I have already outlined what could have been executed.

Shivaay being the wall and overcoming one nafratbaaz and then Shivika working to protect the Oberois and understanding the greater picture- Kya Kya sapna dekhe the 😕

Edited by Hriju321 - 7 years ago

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Santhi_Priya21

@Santhi_Priya21

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Posted: 7 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: ShivaayAnika

My problem with the writers since a long time has been execution of tracks. They start off with a bang but then they completely fizzle out later on.
The last track which I think had a proper closure and even execution throughout was Pinky's OMM and Shivika's reunion even though I know many people were disappointed with the whole separation phase. I think after that they kind of lost the plot in general. They tried well with vanvaas but again it turned pointless when instead of giving OmRu's characters some responsibility they made them totally dependent on Shivaay and turned whole Shivika vanvaas into group vanvaas. Thats also when their trps tanked.
The problem what I believe is that 1) they are unable to manage all the characters and would rather write pointless group scenes to give equal SS and 2) the fear of trps or audience reaction in general is making them change tracks left and right. Why is this happening? Cant they properly execute one track without fear of trps.
As for the current track am genuinely excited and also interested in it. I also think they can utilize all characters to checkmate all their enemies and the final confrontation/exposure can make for one hell of a conclusion. But dil se praying that they dont ruin this also 😆

Bang on. Agree with everything you said. Many agree or not in this forum but the core main loyal audience are Shivika fan base, they're the face and soul of the show. During initial days of merger instead of introducing the characters supporting them, organically building the relationships b/w them, they are busy promoting "hum sath hain tho bath hain nonsense making them clone of Shivvaay or Annika , female version of Shivaay plotting and planning from their reunion track to their SR, They've made Shivika dumb especially Annika in this process. Hell they spoilt the scene where Annika was proudly announcing ASO for the first time with this group chant. Since then the makers have lost it completely, Pia track tho final nail in the coffin. That track beats worsts out of all in the IB history. I can take any day the villainbaaaz over that groupbaaaz crap. One of the reason too many Villians in introduced in Vanvass track , is they actually planned to have a separate drama in OM w/ Tejvi, Tia along with Veer in Goa. That failed so they started high school musical again changing the track until they got a blow of the low TRP. Now all back to the OM, surprisingly Veer objective changed from Annika to "bigger motive as he traveled from Goa to Mumbai, reason..? Well to make it again family revenge, cooking another kichdi. May be his chacha or chachi died along NB family in KM raaz..phewww. Writing and execution both are failing with the burden of groupbaaaz.Only hope is now if "NM/SC can pull off the same way as they did in ML track, this track can't be saved.

Edited by Santhi_Priya21 - 7 years ago

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yellomellow

@yellomellow

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#24

Some very valid points especially about Saumya. This is the silliest flip we've seen on the show. Completely nonsensical and unnecessary. Saumya was running around bus stops in India trying to find Rudra's love, but now she is burning wedding cards? My parents think it's all an act and she is helping Shivika undercover, but I don't have the heart to tell them that Saumya is really evil now 😆It's obvious that CVS want Bhavya as the end-game so why bring Saumya back? Why show flashbacks of the Rumya wedding? Why turn Saumya into a hateful evil vamp when she could be furthering her education in Australia. If the CVS wanted her back for drama then why not keep the nice Sumo and create a proper love triangle?

Or like you said made Saumya the 3rd sister from the start without all the ridiculous inconsistencies. An actual grey FL that married Rudra to destroy his family, but her heart melts along the way. The reveal would be dramatic and the families reaction would be TRP gold.

The senior Oberois are a mystery. In the beginning, it was shown Tej and Shakti committed a horrible sin (and obviously committed more crimes to hide their original sin). Who knows if it's the raaz behind the KM fire or something completely different that the CVS scrapped along the way. Either way, both brothers were equally guilty and benefited from whatever they did. Shakti showed remorse, but to me it was never genuine because he continued to hide it. If he was so tortured he would have done the right thing, but he never did all these years. His pious act never worked on me. I think it's possible he might be even worse than Tej, but Tej gets the villain card because he is more upfront with his evil deeds 😆

Then later Pinky goes completely crazy and kidnaps her own son. Meanwhile, Jhanvi completely losses her mind and what little common sense she had in DBO. Turns out that Jhanvi and Pinky also apart of the KM raaz (secret behind the secret). Daadi and Shakti also have a secret that they were hiding from everyone that had to do with Shivaay. So many secrets and grey characters, but sadly the writers never explore anything.

I never understood why their parents weren't attacked. Svetlana's trap for Tejvi doesn't count because that was a joke. Honestly, the parent don't really care about ShivOmRu so it's not like they would care if something happened to them. It would be more interesting to see their hidden secrets come to light and having ShivOmRu deal with the ramifications. CVS have no interest in internal conflicts and prefer random vamps/villains 😆

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: Hriju321

It would have been great if the writer's could execute the tracks PROPERLY. The three sisters targeting the three brothers: Shivaay by Tia but unfortunately Annika and Dushyant came in the way. Svetlana targeting Om by working on Om's weakness- his mother and the relationship with his father. This was going on fine with Svetlana coming in between Tej and Jhanvi. The more Jhanvi was tortured more hurt was Om. This track had potential but they ruined it with ice boxes,masks,fakelanas,crocodiles and snakes and skates! Gauri coming into Om's life in this junction and picking up his pieces and then them working together to understand the modus operandi of Svetlana would have been so much better.
As for Rudra I have already outlined what could have been executed.
Shivaay being the wall and overcoming one nafratbaaz and then Shivika working to protect the Oberois and understanding the greater picture- Kya Kya sapna dekhe the😕

yep and that is all we are left with now 'Sapney' in the form of FF's from all the writers from all the fandoms on the forum and a bad taste in the mouth from being dished out crap everyday

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: yellomellow
Some very valid points especially about Saumya. This is the silliest flip we've seen on the show. Completely nonsensical and unnecessary. Saumya was running around bus stops in India trying to find Rudra's love, but now she is burning wedding cards? My parents think it's all an act and she is helping Shivika undercover, but I don't have the heart to tell them that Saumya is really evil now 😆It's obvious that CVS want Bhavya as the end-game so why bring Saumya back? Why show flashbacks of the Rumya wedding? Why turn Saumya into a hateful evil vamp when she could be furthering her education in Australia. If the CVS wanted her back for drama then why not keep the nice Sumo and create a proper love triangle?
Yep. Illogical as ever. And to justify the flip they just conveniently turned her into a NB.
I had and have no issues with Saumya being grey. Infact I did root for her being grey in the beginning and was shot down for wanting that. But that happens all the time anyways and frankly I am beyond caring at this stage
A FL being grey is a beautiful thing I feel. You can relate to the character most times as we all have shades of grey in us and that does not make us evil people. Just normal ones.
What I do not care for is turning her hate into the NB hate for the Oberoi's. Why could she not have a past and story of her own that connected her to the Oberoi's and seeking revenge from them?
Why does she HAVE TO BE a NB?

Or like you said made Saumya the 3rd sister from the start without all the ridiculous inconsistencies. An actual grey FL that married Rudra to destroy his family, but her heart melts along the way. The reveal would be dramatic and the families reaction would be TRP gold.

The senior Oberois are a mystery. In the beginning, it was shown Tej and Shakti committed a horrible sin (and obviously committed more crimes to hide their original sin). Who knows if it's the raaz behind the KM fire or something completely different that the CVS scrapped along the way. Either way, both brothers were equally guilty and benefited from whatever they did. Shakti showed remorse, but to me it was never genuine because he continued to hide it. If he was so tortured he would have done the right thing, but he never did all these years. His pious act never worked on me. I think it's possible he might be even worse than Tej, but Tej gets the villain card because he is more upfront with his evil deeds 😆

Then later Pinky goes completely crazy and kidnaps her own son. Meanwhile, Jhanvi completely losses her mind and what little common sense she had in DBO. Turns out that Jhanvi and Pinky also apart of the KM raaz (secret behind the secret). Daadi and Shakti also have a secret that they were hiding from everyone that had to do with Shivaay. So many secrets and grey characters, but sadly the writers never explore anything.

I never understood why their parents weren't attacked. Svetlana's trap for Tejvi doesn't count because that was a joke. Honestly, the parent don't really care about ShivOmRu so it's not like they would care if something happened to them. It would be more interesting to see their hidden secrets come to light and having ShivOmRu deal with the ramifications. CVS have no interest in internal conflicts and prefer random vamps/villains 😆

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sky-if

@sky-if

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

#27

Sigh. Your post and the responses reiterates that the story and the characters have now reached the land-of-no-return!

So after skips and FFs through the Pia and Tanya tracks (still trying to decipher what the purpose of those were), I was looking forward to the much-awaited, much-touted Vanvaas track .. but what we got instead has my head reeling:

* Tej, who supposedly held the Oberoi empire together, was being led along by Tia who was acting like she was blind and was miraculously TejVi's fav child!

* Veer, who could have played a powerful business rival to Shivaay ,was busy obsessing about Annika and creeping the audience with his CC TV cameras and ways to prove Annika mad

* Om, who always stood up for what is right, became mute

* Rudy, whose 'coming of age' this track was tailor made for, became even more of a split personality - the loving OBro on one side and the shallow life partner on the other - both to Sumo and Bhavya

* To top it all is the return of Sumo as an NB sister [can't agree more about your points on why this is the most ridiculous flip ever]

The other major let down in this track has been the morphing of the OBahus and to-be-OBahu into helpless souls who have nothing to say or do - these were all extremely strong women to start with! Annika, who single-handedly brought Saahil up, was busy trying to become a "GL" and failing fantastically at that!

But the best is yet to come

* Svet had a raaz that started the vanvaas by the end of which wasn't a raaz at all but nothing to worry - instead Tia, who flipped yet again, knows more about the raaz and Annika's past!

Edited by sky-if - 7 years ago

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yellomellow

@yellomellow

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: asya34

Yep. Illogical as ever. And to justify the flip they just conveniently turned her into a NB.
I had and have no issues with Saumya being grey. Infact I did root for her being grey in the beginning and was shot down for wanting that. But that happens all the time anyways and frankly I am beyond caring at this stage
A FL being grey is a beautiful thing I feel. You can relate to the character most times as we all have shades of grey in us and that does not make us evil people. Just normal ones.
What I do not care for is turning her hate into the NB hate for the Oberoi's. Why could she not have a past and story of her own that connected her to the Oberoi's and seeking revenge from them?
Why does she HAVE TO BE a NB?

A grey FL would have been interesting.

I have no idea why the CVS made her the 3rd sister, but I think it's so that she isn't an option for Rudra. That's why I don't understand why she was brought back in the first place and now we have another Oberoi plotting behind the scenes other than Tej (and Pinky) we don't know about. CVS always link all the villains together that's new lol.

Edited by yellomellow - 7 years ago

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#29

Sigh. Your post and the responses reiterates that the story and the characters have now reached the land-of-no-return!

* Tej, who supposedly held the Oberoi empire together, was being led along by Tia who was acting like she was blind and was miraculously TejVi's fav child!

* Veer, who could have played a powerful business rival to Shivaay ,was busy obsessing about Annika and creeping the audience with his CC TV cameras and ways to prove Annika mad

* Om, who always stood up for what is right, became mute

* Rudy, whose 'coming of age' this track was tailor made for, became even more of a split personality - the loving OBro on one side and the shallow life partner on the other - both to Sumo and Bhavya

* To top it all is the return of Sumo as an NB sister [can't agree more about your points on why this is the most ridiculous flip ever]

But the best is yet to come

* Svet had a raaz that started the vanvaas by the end of which wasn't a raaz at all but nothing to worry - instead Tia, who flipped yet again, knows more about the raaz and Annika's past!

Haha .. my reaction to her admitting she was not sure what the Raaz was but there was one that involved the Oberoi's was just like yours was here ...

I was like"What the heck HAVE you been seeking revenge for then..!??"

Svet and her reason for revenge was the only constant thing in IB from the NB side. The writer made a joke of that as well.
This is like being upset for the pizza delivery that went wrong because the pizza was not made right! What is not right about the Pizza you don't know for sure but you just know it is not right
So now you blame everyone - right from the cook, manager, order taker to the delivery man 🤣 🤣

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asya34

@asya34

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: yellomellow

A grey FL would have been interesting.
Ooohhh! absolutely and I was so hoping Saumya would have been that FL because I see the potential for the actress to pull off that role. It would have been such a pleasure to watch the pain and conflict they showed her feel during their marriage track. If they had explored that it would have been way better than this crap they are pulling here

I have no idea why the CVS made her the 3rd sister, but I think it's so that she isn't an option for Rudra. That's why I don't understand why she was brought back in the first place and now we have another Oberoi plotting behind the scenes other than Tej (and Pinky) we don't know about. CVS always link all the villains together that's new lol.
It was to make fun of all of us who were upset that she did not get a proper closure. You know Gul and her ego by now. Anything to dis her audience and their rants/complaints or criticisms 😆

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